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Re: Trump And His Administration (Day to Day Thread)
« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2017, 01:53:45 PM »

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Another day, another resignation, this time the science envoy to the State Department. Funny thing is the first letter in each paragraph of the resignation letter spells out IMPEACH". Ha!

Has any other president in recent memory have so many resignations and firings directly due to the president's actions, words and policies?
Would you want to be a scientist in this administration?

"He blinded me with science!"


He probably thinks that like global warming the eclipse is a Chinese hoax.
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Re: Trump And His Administration (Day to Day Thread)
« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2017, 08:16:44 PM »

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Trump pardoned Sheriff Joe.

Comment from Tim Miller, republican consultant:

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If your executive action is so heinous it needs to be announced in a Friday news dump during a hurricane maybe consider not doing it.

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Re: Trump And His Administration (Day to Day Thread)
« Reply #32 on: August 25, 2017, 08:21:53 PM »

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At least President Trump called for UNITY today during his American Legion speech.

I'm praying for this man to do MORE speeches like this.

I want to believe it's from the heart and I want to believe he's TRYING.
Keep on praying if that helps you.  There's no evidence whatsoever that he speaks from the heart or he is trying.  In fact, ALL of evidence is to the opposite.

Re: Trump And His Administration (Day to Day Thread)
« Reply #33 on: August 25, 2017, 08:40:30 PM »

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Trump pardoned Sheriff Joe.

Comment from Tim Miller, republican consultant:

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If your executive action is so heinous it needs to be announced in a Friday news dump during a hurricane maybe consider not doing it.

For anyone who's not familiar, Arpaio was convicted for deliberately and repeatedly violating a court order to stop racially profiling Latinos. Yet another nod to virulent bigots across the land - the President has your back. Also underscores how utterly hollow the Republican complaints of "lawlessness" were. And the branding of Trump as a "law and order" candidate.

And in another move that accomplishes nothing but virtue signaling for bigots, the ban on trans soldiers was formalized.

At least Gorka is finally out.

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« Reply #34 on: August 25, 2017, 08:43:40 PM »

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Trump pardoned Sheriff Joe.

Comment from Tim Miller, republican consultant:

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If your executive action is so heinous it needs to be announced in a Friday news dump during a hurricane maybe consider not doing it.
Doing this so close to Charlottesville is an example of President Trump's political tone deafness.  That or it is him playing to the more racist portion/bigoted portion of his base.  Either way it is what is expected from him.
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Re: Trump And His Administration (Day to Day Thread)
« Reply #35 on: August 27, 2017, 01:06:57 PM »

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Is there any justification for the Arpaio pardon? This is dictatorship/banana republic type stuff.

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« Reply #36 on: August 27, 2017, 04:20:09 PM »

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Is there any justification for the Arpaio pardon? This is dictatorship/banana republic type stuff.

I suppose the justification is that at least one of the things he got in trouble for -- essentially, enforcing Federal immigration law -- was only newly off-limits due to Obama. Arpaio was allegedly fighting a political decision to do his job and protect the country.

But in the end, it doesn't really matter. Presidents pardon / commute the sentences of dozens, even hundreds, of people every term. Arpaio is no more or less deserving than most of them.


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Re: Trump And His Administration (Day to Day Thread)
« Reply #37 on: August 27, 2017, 04:31:51 PM »

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Is there any justification for the Arpaio pardon? This is dictatorship/banana republic type stuff.

I suppose the justification is that at least one of the things he got in trouble for -- essentially, enforcing Federal immigration law -- was only newly off-limits due to Obama. Arpaio was allegedly fighting a political decision to do his job and protect the country.

But in the end, it doesn't really matter. Presidents pardon / commute the sentences of dozens, even hundreds, of people every term. Arpaio is no more or less deserving than most of them.

I guess we'll end up disagreeing on that. Even by the standards of the current republican party he was extreme. He was a law enforcement officer who ran a system so racist and cruel he was ordered to stop. He refused to stop and lied about it which was his ultimate conviction for which he was pardoned. It was done without the usual process and is condemned by nearly all, including republican state senator mccain. It basically sends an early term message that as long as your crimes are racist and you support trump, you will get off. Im guessing we will see a few pretty words and zero action from republican reps and senate, even though this is what impeachment was designed for.

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« Reply #38 on: August 27, 2017, 05:49:33 PM »

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Is there any justification for the Arpaio pardon? This is dictatorship/banana republic type stuff.

I suppose the justification is that at least one of the things he got in trouble for -- essentially, enforcing Federal immigration law -- was only newly off-limits due to Obama. Arpaio was allegedly fighting a political decision to do his job and protect the country.

But in the end, it doesn't really matter. Presidents pardon / commute the sentences of dozens, even hundreds, of people every term. Arpaio is no more or less deserving than most of them.

I guess we'll end up disagreeing on that. Even by the standards of the current republican party he was extreme. He was a law enforcement officer who ran a system so racist and cruel he was ordered to stop. He refused to stop and lied about it which was his ultimate conviction for which he was pardoned. It was done without the usual process and is condemned by nearly all, including republican state senator mccain. It basically sends an early term message that as long as your crimes are racist and you support trump, you will get off. Im guessing we will see a few pretty words and zero action from republican reps and senate, even though this is what impeachment was designed for.

Or you can pardon a literal terrorist like Obama did, and no one will say anything.....

Re: Trump And His Administration (Day to Day Thread)
« Reply #39 on: August 27, 2017, 09:39:28 PM »

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Is there any justification for the Arpaio pardon? This is dictatorship/banana republic type stuff.

I suppose the justification is that at least one of the things he got in trouble for -- essentially, enforcing Federal immigration law -- was only newly off-limits due to Obama. Arpaio was allegedly fighting a political decision to do his job and protect the country.

But in the end, it doesn't really matter. Presidents pardon / commute the sentences of dozens, even hundreds, of people every term. Arpaio is no more or less deserving than most of them.

I guess we'll end up disagreeing on that. Even by the standards of the current republican party he was extreme. He was a law enforcement officer who ran a system so racist and cruel he was ordered to stop. He refused to stop and lied about it which was his ultimate conviction for which he was pardoned. It was done without the usual process and is condemned by nearly all, including republican state senator mccain. It basically sends an early term message that as long as your crimes are racist and you support trump, you will get off. Im guessing we will see a few pretty words and zero action from republican reps and senate, even though this is what impeachment was designed for.

Or you can pardon a literal terrorist like Obama did, and no one will say anything.....
I'll kick myself for asking - but who is this "literal terrorist" Obama pardoned?

Re: Trump And His Administration (Day to Day Thread)
« Reply #40 on: August 27, 2017, 09:42:10 PM »

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Is there any justification for the Arpaio pardon? This is dictatorship/banana republic type stuff.

I suppose the justification is that at least one of the things he got in trouble for -- essentially, enforcing Federal immigration law -- was only newly off-limits due to Obama. Arpaio was allegedly fighting a political decision to do his job and protect the country.

But in the end, it doesn't really matter. Presidents pardon / commute the sentences of dozens, even hundreds, of people every term. Arpaio is no more or less deserving than most of them.

I guess we'll end up disagreeing on that. Even by the standards of the current republican party he was extreme. He was a law enforcement officer who ran a system so racist and cruel he was ordered to stop. He refused to stop and lied about it which was his ultimate conviction for which he was pardoned. It was done without the usual process and is condemned by nearly all, including republican state senator mccain. It basically sends an early term message that as long as your crimes are racist and you support trump, you will get off. Im guessing we will see a few pretty words and zero action from republican reps and senate, even though this is what impeachment was designed for.

Or you can pardon a literal terrorist like Obama did, and no one will say anything.....
I'll kick myself for asking - but who is this "literal terrorist" Obama pardoned?

Oscar Lopez Rivera, killed people with bombs, search for yourself......

Re: Trump And His Administration (Day to Day Thread)
« Reply #41 on: August 27, 2017, 09:42:12 PM »

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Is there any justification for the Arpaio pardon? This is dictatorship/banana republic type stuff.

I suppose the justification is that at least one of the things he got in trouble for -- essentially, enforcing Federal immigration law -- was only newly off-limits due to Obama. Arpaio was allegedly fighting a political decision to do his job and protect the country.

But in the end, it doesn't really matter. Presidents pardon / commute the sentences of dozens, even hundreds, of people every term. Arpaio is no more or less deserving than most of them.

I guess we'll end up disagreeing on that. Even by the standards of the current republican party he was extreme. He was a law enforcement officer who ran a system so racist and cruel he was ordered to stop. He refused to stop and lied about it which was his ultimate conviction for which he was pardoned. It was done without the usual process and is condemned by nearly all, including republican state senator mccain. It basically sends an early term message that as long as your crimes are racist and you support trump, you will get off. Im guessing we will see a few pretty words and zero action from republican reps and senate, even though this is what impeachment was designed for.

Or you can pardon a literal terrorist like Obama did, and no one will say anything.....
I'll kick myself for asking - but who is this "literal terrorist" Obama pardoned?

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/oscar-lopez-commutation-barack-obama-214685


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Re: Trump And His Administration (Day to Day Thread)
« Reply #42 on: August 27, 2017, 09:44:57 PM »

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Re: Trump And His Administration (Day to Day Thread)
« Reply #43 on: August 27, 2017, 09:47:29 PM »

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Is there any justification for the Arpaio pardon? This is dictatorship/banana republic type stuff.

I suppose the justification is that at least one of the things he got in trouble for -- essentially, enforcing Federal immigration law -- was only newly off-limits due to Obama. Arpaio was allegedly fighting a political decision to do his job and protect the country.

But in the end, it doesn't really matter. Presidents pardon / commute the sentences of dozens, even hundreds, of people every term. Arpaio is no more or less deserving than most of them.
that's really downplaying (or omitting) one of the biggest issues he was in trouble for which was blatant racial profiling by pulling over people for just being hispanic.  he was just pulling people over and holding them to check their immigration status with no other reason to justify stopping them.  pulled over and detained a lot of citizens and legal immigrants.

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« Reply #44 on: August 27, 2017, 09:54:42 PM »

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Is there any justification for the Arpaio pardon? This is dictatorship/banana republic type stuff.

I suppose the justification is that at least one of the things he got in trouble for -- essentially, enforcing Federal immigration law -- was only newly off-limits due to Obama. Arpaio was allegedly fighting a political decision to do his job and protect the country.

But in the end, it doesn't really matter. Presidents pardon / commute the sentences of dozens, even hundreds, of people every term. Arpaio is no more or less deserving than most of them.
that's really downplaying (or omitting) one of the biggest issues he was in trouble for which was blatant racial profiling by pulling over people for just being hispanic.  he was just pulling people over and holding them to check their immigration status with no other reason to justify stopping them.  pulled over and detained a lot of citizens and legal immigrants.

And the timing.   

Right on the heals of Charlottsville you pardon a convicted bigot?

Not sure how republicans continue to look the other way and enable such a racist regime. 
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