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Cleveland becomes a lot stronger/deeper this year and IT AND Crowder.....could make LeBaby stay.On top of that, trading the guy H and H came here to play with in IT?Bad, Bad juju.No thanks.
Wowzer. This is the best thing I have heard yet to keep you off the ledge:From Bobby Marks:-"Kyrie Irving is eligible to have his contract extended next summer but only with an increase to $24.1M, roughly $8M below his projected max in 2019. Irving could also have his contract renegotiated in July but the Celtics are projected to be over the salary cap."Most people are saying we have an agreement that he will extend, although that does seem super strange that he would commit now to leaving 8 million on the table :/
Here take my hand......1. We were not paying IT $35 mil a year and 2. He's 29 going on 30 coming off a hip injury. and 3. Kyrie is 25 and not even in his prime yet.Welcome back.
Zicic hasn't shown much of anything yet. Doesn't seem like he'd get significant minutes on a team looking to contend. Crowder is a great role player, but the C's have more than enough players that can fulfill his role. It also gives the younger guys more chance to shine. For me, the element that breaks or makes this trade is the pick. If the Nets can bounce back and have a decent season and send that pick outside the top 8, this trade is win for me. Anywhere in the top 5 and I think it's an L.
The Brooklyn pick was the straw that broke the camels back for me. Not a fan of loosing that pick. Kyrie is not only better than IT, he's younger, already signed, and ended last year healthy.IT most likely needed to be operated on at the end of last season, he delayed the operation to try to get the "Brinks Truck" backing into his driveway. Players don't sign Max contracts recuperating on their back in the Hospital, and IT knew it. Somewhere in he next 18 months IT will need to be operated on. He will not be the same player in his 30's as he was last year. Crowder is a player I would have liked to keep. But with Tatum and Brown maturing, he would eventually be sitting on the bench. I know we have some hardcore fans of Zizic, IMO he is years away from being a contributing member of any NBA team. Incredibly slow getting off his feet.I hated giving up the Nets pick, for me it would have been the deal breaker. The question must be asked, what other better options did the Cavs have, that we needed to include the pick.
Quote from: GreenWarrior on August 22, 2017, 08:03:49 PMwow! I knew this board overrated our players, but the reaction to getting the best player in a trade in which we just got rid of a bunch of players that are easily replaceable is ludicrous.in case any of you don't know though - jae crowder has done nothing for this team since his 1st season here. if he stayed any longer all he'd be doing is taking mins. away from guys that can actually play like Brown and Tatum.ante zizic dominated a bunch of guys in Europe that wouldn't even make the D-league. as soon as he came over and played here in summer league, guess what? he looked average... and that's being generous.the Brooklyn pick sucks, but you have to give up something. and I actually think this says a lot about what they think about tatum and brown.everybody here is butt-hurt for no reason. we got the better deal. If only NBA teams were built in a video game. This trade was terrible. The C's will take a step back next season.
wow! I knew this board overrated our players, but the reaction to getting the best player in a trade in which we just got rid of a bunch of players that are easily replaceable is ludicrous.in case any of you don't know though - jae crowder has done nothing for this team since his 1st season here. if he stayed any longer all he'd be doing is taking mins. away from guys that can actually play like Brown and Tatum.ante zizic dominated a bunch of guys in Europe that wouldn't even make the D-league. as soon as he came over and played here in summer league, guess what? he looked average... and that's being generous.the Brooklyn pick sucks, but you have to give up something. and I actually think this says a lot about what they think about tatum and brown.everybody here is butt-hurt for no reason. we got the better deal.
Quote from: TheTruthFot18 on August 22, 2017, 08:34:56 PMHere take my hand......1. We were not paying IT $35 mil a year and 2. He's 29 going on 30 coming off a hip injury. and 3. Kyrie is 25 and not even in his prime yet.Welcome back.1. That's true, mostly because the max he can get will be 30% of the cap and the cap isn't rising to $116 million next year. He literally can't get $35 million per year2. He's 28 and turns 29 in February. That is not "29 going on 30"3. No arguments there
Just ignore the last few years, I guess. If somebody told you we'd trade the aging KG and Pierce, along with spare parts, for Kyrie, Tatum, Brown and a likely lottery pick, you'd be pretty excited, right?That's the best I've got.