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Re: Smart ranked #65 in the League
« Reply #45 on: September 12, 2017, 11:46:06 PM »

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Wow what a dumb list. #65 is high for Smart but I do think he's top 100. He's far from the most overrated player on that list.

Re: Smart ranked #65 in the League
« Reply #46 on: September 13, 2017, 12:21:56 AM »

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Is offense a factor in determining these rankings?

Re: Smart ranked #65 in the League
« Reply #47 on: September 13, 2017, 02:31:14 AM »

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 According to ESPN.

#61 Avery Bradley
#63 Lonzo Ball
#64 Carmelo
#65 Smart
#66 Batum

 Not a perfect list, but hey I'll take our super sub Utility knife as a top 65 player in basketball.

I think that somebody at ESPN didn't take on their drug testing duties this year.

Re: Smart ranked #65 in the League
« Reply #48 on: September 13, 2017, 07:39:58 AM »

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The list was already pretty horrible to start.

Then they put Melo at 64 and lost all credibility in one shot.
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Re: Smart ranked #65 in the League
« Reply #49 on: September 13, 2017, 08:00:46 AM »

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That list is pretty silly and is rooted more in opinion that basketball stats.  Oh wait, that is pretty much ESPN in a nutshell.

Re: Smart ranked #65 in the League
« Reply #50 on: September 13, 2017, 09:00:21 AM »

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Re: Smart ranked #65 in the League
« Reply #51 on: September 13, 2017, 09:08:19 AM »

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I'm not sure he's even #3 on the Kings

DeArron Fox, Skal Labisierre, Willy Cauley Stein, Buddy Hield

If Smart was traded for any of them straight up I don't think I'd be too worried or nervous, money issues aside.

You're right. If we were playing a game tomorrow, Smart might be No. 1 on the Kings, probably No. 2 behind George Hill (if he's healthy).

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« Reply #52 on: September 13, 2017, 09:12:41 AM »

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I'm not sure he's even #3 on the Kings

DeArron Fox, Skal Labisierre, Willy Cauley Stein, Buddy Hield

If Smart was traded for any of them straight up I don't think I'd be too worried or nervous, money issues aside.

You're right. If we were playing a game tomorrow, Smart might be No. 1 on the Kings, probably No. 2 behind George Hill (if he's healthy).
I forgot George Hill. That makes him 5th. I had to think about Justin Jackson for a minute

Re: Smart ranked #65 in the League
« Reply #53 on: September 13, 2017, 11:03:47 AM »

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This would place Marcus as an elite third man on a roster, if teams were distributed evenly. It seems quite high to me.

What's particularly weird to me is, if we assume that the rankings take an average of various panelists, that means that some probably ranked Marcus significantly higher than 65th. I'd love to hear how people came to that conclusion.

There are enough teams where he would be the 3rd guy, and some even maybe 2 on the really bad teams like the Nets, Kings etc. 

These rankings do seem a little wacky though.
I'm not sure he's even #3 on the Kings

DeArron Fox, Skal Labisierre, Willy Cauley Stein, Buddy Hield

If Smart was traded for any of them straight up I don't think I'd be too worried or nervous, money issues aside.
The list is based off how good these guys are right now though, not in the future. If the league ended after this year and we traded Smart for any of them, I’d be pretty p---ed.
that isn't exactly right.

We asked, "Which player will be better in 2017-18?" To decide, voters had to consider both the quality and the quantity of each player's contributions to his team's ability to win games.
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« Reply #54 on: September 13, 2017, 11:18:54 AM »

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I'm not sure he's even #3 on the Kings

DeArron Fox, Skal Labisierre, Willy Cauley Stein, Buddy Hield

If Smart was traded for any of them straight up I don't think I'd be too worried or nervous, money issues aside.

You're right. If we were playing a game tomorrow, Smart might be No. 1 on the Kings, probably No. 2 behind George Hill (if he's healthy).
I forgot George Hill. That makes him 5th. I had to think about Justin Jackson for a minute

He's dropping off but Z-Bo's also on the Kings now. If the trial goes well at least.

Re: Smart ranked #65 in the League
« Reply #55 on: September 13, 2017, 11:40:16 AM »

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 According to ESPN.

#61 Avery Bradley
#63 Lonzo Ball
#64 Carmelo
#65 Smart
#66 Batum

 Not a perfect list, but hey I'll take our super sub Utility knife as a top 65 player in basketball.



First of all look at the source ESPN, and then realize at times a sports writer has absolutely nothing of value to say, and then goes about demonstrating it, all for the simple reason of, that's his job.

Re: Smart ranked #65 in the League
« Reply #56 on: September 13, 2017, 01:02:05 PM »

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This would place Marcus as an elite third man on a roster, if teams were distributed evenly. It seems quite high to me.

What's particularly weird to me is, if we assume that the rankings take an average of various panelists, that means that some probably ranked Marcus significantly higher than 65th. I'd love to hear how people came to that conclusion.

There are enough teams where he would be the 3rd guy, and some even maybe 2 on the really bad teams like the Nets, Kings etc. 

These rankings do seem a little wacky though.
I'm not sure he's even #3 on the Kings

DeArron Fox, Skal Labisierre, Willy Cauley Stein, Buddy Hield

If Smart was traded for any of them straight up I don't think I'd be too worried or nervous, money issues aside.
The list is based off how good these guys are right now though, not in the future. If the league ended after this year and we traded Smart for any of them, I’d be pretty p---ed.
that isn't exactly right.

We asked, "Which player will be better in 2017-18?" To decide, voters had to consider both the quality and the quantity of each player's contributions to his team's ability to win games.
So I’m exactly right...

They’re only rating guys on how they will do this upcoming year. Would you be happy if we traded 1 year of Smart for 1 year of Fox, WCS, Buddy Hield, Lab, or Justin Jackson?? I know I wouldn’t.
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Re: Smart ranked #65 in the League
« Reply #57 on: September 13, 2017, 01:09:29 PM »

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This would place Marcus as an elite third man on a roster, if teams were distributed evenly. It seems quite high to me.

What's particularly weird to me is, if we assume that the rankings take an average of various panelists, that means that some probably ranked Marcus significantly higher than 65th. I'd love to hear how people came to that conclusion.

There are enough teams where he would be the 3rd guy, and some even maybe 2 on the really bad teams like the Nets, Kings etc. 

These rankings do seem a little wacky though.
I'm not sure he's even #3 on the Kings

DeArron Fox, Skal Labisierre, Willy Cauley Stein, Buddy Hield

If Smart was traded for any of them straight up I don't think I'd be too worried or nervous, money issues aside.
The list is based off how good these guys are right now though, not in the future. If the league ended after this year and we traded Smart for any of them, I’d be pretty p---ed.
that isn't exactly right.

We asked, "Which player will be better in 2017-18?" To decide, voters had to consider both the quality and the quantity of each player's contributions to his team's ability to win games.
So I’m exactly right...

They’re only rating guys on how they will do this upcoming year. Would you be happy if we traded 1 year of Smart for 1 year of Fox, WCS, Buddy Hield, Lab, or Justin Jackson?? I know I wouldn’t.
it is more how they will perform not how good they are if you look at how they define better.  "quality and the quantity of each player's contributions to his team's ability to win games". 

Smart should be pretty highly ranked based on that criteria as he is pretty valuable to wins and losses and will have plenty of minutes and opportunity.  It doesn't mean Smart is better than some of the players he is ahead of though. 
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Re: Smart ranked #65 in the League
« Reply #58 on: September 13, 2017, 01:10:45 PM »

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Smart is a coaches player and fan favorite . There is not a team in the NBA that would not want him on their squad. Very few players do what he does as well.  Cause his team to win games without scoring.

Re: Smart ranked #65 in the League
« Reply #59 on: September 13, 2017, 01:13:09 PM »

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ESPN ranked crowder higher than Horford...