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Re: Should the Celtics extend Smart now or after the season?
« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2017, 01:59:15 PM »

Offline Jamilmac99

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4 years 48 million is a bargain for the Celtics and a lot of security for Smart if he can get some or all guaranteed. It's a win win in no uncertain terms.

Letting the market set his value can mean he is gone. He can't be replaced that easily IMO.


I totally agree with this.

Re: Should the Celtics extend Smart now or after the season?
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2017, 02:08:16 PM »

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Unlike other posters, I think that Smart will have a strong market in RFA. He's a good young player. I think the Celtics should try to extend him to any deal which doesn't plunge us into the LT.

The LT line for '18-19 is projected at $121m, and we currently have $107m committed for that year. Therefore, it's reasonable that we could sign Smart to 4 yrs/$48m and still have room for some minimum salaries without going into LT next year.

This type of move makes sense because what matters isn't Smart's exact salary, it's the LT line:
-The C's aren't going to have cap space the next few years anyway. If we end up paying $12m/yr instead of $9m it isn't a huge deal - it doesn't affect our ability to sign FA's.
-On the other hand, if we end up paying $15m per year in RFA, it's a big problem because it puts us into LT territory and sets us up to be paying the repeater tax in a few years. We don't want to be paying the RT just as GS starts to decline just because we cheaped out and tried to save a couple million dollars by letting Smart hit RFA.

Obviously if Smart and his agent think he's making 4 years/$80m next season, then all bets are off on an extension. But if their expectations are in the right ballpark then management should push for an extension that allows us to avoid the LT next season.

Re: Should the Celtics extend Smart now or after the season?
« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2017, 02:16:23 PM »

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I mean, look at Noel
look at mozgov, ezili, turner, crabb, TT, JR should i continue.

i would love to extend him right now to a reasonable 10-13 mil 4 years, but that is not happening.
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Re: Should the Celtics extend Smart now or after the season?
« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2017, 02:20:11 PM »

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If you could pay him for what he's done now...that could be the way to go. Offer a small handful less than Jordan Clarkson makes. One of those things

Re: Should the Celtics extend Smart now or after the season?
« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2017, 02:55:01 PM »

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I mean, look at Noel
look at mozgov, ezili, turner, crabb, TT, JR should i continue.

i would love to extend him right now to a reasonable 10-13 mil 4 years, but that is not happening.

Those guys got the crazy money that every FO now realizes was insane. Kelly Olynyk just signed with the Heat for 4yrs/$50M. I think that's pretty comparable to what Smart is worth ("worth" not what he "can get").

I'd offer those same numbers, maybe even $52M so it gets him to $13M/yr and lock him up.  He'd have to be very tempted to take that. Not only is it fair money but it shows commitment and he'd feel much safer about not going to another team (he seems to really like Stevens and he's now the longest-tenured Celtic).

Re: Should the Celtics extend Smart now or after the season?
« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2017, 03:12:58 PM »

Offline Bostoncelticsforlife7

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I would love it if we could sign Smart for another 4 years. Based off these comments, I"m assuming the most we can pay without getting in the luxury tax is 4 years 48 mil. I think he's worth more than that but I"m praying that he would accept that offer.
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Re: Should the Celtics extend Smart now or after the season?
« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2017, 03:33:24 PM »

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Pay the man.  He's the heart and soul of our defense.  The way he QB's a defense as a 6'3" guard is unlike anything I've ever seen.  He plays like he's 6'9".  Leaves everything on the court.  A true Celtic, for life, I hope.

Re: Should the Celtics extend Smart now or after the season?
« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2017, 03:37:00 PM »

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Pay the man.  He's the heart and soul of our defense.  The way he QB's a defense as a 6'3" guard is unlike anything I've ever seen.  He plays like he's 6'9".  Leaves everything on the court.  A true Celtic, for life, I hope.

TP! my sentiments exactly, i hope they can lock him up

Re: Should the Celtics extend Smart now or after the season?
« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2017, 04:21:27 PM »

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I mean, the luxury tax situation completely depends on whether or not the LAL pick conveys next year. If so, we should all be excited to get one of the top 5 prospects in the draft, but sad since it begins our [many] years of being over the tax and, thus, having to make some tough decisions on some of our high end / young players.

Even if Smart does sign a reasonable deal - which I think he will unless his percentages soar this year - we are still going to be right up against that line. That also means not using a full exception (like Baynes this year).

Re: Should the Celtics extend Smart now or after the season?
« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2017, 04:35:29 PM »

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I mean, the luxury tax situation completely depends on whether or not the LAL pick conveys next year. If so, we should all be excited to get one of the top 5 prospects in the draft, but sad since it begins our [many] years of being over the tax and, thus, having to make some tough decisions on some of our high end / young players.

Even if Smart does sign a reasonable deal - which I think he will unless his percentages soar this year - we are still going to be right up against that line. That also means not using a full exception (like Baynes this year).

Well if we do get a top five pick next June and don't trade it then someone, like Theiss, Larkin, or Nader, isn't coming back. So deduct their salary too.

Re: Should the Celtics extend Smart now or after the season?
« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2017, 05:15:48 PM »

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I don't want to pay too much for Smart now. If he can take it to the next level this year- great. Pay the man his money.

If not, why overpay for a role player?

I really like Marcus, but I don't want to overextend for someone that will be the 6th/7th best player on a championship team.

Re: Should the Celtics extend Smart now or after the season?
« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2017, 05:17:20 PM »

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I would sign Smart to a 4/48 in a second. If he doesn't progress at all, it's a slight overpay. If he get's better, it's a steal.
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Re: Should the Celtics extend Smart now or after the season?
« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2017, 06:34:16 PM »

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Danny has done well with RFA. I think he will offer a fair offer before the Deadline. I am hopeful Smart will take it. RFA's did not do well this off season and I don't see it next season either.
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Re: Should the Celtics extend Smart now or after the season?
« Reply #28 on: September 02, 2017, 07:59:37 PM »

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I would sign Smart to a 4/48 in a second. If he doesn't progress at all, it's a slight overpay. If he get's better, it's a steal.
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Re: Should the Celtics extend Smart now or after the season?
« Reply #29 on: September 02, 2017, 10:00:42 PM »

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The sooner we sign Smart, the better. I'd love to see him here long term. Plus, I think the show of loyalty would be a good gesture. On top of that, we'd probably get him on a steal of a contract too.
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