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Re: GC's Yahoo! H2H League 2017 Constitutional Convention
« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2017, 09:35:42 AM »

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Do we have a tentative draft date?

Let's do it!

Sorry everyone -- work has been brutal the last two weeks.

Are there any objections to Wed. Sept 6 or Thur. Sept 7 from 12-5pm E.S.T.?

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Re: GC's Yahoo! H2H League 2017 Constitutional Convention
« Reply #31 on: August 29, 2017, 09:41:16 AM »

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Do we have a tentative draft date?

Let's do it!

Sorry everyone -- work has been brutal the last two weeks.

Are there any objections to Wed. Sept 6 or Thur. Sept 7 from 12-5pm E.S.T.?

Works for me!

Re: GC's Yahoo! H2H League 2017 Constitutional Convention
« Reply #32 on: August 29, 2017, 09:47:24 AM »

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Do we have a tentative draft date?

Let's do it!

Sorry everyone -- work has been brutal the last two weeks.

Are there any objections to Wed. Sept 6 or Thur. Sept 7 from 12-5pm E.S.T.?

Any date is fine by me.

I am travelling on the 6th and away in deep wood Maine fishing through the 10th. If the draft is on the 6th, depending on the time of the #10 selection, I may be able to make it. If not or the date of the draft is 7th-10th, I will send a list.

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Re: GC's Yahoo! H2H League 2017 Constitutional Convention
« Reply #33 on: August 29, 2017, 10:08:31 AM »

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Re: GC's Yahoo! H2H League 2017 Constitutional Convention
« Reply #34 on: August 29, 2017, 10:53:34 AM »

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Do we have a tentative draft date?

Let's do it!

Sorry everyone -- work has been brutal the last two weeks.

Are there any objections to Wed. Sept 6 or Thur. Sept 7 from 12-5pm E.S.T.?

Both work for me.

Re: GC's Yahoo! H2H League 2017 Constitutional Convention
« Reply #35 on: August 29, 2017, 03:07:42 PM »

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Do we have a tentative draft date?

Let's do it!

Sorry everyone -- work has been brutal the last two weeks.

Are there any objections to Wed. Sept 6 or Thur. Sept 7 from 12-5pm E.S.T.?

Both work for me.

Sounds good
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Re: GC's Yahoo! H2H League 2017 Constitutional Convention
« Reply #36 on: August 29, 2017, 05:32:35 PM »

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Both work. Thanks
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Re: GC's Yahoo! H2H League 2017 Constitutional Convention
« Reply #37 on: August 29, 2017, 05:41:01 PM »

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I have no picks so it doesn't matter to me  :P

Re: GC's Yahoo! H2H League 2017 Constitutional Convention
« Reply #38 on: September 01, 2017, 07:20:24 AM »

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I will send I list I will be traveling as well. I am trying to trade my only pick the 11th for a big at moment so I won't have to worry about it.
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Re: GC's Yahoo! H2H League 2017 Constitutional Convention
« Reply #39 on: September 01, 2017, 10:20:13 AM »

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Do we have a tentative draft date?

Poll is up in the main league thread for whether to hold the draft on Wed. or Thur of next week.

It will stay open until 11 pm tonight.


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Re: GC's Yahoo! H2H League 2017 Constitutional Convention
« Reply #40 on: September 21, 2017, 09:31:49 AM »

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now that the draft is over I'd like to finish things up here.

Dino's amendment was seconded and thrided so I'll add it to the original post as an amendment we'll vote on:

Proposed Amendment #1:
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Once a draft pick is traded, it becomes the absolute property of the acquiring team. Any penalties levied against the prior team for failing the games played audit, will not be set against the traded draft pick.

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Re: GC's Yahoo! H2H League 2017 Constitutional Convention
« Reply #41 on: September 21, 2017, 09:40:13 AM »

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I'd also like to make 2 other proposals based on Yahoo!'s settings:


Proposed Amendment #2:
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Playoff ties will be broken using by overall playoff seed





Reasoning: Our constitution states that when something is not covered we'll use the default Yahoo! settings. So I'd like to make this formalized.

I just saw that there are 2 options for breaking a tie in a playoff series:

- overall playoff seed or
- by the team with the better regular season head-to-head record against their playoff opponent.

In as deep a league like where we only play each other once (and sometimes another team 2x) using head-to-head record from a single week (which is, of course, subject to variance, luck, IRL schedules, fluke injuries, etc.) makes less sense to me than overall record. Whereas overall record (i.e. playoff seed) is a much better gauge of a season-long success.

(In the NBA where you might play another team 3-5 times h2h record makes more sense.)

Theorhetically in our league a team could lose a single category all year, go 209-1-10 (i.e. undefeated in 18 weeks, and 0-1-10 in the other week), get the top seed and lose a 5-5 series (even in the title round) against the #8 seed who happened to be the team to beat them 1-0-10.

That seems out of whack.... IMO ties should go to the team with the better overall record (ie. higher playoff seed).

I don't know that we've ever had this problem but would rather avoid it.
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Re: GC's Yahoo! H2H League 2017 Constitutional Convention
« Reply #42 on: September 21, 2017, 09:49:37 AM »

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Proposed Amendment #3:
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When Yahoo! does not allow for a 19-week schedule (i.e. one where each team plays every other team only once) the second matchup shall be determined by the previous season's record where #1 will play #2 twice, #3 will play #4 twice, etc.





Reasoning: Our constitution states that when something is not covered we'll use the default Yahoo! settings. So I'd also like to make this formalized.

Again I'd prefer to move away from randomness in determining the outcome of the league.

Rather than a good team, randomly, getting to play the worst team twice the "best" teams should have a harder schedule and have to play the other "best" teams twice to even things out.

I realize a team from the previous season can jump or drop in the standings the following year, but previous year's record still seems like a better method to determine a 2nd matchup (and it's relatively easy to do in the league settings.)

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Re: GC's Yahoo! H2H League 2017 Constitutional Convention
« Reply #43 on: September 21, 2017, 09:59:14 AM »

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Proposed Amendment #3:
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When Yahoo! does not allow for a 19-week schedule (i.e. one where each team plays every other team only once) the second matchup shall be determined by the previous season's record where #1 will play #2 twice, #3 will play #4 twice, etc.





Reasoning: Our constitution states that when something is not covered we'll use the default Yahoo! settings. So I'd also like to make this formalized.

Again I'd prefer to move away from randomness in determining the outcome of the league.

Rather than a good team, randomly, getting to play the worst team twice the "best" teams should have a harder schedule and have to play the other "best" teams twice to even things out.

I realize a team from the previous season can jump or drop in the standings the following year, but previous year's record still seems like a better method to determine a 2nd matchup (and it's relatively easy to do in the league settings.)

I'll second this but contingent on clarifying what #1, #2, etc means. Are we talking about regular season record or playoff finish (which is what Yahoo defaults to using for end of season rankings)?

Re: GC's Yahoo! H2H League 2017 Constitutional Convention
« Reply #44 on: September 21, 2017, 10:11:15 AM »

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Proposed Amendment #3:
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When Yahoo! does not allow for a 19-week schedule (i.e. one where each team plays every other team only once) the second matchup shall be determined by the previous season's record — where #1 will play #2 twice, #3 will play #4 twice, etc.





Reasoning: Our constitution states that when something is not covered we'll use the default Yahoo! settings. So I'd also like to make this formalized.

Again I'd prefer to move away from randomness in determining the outcome of the league.

Rather than a good team, randomly, getting to play the worst team twice — the "best" teams should have a harder schedule and have to play the other "best" teams twice to even things out.

I realize a team from the previous season can jump or drop in the standings the following year, but previous year's record still seems like a better method to determine a 2nd matchup (and it's relatively easy to do in the league settings.)

I'll second this but contingent on clarifying what #1, #2, etc means. Are we talking about regular season record or playoff finish (which is what Yahoo defaults to using for end of season rankings)?

As I put in the amendment text I am proposing regular season record.

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