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Initial Reaction: Grade The Trade!

A+
40 (21.2%)
A / A-
37 (19.6%)
B+
28 (14.8%)
B / B-
24 (12.7%)
C+
9 (4.8%)
C / C-
15 (7.9%)
D+
6 (3.2%)
D / D-
6 (3.2%)
F
9 (4.8%)
Incomplete (I Just Can't Give It A Grade Yet)
15 (7.9%)

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Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #120 on: November 08, 2017, 08:45:54 PM »

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I hate this thread.

It's just *you said B-, you said B-, you said B-"
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Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #121 on: November 08, 2017, 08:47:48 PM »

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we unloaded a potentially overpaid, undersized, one trick pony,

Was the “one trick” playing basketball at an All-NBA level?

Whatever feelings somebody had about the trade, I still don’t understand the criticism of IT.  He just had one of the best offensive seasons ever for a guard.

It's almost disappointing to see how many people seemed to just dislike Isaiah in general.

I mean that post... "overpaid, one trick pony".. after the season he just had...  :o  ???

I appreciate everything Isaiah did for this organization and I do miss him (even if last year's team was full of overachievers, they still made it a fun season to watch still).
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Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #122 on: November 08, 2017, 09:40:06 PM »

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I hate this thread.

It's just *you said B-, you said B-, you said B-"

It is interesting to see how emotional people got. After thinking, some people came around. After watching, more people came around. It will take 5 years for some to come to a decision.

The way things are looking so far after only 11 games, I can see Kyrie signing an extension. For me, that will make this deal an A.


Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #123 on: November 08, 2017, 10:11:53 PM »

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I hate this thread.

It's just *you said B-, you said B-, you said B-"

It is interesting to see how emotional people got. After thinking, some people came around. After watching, more people came around. It will take 5 years for some to come to a decision.

The way things are looking so far after only 11 games, I can see Kyrie signing an extension. For me, that will make this deal an A.

Lol it will look REALLY BAD for Ainge if Kyrie bolts in 2 years...
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Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #124 on: November 08, 2017, 10:17:48 PM »

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I hate this thread.

It's just *you said B-, you said B-, you said B-"

It is interesting to see how emotional people got. After thinking, some people came around. After watching, more people came around. It will take 5 years for some to come to a decision.

The way things are looking so far after only 11 games, I can see Kyrie signing an extension. For me, that will make this deal an A.

Lol it will look REALLY BAD for Ainge if Kyrie bolts in 2 years...
Woulda looked bad if IT had bolted. Might not look as bad if Kyrie wins a ring here first

Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #125 on: November 08, 2017, 10:23:44 PM »

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I hate this thread.

It's just *you said B-, you said B-, you said B-"

It is interesting to see how emotional people got. After thinking, some people came around. After watching, more people came around. It will take 5 years for some to come to a decision.

The way things are looking so far after only 11 games, I can see Kyrie signing an extension. For me, that will make this deal an A.

Lol it will look REALLY BAD for Ainge if Kyrie bolts in 2 years...
Woulda looked bad if IT had bolted. Might not look as bad if Kyrie wins a ring here first

If we get a top-5 pick this year (sadly looks like a slim chance though) and a healthy Hayward back, I like our chances next year at Banner 18!  8)
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Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #126 on: November 08, 2017, 10:29:25 PM »

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I hate this thread.

It's just *you said B-, you said B-, you said B-"

I mean.. it's literally ALL OVER the place..  :P
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Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #127 on: November 08, 2017, 11:16:11 PM »

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I hate this thread.

It's just *you said B-, you said B-, you said B-"

It is interesting to see how emotional people got. After thinking, some people came around. After watching, more people came around. It will take 5 years for some to come to a decision.

The way things are looking so far after only 11 games, I can see Kyrie signing an extension. For me, that will make this deal an A.

I'd reckon the reason a ton of people have "come around" is because there is a precedent for it.  At the time, a lot of people were disappointed with the BKN trade, and that sure worked out well.  So, why wouldn't this one? 

That's not always the best reason for making a decision or choosing an action, though.  If every one relied on a precedent for X, the outcome would always be some variation of Y, and we would learn a lot less.

I don't even think people with strong opinions have actually watched much of Kyrie this year. 
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Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #128 on: November 09, 2017, 11:46:07 PM »

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I hate this thread.

It's just *you said B-, you said B-, you said B-"

It is interesting to see how emotional people got. After thinking, some people came around. After watching, more people came around. It will take 5 years for some to come to a decision.

The way things are looking so far after only 11 games, I can see Kyrie signing an extension. For me, that will make this deal an A.

I'd reckon the reason a ton of people have "come around" is because there is a precedent for it.  At the time, a lot of people were disappointed with the BKN trade, and that sure worked out well.  So, why wouldn't this one? 

That's not always the best reason for making a decision or choosing an action, though.  If every one relied on a precedent for X, the outcome would always be some variation of Y, and we would learn a lot less.

I don't even think people with strong opinions have actually watched much of Kyrie this year.

If the LAL Pick doesn't convey but BKN Pick falls out of Top-5.. may not look so bad.

Yeah we wouldn't have a top pick but we'd still have a great chance at Top-3 in 2019 (Kings look REAL BAD).
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Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #129 on: November 09, 2017, 11:53:16 PM »

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I hate this thread.

It's just *you said B-, you said B-, you said B-"

It is interesting to see how emotional people got. After thinking, some people came around. After watching, more people came around. It will take 5 years for some to come to a decision.

The way things are looking so far after only 11 games, I can see Kyrie signing an extension. For me, that will make this deal an A.

I'd reckon the reason a ton of people have "come around" is because there is a precedent for it.  At the time, a lot of people were disappointed with the BKN trade, and that sure worked out well.  So, why wouldn't this one? 

That's not always the best reason for making a decision or choosing an action, though.  If every one relied on a precedent for X, the outcome would always be some variation of Y, and we would learn a lot less.

I don't even think people with strong opinions have actually watched much of Kyrie this year.

If the LAL Pick doesn't convey but BKN Pick falls out of Top-5.. may not look so bad.

Yeah we wouldn't have a top pick but we'd still have a great chance at Top-3 in 2019 (Kings look REAL BAD).

Any idea how the 2019 NBA draft is expected to be?  I haven't seen much about it.  It's a shame that Draft Express is done.

Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #130 on: November 09, 2017, 11:55:42 PM »

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I hate this thread.

It's just *you said B-, you said B-, you said B-"

It is interesting to see how emotional people got. After thinking, some people came around. After watching, more people came around. It will take 5 years for some to come to a decision.

The way things are looking so far after only 11 games, I can see Kyrie signing an extension. For me, that will make this deal an A.

I'd reckon the reason a ton of people have "come around" is because there is a precedent for it.  At the time, a lot of people were disappointed with the BKN trade, and that sure worked out well.  So, why wouldn't this one? 

That's not always the best reason for making a decision or choosing an action, though.  If every one relied on a precedent for X, the outcome would always be some variation of Y, and we would learn a lot less.

I don't even think people with strong opinions have actually watched much of Kyrie this year.

If the LAL Pick doesn't convey but BKN Pick falls out of Top-5.. may not look so bad.

Yeah we wouldn't have a top pick but we'd still have a great chance at Top-3 in 2019 (Kings look REAL BAD).

Any idea how the 2019 NBA draft is expected to be?  I haven't seen much about it.  It's a shame that Draft Express is done.

Unfortunately idk either.

Sucks though because this draft is LOADED with potential franchise-changing big men...  :(

But looks like we won't get the pick. Lakers look somewhat decent and other teams look worse...
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Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #131 on: November 10, 2017, 12:03:08 AM »

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I hate this thread.

It's just *you said B-, you said B-, you said B-"

It is interesting to see how emotional people got. After thinking, some people came around. After watching, more people came around. It will take 5 years for some to come to a decision.

The way things are looking so far after only 11 games, I can see Kyrie signing an extension. For me, that will make this deal an A.

I'd reckon the reason a ton of people have "come around" is because there is a precedent for it.  At the time, a lot of people were disappointed with the BKN trade, and that sure worked out well.  So, why wouldn't this one? 

That's not always the best reason for making a decision or choosing an action, though.  If every one relied on a precedent for X, the outcome would always be some variation of Y, and we would learn a lot less.

I don't even think people with strong opinions have actually watched much of Kyrie this year.

If the LAL Pick doesn't convey but BKN Pick falls out of Top-5.. may not look so bad.

Yeah we wouldn't have a top pick but we'd still have a great chance at Top-3 in 2019 (Kings look REAL BAD).

Any idea how the 2019 NBA draft is expected to be?  I haven't seen much about it.  It's a shame that Draft Express is done.

Unfortunately idk either.

Sucks though because this draft is LOADED with potential franchise-changing big men...  :(

But looks like we won't get the pick. Lakers look somewhat decent and other teams look worse...


Yeah, I thought the Lakers were going to be terrible.  It's disappointing how well they're playing.  I would love a top 5 pick this next draft.

Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #132 on: November 10, 2017, 12:06:28 AM »

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I hate this thread.

It's just *you said B-, you said B-, you said B-"

It is interesting to see how emotional people got. After thinking, some people came around. After watching, more people came around. It will take 5 years for some to come to a decision.

The way things are looking so far after only 11 games, I can see Kyrie signing an extension. For me, that will make this deal an A.

I'd reckon the reason a ton of people have "come around" is because there is a precedent for it.  At the time, a lot of people were disappointed with the BKN trade, and that sure worked out well.  So, why wouldn't this one? 

That's not always the best reason for making a decision or choosing an action, though.  If every one relied on a precedent for X, the outcome would always be some variation of Y, and we would learn a lot less.

I don't even think people with strong opinions have actually watched much of Kyrie this year.

If the LAL Pick doesn't convey but BKN Pick falls out of Top-5.. may not look so bad.

Yeah we wouldn't have a top pick but we'd still have a great chance at Top-3 in 2019 (Kings look REAL BAD).

Any idea how the 2019 NBA draft is expected to be?  I haven't seen much about it.  It's a shame that Draft Express is done.

Unfortunately idk either.

Sucks though because this draft is LOADED with potential franchise-changing big men...  :(

But looks like we won't get the pick. Lakers look somewhat decent and other teams look worse...


Yeah, I thought the Lakers were going to be terrible.  It's disappointing how well they're playing.  I would love a top 5 pick this next draft.

It's also that there's just other (new) teams this year that are just downright awful.

I mean even Brooklyn actually looks pretty decent too this season.

Hawks, Bulls, Kings, Mavericks... horrible.  :(
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Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #133 on: November 10, 2017, 06:32:11 AM »

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Grading trades is a media thing IMO. It's unclear what we are evaluating.

Irving's trade is one any GM would have done, it's a no-brainer really.

Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #134 on: November 10, 2017, 09:52:25 AM »

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Grading trades is a media thing IMO. It's unclear what we are evaluating.

Irving's trade is one any GM would have done, it's a no-brainer really.
Yes, the funniest thing is when the pieces in a trade are picks (or 19 y/o players) that take 4/5 years to be consumed in the first place, without us having a clear idea where they might land, and then they grade it 15 minutes after the trade.
They can't predict how will, for example, Batum fit in Bobcats in 2015, (they didn't predict he will be operating the ball this much and that he will bring much less defensively than offensively) but they are presenting to know how the unknown pick that will select the unknown player to a, by then surely, unknown roster in an unknown league, that was totally different just 4 years ago.
Oh yea, teams can also trade the parts of that trade to make it even more of an unknown.

Ahh, the "experts".
Now, in the Internet era, we can't even wipe our behinds with their articles, to put some use into them.
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