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Initial Reaction: Grade The Trade!

A+
40 (21.2%)
A / A-
37 (19.6%)
B+
28 (14.8%)
B / B-
24 (12.7%)
C+
9 (4.8%)
C / C-
15 (7.9%)
D+
6 (3.2%)
D / D-
6 (3.2%)
F
9 (4.8%)
Incomplete (I Just Can't Give It A Grade Yet)
15 (7.9%)

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Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2017, 06:22:51 PM »

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Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2017, 06:25:07 PM »

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Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2017, 06:31:08 PM »

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A+

Cleveland and their 1yr rental of IT.   Ha.   

Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2017, 06:51:50 PM »

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It is possible that we end up winning this trade by a fair margin.  Kyrie's game could take a leap in Boston playing for his first good coach since a few games with Coach K.  IT4 could bolt after a year or never be the same due to the hip injury.  The pick may never end up being a player of Kyrie's caliber.  Jae and Zizic are not deal breakers in any way for me.  Even if all of that happens (and I would not be THAT surprised if it did) I think as of today DA overpaid so the trade gets a D+ from me.  If that pick was some combo of Boston/LAC/Memphis picks instead I would bump the trade up to the A- range.
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Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2017, 06:52:22 PM »

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Dang you hate it worse than me. LOL. Any reasons?

Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2017, 06:53:57 PM »

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Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2017, 06:56:24 PM »

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I'll wait and post my grade around end of May 2018.

By then hopefully we would've dispatched CLE and LeBron and moved on to play GSW.

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Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2017, 07:11:03 PM »

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B- --> the inclusion of the pick prevents it from being an A.  Kyrie is better than IT.  Crowder is a bench player on a good team.  Losing Zizic thinned the frontcourt where we're already thin

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« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2017, 07:20:33 PM »

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I went with solid B as of now.  We traded undersized pg (great guy etc) for a younger, bigger, better player.  We gave up Jae who is a sub, he's never going to get better than TWO years ago, only worse.  i.e. last season he didn't play as well.  We gave up a draft pick that could be very good or not at all.  And we gave up a young big who as of now doesn't look ready for a few years.

what did it cost us to get IT? Jae?
will IT stay beyond a year rental in Cleveland?  he wants max $ remember, he probably would have walked from c's

solid b, could be better as time goes on

Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2017, 07:24:51 PM »

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Dang you hate it worse than me. LOL. Any reasons?

Because one realistic outcome is that we sacrificed Crowder, Zizic and Porter/Bagley for a lateral move.


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Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2017, 07:25:20 PM »

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A++ (and I'm an IT and Crowder fan)

Pacers traded Paul George with 1-year left and got Oladipo & Sabonis

Celtics traded BK pick and IT with 1-year left and got Kyrie Irving, a bonafide all-star, championship PG that is also 4 years younger. Trading the pick hurts in theory but getting a proven commodity in Kyrie is equivalent to a draft pick breaking out, so I'm cool with this.

Let's be honest, we didn't move on from Crowder with this trade... we moved on from Crowder a long time ago when we drafted Brown last year, Tatum this year and signed Hayward.

Zizic is an anomaly, but at the moment having seen him play in Summer League he's not our long term solution.

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« Reply #26 on: August 23, 2017, 07:38:40 PM »

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Dang you hate it worse than me. LOL. Any reasons?

Because one realistic outcome is that we sacrificed Crowder, Zizic and Porter/Bagley for a lateral move.

Bingo. We're in total agreement here..

Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #27 on: August 23, 2017, 07:39:27 PM »

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Don't know why almost everyone hates this trade..Thomas going be a FA..Crowder is a sub..Zizic is a project..and brookyln pick may be a flop, or may might not b a top 3 pick..we got a top 15 playerwho may be here for a long time
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« Reply #28 on: August 23, 2017, 07:43:26 PM »

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IT was not leading Boston 18 .  Better to have two years of Irving , than chance an i juried IT and then pay him max and then see his hip shatter .

Time to end the to,keep,or not keep IT endless debate ....move on already.

Irving , Morris , Hayward .> IT , AB , Crowder .....mostly because AB is forever injuried and IT is highly likey as a tiny dude to get nailed and not get up.   andddddd...AB and IT are not going to,get max deals.   ....anywhere

Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #29 on: August 23, 2017, 07:49:15 PM »

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C.  I think it's an overpay.  I hate losing the Nets pick and I'm not a big fan of Irving's game.

That said, Irving has yet to hit his prime and there's a reasonable chance that Irving evolves under Stevens and away from Lebron.  Arguably a better bet to produce high value throughout his next contract - IT is reliant on athleticism and quickness, which are traits that frequently don't age well.  Also, it's very possible that the Nets climb out of the cellar in a hilariously bad East.  So while a lot of people are pointing out the downside of this trade, it's important to note that there is upside, too.