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Kyrie trade would open doors for younger players
« on: August 07, 2017, 06:45:01 PM »

Offline bostonsbrash

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IT, Crowder and possibly the Lakers pick is well worth Kyrie

1st it gives us a guard who has IMO the better ability to space and create all while scoring at will

2nd trading Crowder opens the door for Brown and Tatum to grow their game

Kyrie
Brown
Hayward
Morris
Horford

I can see that lineup taking a big step for Boston next season

Brown starting would be great and Tatum possibly growing into that 6th man roll would be much desired

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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2017, 06:55:26 PM »

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Or.. you know.. just trading Crowder alone (maybe w/draft pick) for an upgrade elsewhere could help with that too.

And Isaiah had the better season last year, so I really don't see how trading him + others in a package for Irving really helps... Isaiah also fits CBS system better than Irving.
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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2017, 07:03:22 PM »

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I only see Ainge trading IT only if what they offer him he's not happy. I could see a deal earlier than later in the season.
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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2017, 07:04:14 PM »

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Well before everyone that piles on with the fact that they're at least not far apart and the additional assets huge in trading for Irving, let's at least recognize the hardest step is going from very good to great, and kudos for being impatient and willing to risk it for no real reason.

Swap point guards and force our youth out too soon, and we still go down 4-1 to Cleveland after a good season. And no chance against GS. We wouldn't get much better if at all trading one offensive minded all star PG for another.  So ride the horse we got. No moves just to make a move.

If Smart + Crowder & picks brings star talent at PF, then there's something interesting.

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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2017, 07:08:40 PM »

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IMO Kyrie is superior offensively and hasnt hit his peak yet.
 
Those young players (Brown,Tatum and possibly OJ) need to play and grow. Boston cant keep everyone.

Im sure Kyrie can fit the system.

The future is brighter with this trade














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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2017, 07:30:06 PM »

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Quote from: bostonsbrash on August 07, 2017, 07:08:40 PM
IMO Kyrie is superior offensively and hasnt hit his peak yet.
 
Those young players (Brown,Tatum and possibly OJ) need to play and grow. Boston cant keep everyone.

Im sure Kyrie can fit the system.

The future is brighter with this trade

I agree, BUT......

Cleveland is stronger/deeper this year and IT AND Crowder and Rozier could make LeBaby stay.

On top of that, trading the guy H and H came here to play with in IT?

Bad, Bad juju.

No thanks.
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2017, 07:37:34 PM »

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Quote from: csfansince60s on August 07, 2017, 07:30:06 PM
Quote from: bostonsbrash on August 07, 2017, 07:08:40 PM
IMO Kyrie is superior offensively and hasnt hit his peak yet.
 
Those young players (Brown,Tatum and possibly OJ) need to play and grow. Boston cant keep everyone.

Im sure Kyrie can fit the system.

The future is brighter with this trade

I agree, BUT......

Cleveland is stronger/deeper this year and IT AND Crowder and Rozier could make LeBaby stay.

On top of that, trading the guy H and H came here to play with in IT?

Bad, Bad juju.

No thanks.
I'm sure they'd welcome it love IT but Kyrie is better
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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2017, 08:01:41 PM »

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Quote from: j804 on August 07, 2017, 07:37:34 PM
Quote from: csfansince60s on August 07, 2017, 07:30:06 PM
Quote from: bostonsbrash on August 07, 2017, 07:08:40 PM
IMO Kyrie is superior offensively and hasnt hit his peak yet.
 
Those young players (Brown,Tatum and possibly OJ) need to play and grow. Boston cant keep everyone.

Im sure Kyrie can fit the system.

The future is brighter with this trade

I agree, BUT......

Cleveland is stronger/deeper this year and IT AND Crowder and Rozier could make LeBaby stay.

On top of that, trading the guy H and H came here to play with in IT?

Bad, Bad juju.

No thanks.
I'm sure they'd welcome it love IT but Kyrie is better

Irrelevant. Need to fill other holes before any marginal improvement at PG makes a difference.
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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2017, 08:07:11 PM »

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How many times do we have to go over this?
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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2017, 08:45:17 PM »

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We're not trading IT for Kyrie. Let's move on people.
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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2017, 10:01:24 PM »

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Thomas, Crowder, Rozier and maybe Boston's 2018 1st is a reasonable trade for both teams.

That also means Boston can keep Smart next summer (which it can't do if it keeps Thomas, especially with Crowder and Rozier on the roster). 
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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2017, 10:23:50 PM »

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Quote from: footey on August 07, 2017, 08:45:17 PM
We're not trading IT for Kyrie. Let's move on people.

The Cavs are not trading with their main competitor in The East.
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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2017, 10:58:43 PM »

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Quote from: Moranis on August 07, 2017, 10:01:24 PM
Thomas, Crowder, Rozier and maybe Boston's 2018 1st is a reasonable trade for both teams.

That also means Boston can keep Smart next summer (which it can't do if it keeps Thomas, especially with Crowder and Rozier on the roster).

Yeah, Thomas, Crowder and Rozier works on the trade checker. Irving has a better contract than IT will get. $18-20 M for the next 3-4 years. 

Basically, they can fit a third star under the cap with this deal for the next few years.

Ainge knows that, or he wouldn't be interested.
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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2017, 11:03:33 PM »

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...and the Lakers pick?  That's whacked.
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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2017, 11:17:34 PM »

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Not sure why so many are being completely unwilling to consider trading IT for Kyrie.

- Kyrie just turned 25
- he's arguably going to get better
- is a better long term piece than IT bevause of his age and primarily because of his contract.
- contract would let us add snither significant piece.
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