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Idea for Trading Rozier
« on: July 27, 2017, 10:53:10 PM »

Offline OHCeltic

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Trade Rozier to Denver for Barton

Barton is on a 1 year deal and upgrades the team overall.

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Re: Idea for Trading Rozier
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2017, 11:57:19 PM »

Offline CelticsFan166

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I like Barton, but do we really want to trade one of our few remaining ball handlers for yet another wing? Our roster is imbalanced now, this just makes it that much worse. That said, I've always liked Barton and would have done this trade last season, but as of now it just wouldn't make sense IMO

Re: Idea for Trading Rozier
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2017, 12:15:32 AM »

Offline action781

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I like Barton, but do we really want to trade one of our few remaining ball handlers for yet another wing? Our roster is imbalanced now, this just makes it that much worse. That said, I've always liked Barton and would have done this trade last season, but as of now it just wouldn't make sense IMO

"Few remaining ballhandlers"?  We have two more ballhandlers signed than we did last season by adding Hayward and Larkin and not losing any.  Losing Rozier would have an impact for sure, but I think Smart, Hayward, and Larkin (in pinches as needed) can make that up.  Rozier did only play 17 min per game last season.
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Re: Idea for Trading Rozier
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2017, 01:54:29 AM »

Offline crimson_stallion

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I like Barton, but do we really want to trade one of our few remaining ball handlers for yet another wing? Our roster is imbalanced now, this just makes it that much worse. That said, I've always liked Barton and would have done this trade last season, but as of now it just wouldn't make sense IMO

"Few remaining ballhandlers"?  We have two more ballhandlers signed than we did last season by adding Hayward and Larkin and not losing any.  Losing Rozier would have an impact for sure, but I think Smart, Hayward, and Larkin (in pinches as needed) can make that up.  Rozier did only play 17 min per game last season.

I doubt Larkin will see anything more than garbage minutes, and Hayward as a ball handler only makes up for the loss of Bradley.

Re: Idea for Trading Rozier
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2017, 02:33:06 AM »

Offline KG Living Legend

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I like Barton, but do we really want to trade one of our few remaining ball handlers for yet another wing? Our roster is imbalanced now, this just makes it that much worse. That said, I've always liked Barton and would have done this trade last season, but as of now it just wouldn't make sense IMO

"Few remaining ballhandlers"?  We have two more ballhandlers signed than we did last season by adding Hayward and Larkin and not losing any.  Losing Rozier would have an impact for sure, but I think Smart, Hayward, and Larkin (in pinches as needed) can make that up.  Rozier did only play 17 min per game last season.

I doubt Larkin will see anything more than garbage minutes, and Hayward as a ball handler only makes up for the loss of Bradley.


 To be fair, Hayward is a pretty big upgrade to Bradley, handling and passing.

Re: Idea for Trading Rozier
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2017, 03:07:31 AM »

Offline CelticsFanFromNYC

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For all we know, Rozier might be 2nd string right now.

Re: Idea for Trading Rozier
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2017, 08:08:31 AM »

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Rozier is the fall back for losing Smart next summer. I doubt he gets traded unless we commit to extending Smart this autumn. His salary is pretty minimal in the grand scheme of things as well.

Re: Idea for Trading Rozier
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2017, 08:50:24 AM »

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I like Barton, but do we really want to trade one of our few remaining ball handlers for yet another wing? Our roster is imbalanced now, this just makes it that much worse. That said, I've always liked Barton and would have done this trade last season, but as of now it just wouldn't make sense IMO

"Few remaining ballhandlers"?  We have two more ballhandlers signed than we did last season by adding Hayward and Larkin and not losing any.  Losing Rozier would have an impact for sure, but I think Smart, Hayward, and Larkin (in pinches as needed) can make that up.  Rozier did only play 17 min per game last season.

I doubt Larkin will see anything more than garbage minutes, and Hayward as a ball handler only makes up for the loss of Bradley.

I don't know what Avery Bradley you've been watching over the years, but you've got to be a pretty rare breed around here to consider him a ballhandler.
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Re: Idea for Trading Rozier
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2017, 08:55:25 AM »

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I'm going to keep my eye out for a Rozier+Morris for JaMychal Green S&T in September, but otherwise I don't really see Rozier getting traded.  He's a cheap option the next two years, and his salary is too low to make a difference in most trades.
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Re: Idea for Trading Rozier
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2017, 09:21:27 AM »

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I'm going to keep my eye out for a Rozier+Morris for JaMychal Green S&T in September, but otherwise I don't really see Rozier getting traded.  He's a cheap option the next two years, and his salary is too low to make a difference in most trades.

I would love to see that S&T!

Re: Idea for Trading Rozier
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2017, 10:11:50 AM »

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I'm going to keep my eye out for a Rozier+Morris for JaMychal Green S&T in September, but otherwise I don't really see Rozier getting traded.  He's a cheap option the next two years, and his salary is too low to make a difference in most trades.

I would love to see that S&T!

I would too.  It's very low probability, but if the Celtics were so inclined they could give Green approximately what Olynyk got (excluding Olynyk's incentives).  Morris and Rozier is very good compensation for Memphis if that price is higher than they'd like to go (or that length longer).  It could add up to $3.5 million in payroll next year, which might be a problem as the Celtics keep an eye on next year's tax.
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Re: Idea for Trading Rozier
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2017, 10:43:01 AM »

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I'm going to keep my eye out for a Rozier+Morris for JaMychal Green S&T in September, but otherwise I don't really see Rozier getting traded.  He's a cheap option the next two years, and his salary is too low to make a difference in most trades.

I would love to see that S&T!

I would too.  It's very low probability, but if the Celtics were so inclined they could give Green approximately what Olynyk got (excluding Olynyk's incentives).  Morris and Rozier is very good compensation for Memphis if that price is higher than they'd like to go (or that length longer).  It could add up to $3.5 million in payroll next year, which might be a problem as the Celtics keep an eye on next year's tax.

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Re: Idea for Trading Rozier
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2017, 10:57:09 AM »

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I'm going to keep my eye out for a Rozier+Morris for JaMychal Green S&T in September, but otherwise I don't really see Rozier getting traded.  He's a cheap option the next two years, and his salary is too low to make a difference in most trades.

I would love to see that S&T!

I would too.  It's very low probability, but if the Celtics were so inclined they could give Green approximately what Olynyk got (excluding Olynyk's incentives).  Morris and Rozier is very good compensation for Memphis if that price is higher than they'd like to go (or that length longer).  It could add up to $3.5 million in payroll next year, which might be a problem as the Celtics keep an eye on next year's tax.

When can Marcus Morris be traded?

Early September.  Two months from whenever the Bradley trade was officially processed -- don't know off the top of my head when that actually occurred, since there was a delayed announcement and I was on vacation.  September 7th rings a bell.
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