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Re: To Quote What Tony Massarotti Once Said: I. HATE. THIS. TRADE.
« Reply #45 on: August 23, 2017, 04:36:07 PM »

Offline byennie

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The only question in this trade IMO is whether we overpaid. In terms of long-term plans, it makes a lot of sense.

I think IT had a better offensive season last year and is a great guy, but Irving is more valuable considering the 2 years under contract, younger, healthier, playoff mismatch problems, and better overall upside. So IT + something does make sense.

Crowder, Zizic, BKN is a hell of a "something", but: Crowder had become our 4th or 5th most valuable wing. Zizic is likely a role player. BKN pick is hard to rate, but you could definitely argue it's worth less than Brown or Tatum (known quantities who we rated #3 and #1 in their draft classes).

Ainge wanted to get two young All-Stars locked up and he did it, while keeping his 3 favorite young players (Smart, Brown, Tatum) and conjuring up the LAL pick along the way.

Eyes on the big picture. We're even in great shape cap-wise, compared to any other team with multiple stars under contract.
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Re: To Quote What Tony Massarotti Once Said: I. HATE. THIS. TRADE.
« Reply #46 on: August 23, 2017, 05:23:32 PM »

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I'm done.
First it was the K. Perkins trade that cost the C's a potential championship.
Then it was Tony Allen, James Posey, Rondo, Avery Bradley, etc., and now IT.
Snake Danny "loves" all these guys- yeah right!. The minute he gets a player he's on the phone trying to trade him.
No loyalty, no pride, no tradition, no stability- just constant shuffling of the deck.
And this latest trade sucks.
I've been a fan for almost 50 years but this is really the last straw.
The best part of watching the C's this year wil be Scal and Draper, plus Tommy. But I have no interest anymore.

Bingo.

I've been looking for the post-Garnett trade Brickowski post, and this one is it.

What do you think of this trade @coachbo?

Hate it? Meh? Love it?

I'm fine with it. Stevens will expand Kyrie's game - first time he's played for a real coach. The Nets are going to be improved, so the pick should be somewhere around 7, I would expect. Crowder is an expendable piece and Zizic looked awful in summer league. I hope Rollie isn't on suicide watch because the Lithuanian Leadfoot has been moved.

The Celtics got better last night, short term and long term. Thomas did a lot for this franchise, but this franchise did a lot for him. I'm fine with the trade. One of Ainge's better moves.

I actually never thought about the coach thing, but you're right.

Stevens is WAY better than anyone Cleveland has had. TP for that.

I hope you're right about Nets Pick but idk, the fact that Lakers can only convey 2-5 scares me. Wish it was something like 2-7. Even if it's on the lower end, I WANT a Top-10 pick out of this draft. Not having it convey would be brutal...

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« Reply #47 on: August 23, 2017, 05:33:52 PM »

Offline JHTruth

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I'm done.
First it was the K. Perkins trade that cost the C's a potential championship.
Then it was Tony Allen, James Posey, Rondo, Avery Bradley, etc., and now IT.
Snake Danny "loves" all these guys- yeah right!. The minute he gets a player he's on the phone trying to trade him.
No loyalty, no pride, no tradition, no stability- just constant shuffling of the deck.
And this latest trade sucks.
I've been a fan for almost 50 years but this is really the last straw.
The best part of watching the C's this year wil be Scal and Draper, plus Tommy. But I have no interest anymore.

Bingo.

I've been looking for the post-Garnett trade Brickowski post, and this one is it.

What do you think of this trade @coachbo?

Hate it? Meh? Love it?

I'm fine with it. Stevens will expand Kyrie's game - first time he's played for a real coach. The Nets are going to be improved, so the pick should be somewhere around 7, I would expect. Crowder is an expendable piece and Zizic looked awful in summer league. I hope Rollie isn't on suicide watch because the Lithuanian Leadfoot has been moved.

The Celtics got better last night, short term and long term. Thomas did a lot for this franchise, but this franchise did a lot for him. I'm fine with the trade. One of Ainge's better moves.

I think the jury is out on the trade for the long term. This draft class looks pretty amazing at the top and we just traded one of those guys away to really just draw even with the Cavs in the East. We're running out of assets to make big moves and we're still not in the same ballpark as GS.

Great, I'm glad we're one of the three top teams on the league but in my opinion trading away Ante and the Brooklyn pick especially for an upgrade at a position that was already one of our assumed strengths coming into the season reeks of shooting the moon and coming up short.

Our big rotation aside from Horford is as atrocious as ever and our rebounding will again be an abomination, possibly worse..

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« Reply #48 on: August 23, 2017, 05:52:44 PM »

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I'm done.
First it was the K. Perkins trade that cost the C's a potential championship.
Then it was Tony Allen, James Posey, Rondo, Avery Bradley, etc., and now IT.
Snake Danny "loves" all these guys- yeah right!. The minute he gets a player he's on the phone trying to trade him.
No loyalty, no pride, no tradition, no stability- just constant shuffling of the deck.
And this latest trade sucks.
I've been a fan for almost 50 years but this is really the last straw.
The best part of watching the C's this year wil be Scal and Draper, plus Tommy. But I have no interest anymore.

Bingo.

I've been looking for the post-Garnett trade Brickowski post, and this one is it.

What do you think of this trade @coachbo?

Hate it? Meh? Love it?

I'm fine with it. Stevens will expand Kyrie's game - first time he's played for a real coach. The Nets are going to be improved, so the pick should be somewhere around 7, I would expect. Crowder is an expendable piece and Zizic looked awful in summer league. I hope Rollie isn't on suicide watch because the Lithuanian Leadfoot has been moved.

The Celtics got better last night, short term and long term. Thomas did a lot for this franchise, but this franchise did a lot for him. I'm fine with the trade. One of Ainge's better moves.

I think the jury is out on the trade for the long term. This draft class looks pretty amazing at the top and we just traded one of those guys away to really just draw even with the Cavs in the East. We're running out of assets to make big moves and we're still not in the same ballpark as GS.

Great, I'm glad we're one of the three top teams on the league but in my opinion trading away Ante and the Brooklyn pick especially for an upgrade at a position that was already one of our assumed strengths coming into the season reeks of shooting the moon and coming up short.

Our big rotation aside from Horford is as atrocious as ever and our rebounding will again be an abomination, possibly worse..

Not saying it will be a huge upgrade at all, but I think they REALLY need to go after a big man using the remaining exception they have. They NEED depth behind Horford and Baynes.

And I agree with most of what you say.

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« Reply #49 on: August 24, 2017, 04:51:21 PM »

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Lol and even Mazz is surprised Ainge made this move. We all are..

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« Reply #50 on: August 27, 2017, 12:10:34 PM »

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I feel conflicted now.

As much as I hate the trade, now that there's a chance to have it voided, I'm having second thoughts about it LOL.

Strange but funny times these are.

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« Reply #51 on: August 28, 2017, 03:47:30 AM »

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The only thing that Ainge could do, if in some scenario the trade is canceled, is to try to go with same players + another picks and players after Davis.