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Re: Kyrie's first game - how many?
« Reply #60 on: September 18, 2017, 09:27:55 AM »

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Re: Kyrie's first game - how many?
« Reply #61 on: September 18, 2017, 09:54:02 AM »

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Re: Kyrie's first game - how many?
« Reply #62 on: September 18, 2017, 10:50:02 AM »

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Re: Kyrie's first game - how many?
« Reply #63 on: September 18, 2017, 11:58:18 AM »

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First, who cares about how many points he scores if we still lose, and second, I think the more amusing question is, "Kyrie's first game - how many assists?" Lol.  Hopefully he'll break even on the old assist-to-turnover ratio ::).

AST:TO ratios over the past two seasons:
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Kyrie Irving: 2.19
Isaiah Thomas: 2.20
Marcus Smart: 2.30

Man, our offense is going to suffer SO dramatically with Kyrie as our PG...

Fair enough.  Thomas and Smart don't dribble the air out of the ball, though :-\.

Thomas doesn't?  Funny, because when we initially traded for him, all I recall reading on this forum was comments about how much people didn't want him because he's a black hole, a chucker and a ball stopper...who does exactly that!

As for Smart, well no...he doesn't dribble the air out of the ball.  But that's just because he is one of the worst ball handling point guards I've ever laid my eyes on in the history of professional basketball.  No seriously, I legitimately think that Al Horford is a better passer AND ball handler then Marcus Smart! :P

While I do think that IT was a ball hog, I don't believe that he's nearly in Kyrie's class in that respect.  Plus, unlike Irving, Thomas can actually play off the ball, whereas Kyrie will routinely dribble out the clock in isolation situations, which, admittedly, sometimes works, but most of the time simply does not.  In that respect they're completely different players, offensively.

As for Smart, well, yeah...I figured that that was pretty self explanatory :laugh:. Between him and Rozier in terms of decision making, well, no wonder Ainge is looking at Bogut, lol.  Come to think of it, with Rozier and Tatum on the second unit - yikes.  Our bench might have more black holes than a documentary/special narrated by Neil deGrasse Tyson :laugh:.

He scored 25 a game last year playing with Lebron James.  Who did IT play with last year who had a usage rate above 30%?

Kyrie may make his bread and butter as an iso scorer, but I'm pretty sure he can play off ball. 
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Re: Kyrie's first game - how many?
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Re: Kyrie's first game - how many?
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Re: Kyrie's first game - how many?
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Re: Kyrie's first game - how many?
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Re: Kyrie's first game - how many?
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Re: Kyrie's first game - how many?
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Re: Kyrie's first game - how many?
« Reply #70 on: September 19, 2017, 03:08:10 AM »

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Re: Kyrie's first game - how many?
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First, who cares about how many points he scores if we still lose, and second, I think the more amusing question is, "Kyrie's first game - how many assists?" Lol.  Hopefully he'll break even on the old assist-to-turnover ratio ::).

AST:TO ratios over the past two seasons:
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Kyrie Irving: 2.19
Isaiah Thomas: 2.20
Marcus Smart: 2.30

Man, our offense is going to suffer SO dramatically with Kyrie as our PG...

Fair enough.  Thomas and Smart don't dribble the air out of the ball, though :-\.

Thomas doesn't?  Funny, because when we initially traded for him, all I recall reading on this forum was comments about how much people didn't want him because he's a black hole, a chucker and a ball stopper...who does exactly that!

As for Smart, well no...he doesn't dribble the air out of the ball.  But that's just because he is one of the worst ball handling point guards I've ever laid my eyes on in the history of professional basketball.  No seriously, I legitimately think that Al Horford is a better passer AND ball handler then Marcus Smart! :P

While I do think that IT was a ball hog, I don't believe that he's nearly in Kyrie's class in that respect.  Plus, unlike Irving, Thomas can actually play off the ball, whereas Kyrie will routinely dribble out the clock in isolation situations, which, admittedly, sometimes works, but most of the time simply does not.  In that respect they're completely different players, offensively.

As for Smart, well, yeah...I figured that that was pretty self explanatory :laugh:. Between him and Rozier in terms of decision making, well, no wonder Ainge is looking at Bogut, lol.  Come to think of it, with Rozier and Tatum on the second unit - yikes.  Our bench might have more black holes than a documentary/special narrated by Neil deGrasse Tyson :laugh:.

He scored 25 a game last year playing with Lebron James.  Who did IT play with last year who had a usage rate above 30%?

Kyrie may make his bread and butter as an iso scorer, but I'm pretty sure he can play off ball.

See, because of his shooting proficiency, that's what I thought when Lebron first came back to Cleveland, but from what I've seen Kyrie's development even as a spot-up threat has essentially been like pulling teeth.  To be fair, he has improved in that department over the last three seasons, but, idk, and maybe this is just me, Irving seems to be one of those guys who is more comfortable catching the ball, taking a dribble or two, and then shooting it, kind of like Evan Turner in that regard, as opposed to just catching and shooting it, which allows the defense to close and make his shot much more difficult.  He also doesn't move when he's off the ball, either, or at least from what I've seen, which, admittedly, is not a yuge number of games but a decent amount, I'd say, to notice some particular traits and tendencies over the years, but what do I know? :-\

Re: Kyrie's first game - how many?
« Reply #72 on: September 20, 2017, 12:39:21 AM »

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First, who cares about how many points he scores if we still lose, and second, I think the more amusing question is, "Kyrie's first game - how many assists?" Lol.  Hopefully he'll break even on the old assist-to-turnover ratio ::).

AST:TO ratios over the past two seasons:
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Kyrie Irving: 2.19
Isaiah Thomas: 2.20
Marcus Smart: 2.30

Man, our offense is going to suffer SO dramatically with Kyrie as our PG...

Fair enough.  Thomas and Smart don't dribble the air out of the ball, though :-\.

Thomas doesn't?  Funny, because when we initially traded for him, all I recall reading on this forum was comments about how much people didn't want him because he's a black hole, a chucker and a ball stopper...who does exactly that!

As for Smart, well no...he doesn't dribble the air out of the ball.  But that's just because he is one of the worst ball handling point guards I've ever laid my eyes on in the history of professional basketball.  No seriously, I legitimately think that Al Horford is a better passer AND ball handler then Marcus Smart! :P

While I do think that IT was a ball hog, I don't believe that he's nearly in Kyrie's class in that respect.  Plus, unlike Irving, Thomas can actually play off the ball, whereas Kyrie will routinely dribble out the clock in isolation situations, which, admittedly, sometimes works, but most of the time simply does not.  In that respect they're completely different players, offensively.

As for Smart, well, yeah...I figured that that was pretty self explanatory :laugh:. Between him and Rozier in terms of decision making, well, no wonder Ainge is looking at Bogut, lol.  Come to think of it, with Rozier and Tatum on the second unit - yikes.  Our bench might have more black holes than a documentary/special narrated by Neil deGrasse Tyson :laugh:.

He scored 25 a game last year playing with Lebron James.  Who did IT play with last year who had a usage rate above 30%?

Kyrie may make his bread and butter as an iso scorer, but I'm pretty sure he can play off ball.

See, because of his shooting proficiency, that's what I thought when Lebron first came back to Cleveland, but from what I've seen Kyrie's development even as a spot-up threat has essentially been like pulling teeth.  To be fair, he has improved in that department over the last three seasons, but, idk, and maybe this is just me, Irving seems to be one of those guys who is more comfortable catching the ball, taking a dribble or two, and then shooting it, kind of like Evan Turner in that regard, as opposed to just catching and shooting it, which allows the defense to close and make his shot much more difficult.  He also doesn't move when he's off the ball, either, or at least from what I've seen, which, admittedly, is not a yuge number of games but a decent amount, I'd say, to notice some particular traits and tendencies over the years, but what do I know? :-\
Hes incredibly efficient when he does take catch and shoot jumpers, but I agree he seems more comfortable taking a dribble or two.

I also havent been too impressed with his off ball movement, but its not out of the question that there was some level of frustration with playing with Lebron. As good as Lebron James offenses are, they never have much rhythm.
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Re: Kyrie's first game - how many?
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Re: Kyrie's first game - how many?
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