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Re: Patriots 2017 season
« Reply #45 on: September 25, 2017, 11:05:39 AM »

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Pats got absolutely lucky—lucky that they have Brady. Some other guys on offense made good plays, especially Cooks and Hogan, but ...

the Patriots defense is absolutely atrocious. Getting Hightower back will help, but not THAT much (nevermind the question of whether he'll be able to stay healthy the rest of the season, which is a big "if"). Pass rushing is an area in which Belichick has never placed a ton of emphasis, much to my dismay, and that seems unlikely to ever change. Malcolm Butler hasn't really been himself so far, and even Gillmore has been beaten badly a couple of times. Belichick and Patricia definitely have some puzzles to solve.
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Re: Patriots 2017 season
« Reply #46 on: September 25, 2017, 11:28:43 AM »

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1. The Pats will continue to get better over the course of the season, and the division looks as easy to win as ever.

2. The defense looks as bad as I can remember it looking, even considering how early it is in the season.
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Re: Patriots 2017 season
« Reply #47 on: October 01, 2017, 02:24:07 PM »

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Will somebody do me a favor and explain how the Pats went from a decent defense last year to maybe the worst defense in the league this year?

Im genuinely mystified.
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Re: Patriots 2017 season
« Reply #48 on: October 01, 2017, 02:27:36 PM »

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Will somebody do me a favor and explain how the Pats went from a decent defense last year to maybe the worst defense in the league this year?

Im genuinely mystified.

Absolutely unbelievable.  The defense on the last 2 Carolina receptions was jaw-dropping.  Teams scoring at will against Pats this season.

Re: Patriots 2017 season
« Reply #49 on: October 01, 2017, 02:34:04 PM »

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Will somebody do me a favor and explain how the Pats went from a decent defense last year to maybe the worst defense in the league this year?

Im genuinely mystified.
A lot of the on-field leadership from last year (Hightower, Nink, Long) are gone and defense seems a bit lost. Thats my best explanation. They will figure it out.
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Re: Patriots 2017 season
« Reply #50 on: October 01, 2017, 02:36:32 PM »

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Will somebody do me a favor and explain how the Pats went from a decent defense last year to maybe the worst defense in the league this year?

Im genuinely mystified.
A lot of the on-field leadership from last year (Hightower, Nink, Long) are gone and defense seems a bit lost. Thats my best explanation. They will figure it out.

Looked like communication issues on both the TD and the previous play before the half.  Poor tackling has also cost them today. Getting confused on screens again. 

Re: Patriots 2017 season
« Reply #51 on: October 01, 2017, 02:42:53 PM »

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Hot knife through butter.   Panthers eating Pats defense for dinner.

Re: Patriots 2017 season
« Reply #52 on: October 01, 2017, 02:46:08 PM »

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Fumble.  That's about all we could hope for. They look just horrible.

Re: Patriots 2017 season
« Reply #53 on: October 01, 2017, 02:53:15 PM »

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I won't keep posting by myself -  I promise, but one last one...   Pats incredibly fortunate to pull out last week's game.  Pats will not be so lucky today if they can't score every time they have the ball.  The wide open miss by Brady on the last possession was big.

Re: Patriots 2017 season
« Reply #54 on: October 01, 2017, 03:47:52 PM »

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Re: Patriots 2017 season
« Reply #55 on: October 01, 2017, 04:03:58 PM »

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Deserved to lose.   Defense is just horrible.

Re: Patriots 2017 season
« Reply #56 on: October 01, 2017, 04:08:06 PM »

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Really troubling stuff out of the defense today, and this year. Not that it's an excuse, but somebody clearly has it out for Stephon Gilmore. Those two hands to the face penalties were very sketchy and came at literally the worst times.

Glad to see Brady is still Brady, but I would personally like to wipe the slate clean with the defense and see what Belichick/Patricia can put together, because this isn't working.

Re: Patriots 2017 season
« Reply #57 on: October 01, 2017, 04:11:07 PM »

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So much for 19-0, thank god we're in the AFC East and can still win the division starting 2-2. We've made every opposing quarterback look like an All Pro. To be fair, Cam is an MVP, Brees is a HOFer, Watson looks like the ROY, and Smith isn't a scrub. But still, the defense is just getting carved up.
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Re: Patriots 2017 season
« Reply #58 on: October 01, 2017, 07:47:40 PM »

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Welp. The only real positive going forward is knowing that in the 2014-2015 season, LOTS of changes were made on defense (many departures, and additions of Revis, Browner, ETC.), and they lost season opener, then lost 4th game of season and started 2-2, BEFORE going on to WINNING the Super Bowl. (They gelled together and communicated better since)

But man.. this defense just looks WAY WORSE than that 2014-2015 team though.

Stephon Gilmore occasionally makes good plays, but then gets burned and has penalties like that. YEESH.

But as bad as the secondary was, lets be real.. they are forced to cover receivers for almost 10 seconds every single play just b/c our pass rush is TRASH. I mean, notice how once the Pats FINALLY got pressure on Cam.. the Panthers drives stalled quickly (and almost stalled again before that BS Gilmore penalty).

Unfortunately that pressure from pass rush only seems to come in spurts and the remaining 3.5 quarters are spent seeing a QB take 10 seconds to burn our defense.

Re: Patriots 2017 season
« Reply #59 on: October 01, 2017, 09:18:34 PM »

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Unless I'm mistaken, I thought the defense started out shaky last year and got progressively better throughout the season.  I remember being surprised late season... like they had gotta sneaky-good with time. 
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