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Initial Reaction: Grade The Trade!

A+
40 (21.2%)
A / A-
37 (19.6%)
B+
28 (14.8%)
B / B-
24 (12.7%)
C+
9 (4.8%)
C / C-
15 (7.9%)
D+
6 (3.2%)
D / D-
6 (3.2%)
F
9 (4.8%)
Incomplete (I Just Can't Give It A Grade Yet)
15 (7.9%)

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Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« on: August 23, 2017, 05:28:51 PM »

Offline Phantom255x

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So you all know the drill. Grade The Trade.   8)

Oh and CREDIT to @Jvalin for the grading system, the way he laid it out on the poll for the thread "Grading Danny's Offseason Moves". I actually like this way a lot better (with the groupings) than just putting ALL of them (+/-) separately.  :laugh:

My Grade For This Trade: A Solid C / C-

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Future Draft Picks: https://www.prosportstransactions.com/basketball/DraftTrades/Future/Knick

Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2017, 05:43:57 PM »

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I went B+. Irving is arguably a top ten player under contract 2 years. While IT is banged up and on his last year. Crowder is a good player but we had a long jam at SF. The Nets pick hurts but if Phx was indeed also bidding then that was probably needed to seal the deal.
Mock "trade deadline" team: Blazers.
PG-Lillard, Napier, Baldwin
SG-McCollum, Connaughton, Wilcox
SF-Fournier, Harkless, Layman
PF-Aminu, Davis
C- Nurkic, Leonard, Collins

Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2017, 05:46:34 PM »

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I say D/D- pending further moves. Expended major assets to upgrade a position where arguably we had our best player last season while doing nothing to improve the frontcourt, rebounding, or interior D.

Very, very poor trade in my opinion. I'm surprised Ainge actually pulled the trigger..

Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2017, 05:51:29 PM »

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I say D/D- pending further moves. Expended major assets to upgrade a position where arguably we had our best player last season while doing nothing to improve the frontcourt, rebounding, or interior D.

Very, very poor trade in my opinion. I'm surprised Ainge actually pulled the trigger..

Yeah, if any future trades are made in-season or next summer, it HAS to be for a big man, and preferably a really good one.

Or hope that Lakers Pick conveys and we get a potential big man of the future to build with.

Unfortunately this could be another year where we get out-rebounded most games. :(
2018 Mock Trade Deadline (New York Knicks)

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Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2017, 05:52:22 PM »

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Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2017, 05:54:24 PM »

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2018 Mock Trade Deadline (New York Knicks)

Roster: Porzingis, Kanter, Hardaway Jr, Julius Randle, Schroder, Beasley, Alex Abrines, Jarrett Jack, Frank Ntilikina, Lance Thomas, Kyle Singler, Josh Huestis, Ron Baker, Trey Burke, Luke Kornet, Isaiah Hicks

Future Draft Picks: https://www.prosportstransactions.com/basketball/DraftTrades/Future/Knick

Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2017, 06:01:05 PM »

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A+ for the Cavs

Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2017, 06:02:36 PM »

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2018 Mock Trade Deadline (New York Knicks)

Roster: Porzingis, Kanter, Hardaway Jr, Julius Randle, Schroder, Beasley, Alex Abrines, Jarrett Jack, Frank Ntilikina, Lance Thomas, Kyle Singler, Josh Huestis, Ron Baker, Trey Burke, Luke Kornet, Isaiah Hicks

Future Draft Picks: https://www.prosportstransactions.com/basketball/DraftTrades/Future/Knick

Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2017, 06:05:30 PM »

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Definitely an F for me.

Edit: F- if it were an option
« Last Edit: August 23, 2017, 06:32:26 PM by max215 »
Isaiah, you were lightning in a bottle.

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Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2017, 06:06:46 PM »

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Why to these polls always give an out for voters?  Can't decide?  The point isn't to wait until it all plays out to give your grade.  Grow a pair and do it now, based on what we think will happen.

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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2017, 06:07:02 PM »

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Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2017, 06:14:09 PM »

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I gave it a B- based on the principle that it's not a bad deal if you get the best asset in the trade. Irving is that, based on his performance, age, current health and contract situation (and as evinced by the fact that we traded multiple assets for him).

That said I believe that if we held out longer, the price would have fallen and we could have held onto the Brooklyn pick, probably by giving up two other first rounders or something.

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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2017, 06:14:52 PM »

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F-

Probably should have included that in the poll LOL.
2018 Mock Trade Deadline (New York Knicks)

Roster: Porzingis, Kanter, Hardaway Jr, Julius Randle, Schroder, Beasley, Alex Abrines, Jarrett Jack, Frank Ntilikina, Lance Thomas, Kyle Singler, Josh Huestis, Ron Baker, Trey Burke, Luke Kornet, Isaiah Hicks

Future Draft Picks: https://www.prosportstransactions.com/basketball/DraftTrades/Future/Knick

Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2017, 06:18:30 PM »

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This is the fireworks, turning assets into a potential championship starting point guard.  IT might also be good enough for a championship starting point guard, but the timing is wrong.  Body wise and basketball wise I think IT is comparable to Iverson.  High chance of slowing down, breaking down, and becoming ineffective before the rebuild is fully over.  Crowder's ceiling is too low:  he is not going to be better than Draymond Green or Kawhi Leonard.  Celtics were full of good "glue" guys, but to win the championship you need 2-3 starters who are better players than the competition.
I love Isaiah's character, but this gets the Celtics closer to a championship.

And Danny said "who knows, maybe the trading is not done yet this pre-season"  There may be another shoe to drop.

Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2017, 06:22:42 PM »

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This trade will largely be judged on how much of a failure it turns out to be for Cavs.  I'm banking on Irving being a stud.  If IT's hip is a factor and the Nets makes strides toward mediocrity the deal will look a lot better.  I hate having to root for IT for underperform because I love the guy, but I think that's the reality.

Unless of course Irving turns into a transcendent player in Boston.  Then I think whatever the price will be well worth it.

My green gut is telling we'll be a better team.

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