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Smart ranked #65 in the League
« on: September 12, 2017, 02:44:25 PM »

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 According to ESPN.

#61 Avery Bradley
#63 Lonzo Ball
#64 Carmelo
#65 Smart
#66 Batum

 Not a perfect list, but hey I'll take our super sub Utility knife as a top 65 player in basketball.

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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2017, 02:51:33 PM »

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I don't understand how he's in the same range as Bradley.  I see them as roughly-equivalent defenders - both are good, though both are a bit overrated on this site.  But Bradley is a MUCH better offensive player.  It isn't even a contest.

I'd buy Bradley being around #60.  That makes sense to me.  But I'm honestly surprised Smart is in the top 100.

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« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2017, 02:55:35 PM »

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I don't understand how he's in the same range as Bradley.  I see them as roughly-equivalent defenders - both are good, though both are a bit overrated on this site.  But Bradley is a MUCH better offensive player.  It isn't even a contest.

I'd buy Bradley being around #60.  That makes sense to me.  But I'm honestly surprised Smart is in the top 100.
How much value can really be put into a list that ranks Lonzo Ball at #63 when he hasn't played a professional game yet?  that would mean that in a 30 team league, if each team's roster was cleared out and they all had a chance to repick players, Lonzo would be picked in the 3rd round over hundreds of veteran players.  I can't see that happening by any GM not named Sam Hinkie.

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« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2017, 02:58:18 PM »

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I don't understand how he's in the same range as Bradley.  I see them as roughly-equivalent defenders - both are good, though both are a bit overrated on this site.  But Bradley is a MUCH better offensive player.  It isn't even a contest.

I'd buy Bradley being around #60.  That makes sense to me.  But I'm honestly surprised Smart is in the top 100.
How much value can really be put into a list that ranks Lonzo Ball at #63 when he hasn't played a professional game yet?  that would mean that in a 30 team league, if each team's roster was cleared out and they all had a chance to repick players, Lonzo would be picked in the 3rd round over hundreds of veteran players.  I can't see that happening by any GM not named Sam Hinkie.

Granted. 

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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2017, 03:03:00 PM »

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Ball didn't even play a single game yet and he's already on top of Melo...joke

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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2017, 03:15:25 PM »

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 According to ESPN.

#61 Avery Bradley
#63 Lonzo Ball
#64 Carmelo
#65 Smart
#66 Batum

 Not a perfect list, but hey I'll take our super sub Utility knife as a top 65 player in basketball.

Who's #62?
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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2017, 03:20:31 PM »

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This list makes no sense. They have Dion Waiters and Ginobli ranked the same. I love Ginobli but he is a shell of what he was and can play about 15 minutes a night...

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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2017, 03:24:40 PM »

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Way too high for Ball and Smart, way too low for Melo and Batum. This list is suppose to be the top 100 players in the NBA right now. It looks like whoever made the list also took potential into consideration.
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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2017, 03:25:24 PM »

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 According to ESPN.

#61 Avery Bradley
#63 Lonzo Ball
#64 Carmelo
#65 Smart
#66 Batum

 Not a perfect list, but hey I'll take our super sub Utility knife as a top 65 player in basketball.

Who's #62?
Eric Gordon
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Kemba Walker / Tyus Jones / Aaron Brooks
Jimmy Butler / Jamal Crawford / Treveon Graham
Rodney Hood / Nic Batum / Marcus Georges Hunt
Taj Gibson / Nemanja Bjelica / Jonas Jerebko
KAT / Derrick Favors / Cole Aldrich
Picks - 2018 CHA 1st (Lotto protected), none out

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« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2017, 03:34:06 PM »

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I like Smart, but he's not better than Nic Batum.

I'd only want him in utility role where any offense he provides is a bonus.

Defense typically gets underrated when evaluating players, but this seems like too high a ranking to me.
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This list makes no sense. They have Dion Waiters and Ginobli ranked the same. I love Ginobli but he is a shell of what he was and can play about 15 minutes a night...

I have a feeling this is based on RPM ....
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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2017, 03:40:00 PM »

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A ranking of #65 means he's supposed to be a #3 on a team in a league with 30 of them. He's our sixth man. It definitely doesn't add up. Now, if he starred shooting 45% from the field, 35% from 3...
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« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2017, 03:44:47 PM »

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LOL, Lonzo over Melo ?? This list is insanely bad.

I wouldn't even rank Lonzo ahead of Nic Batum, and it's not close.

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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2017, 03:50:45 PM »

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On the Lonzo Ball debate,  I have no problem with a rookie being ranked that high, but Fultz is #86 and Ben Simmons is #84 (and was ranked #120 last year), Dennis Smith Jr is #75.

To be fair though, the list is supposed to only be about who will perform best in the 2018 season only, and Lonzo seemingly has full control of the reigns in LA and may have a better opportunity to put up better stats than others.  Still think it's too high for Lonzo though.

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« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2017, 03:52:26 PM »

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The rankings are stupid, they're always stupid, they're almost intentionally stupid for the purposes of generating the attention+discussion content providers feed on. This is not news.

That said, what this indicates isn't that Smart IS the #63 player in the league, but that the voter panel collectively CONSIDERS him #63. Right or wrong, by a little or a lot, that shows that Marcus is highly respected among people who follow the league. Look at it from that perspective and it's a great compliment to one of the hardest working, toughest guys to wear green in recent years.