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Re: Per Windhorst: Kyrie asked to be traded last week
« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2017, 04:16:00 PM »

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Was just getting ready to post this.

Man, this is crazy. Does Cleveland even make it to the season with the big 3 intact?

With everything surrounding the Cavs right now, it seriously makes you wonder whether Danny should inquire about nabbing Lebron, who at this point looks good as gone next year anyways.

I mean, neither Lebron nor Kyrie has a no-trade clause, and with how things look now it's unlikely that either of them will be Cavs next year. At this point, why not trade both of them and stockpile the mountain of assets that you could get for them?

Lebron would be a pretty ideal fit at the 4 for us, and I'm sure Danny would give up quite a few of his top assets for him.

It would be best for both the Cavs and LeBron long-term to trade LeBron now.  He's leaving Cleveland, so you get what you can long run.  And LeBron doesn't look like a villain this time. 

But short term, it's terrible for the Cavs, because it could literally be 30 years before they have another chance at winning a title if LeBron is moved this year.  Sometimes it's best to gonfornthe short-term.

I think Phoenix is a real nice partner for Cleveland for Irving.  They could send back Bledsoe, some prospect, and a pick or two.  Irving next to Booker is a suburb scoring backcourt, and they can hide Irving's lack of defense with Jackson.

Meanwhile Bledsoe could be a decent fit in Cleveland this year, allowing them to continue to compete this year, while starting to build up their long-term assets with whatever else they get back for Irving.  Maybe it would be enough to convince LeBron to stay.

I was thinking about this too. Lebron and Bledsoe are buddies and both are repped by Rich Paul.
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Re: Per Windhorst: Kyrie asked to be traded last week
« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2017, 04:16:38 PM »

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wow

I was really surprised when I first read this...

My second reaction was what Who said: isnt it a bit late for that?

I think the market would have been better some weeks ago when more players were available. saltlover what do you think?

Re: Per Windhorst: Kyrie asked to be traded last week
« Reply #32 on: July 21, 2017, 04:16:51 PM »

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Goes to show you that winning alone doesn't necessarily solve ALL problems, and that just because you're playing alongside Lebron, it doesn't mean you're gonna love it.

Kyrie genuinely believes the Earth is flat and thinks our education system is doing nothing but lying to our youth...so...that guy can go kick rocks.

Re: Per Windhorst: Kyrie asked to be traded last week
« Reply #33 on: July 21, 2017, 04:16:51 PM »

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Why would Cleveland care if Irving wants to be traded?  doesn't he still have three years?   

Re: Per Windhorst: Kyrie asked to be traded last week
« Reply #34 on: July 21, 2017, 04:16:58 PM »

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Funny how everyone gives Ainge and C's fans hell for "not doing anything" this offseason.

Look at Cleveland. No George. No Butler. Can't trade Love. Irving wants out. Got Calderon.

Now Irving may want out and Griffin is gone for them  :laugh:

Ainge watching like...  8)
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Re: Per Windhorst: Kyrie asked to be traded last week
« Reply #35 on: July 21, 2017, 04:19:28 PM »

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Was just getting ready to post this.

Man, this is crazy. Does Cleveland even make it to the season with the big 3 intact?

With everything surrounding the Cavs right now, it seriously makes you wonder whether Danny should inquire about nabbing Lebron, who at this point looks good as gone next year anyways.

I mean, neither Lebron nor Kyrie has a no-trade clause, and with how things look now it's unlikely that either of them will be Cavs next year. At this point, why not trade both of them and stockpile the mountain of assets that you could get for them?

Lebron would be a pretty ideal fit at the 4 for us, and I'm sure Danny would give up quite a few of his top assets for him.

It would be best for both the Cavs and LeBron long-term to trade LeBron now.  He's leaving Cleveland, so you get what you can long run.  And LeBron doesn't look like a villain this time. 

But short term, it's terrible for the Cavs, because it could literally be 30 years before they have another chance at winning a title if LeBron is moved this year.  Sometimes it's best to gonfornthe short-term.

I think Phoenix is a real nice partner for Cleveland for Irving.  They could send back Bledsoe, some prospect, and a pick or two.  Irving next to Booker is a suburb scoring backcourt, and they can hide Irving's lack of defense with Jackson.

Meanwhile Bledsoe could be a decent fit in Cleveland this year, allowing them to continue to compete this year, while starting to build up their long-term assets with whatever else they get back for Irving.  Maybe it would be enough to convince LeBron to stay.

I was thinking about this too. Lebron and Bledsoe are buddies and both are repped by Rich Paul.

Suns just added Lebron's BFF James Jones to the front office. I think their thinking was more along the lines of nab LeBron next summer. But this might be the next best thing..

Re: Per Windhorst: Kyrie asked to be traded last week
« Reply #36 on: July 21, 2017, 04:23:43 PM »

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This also kind of explains the interested in D.Rose. The timing coincides with Irving's meeting, maybe they're thinking of trading Irving for a package that doesn't include a PG and they think D.Rose could a "replacement"??

Misguided, but still makes more sense than thinking they could play together.
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Re: Per Windhorst: Kyrie asked to be traded last week
« Reply #37 on: July 21, 2017, 04:25:01 PM »

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Re: Per Windhorst: Kyrie asked to be traded last week
« Reply #38 on: July 21, 2017, 04:25:22 PM »

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wow

I was really surprised when I first read this...

My second reaction was what Who said: isnt it a bit late for that?

I think the market would have been better some weeks ago when more players were available. saltlover what do you think?

I think Phoenix has been patiently waiting.

Re: Per Windhorst: Kyrie asked to be traded last week
« Reply #39 on: July 21, 2017, 04:25:50 PM »

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Re: Per Windhorst: Kyrie asked to be traded last week
« Reply #40 on: July 21, 2017, 04:26:14 PM »

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There's a rumor out there that Irving would consider the Spurs.

That's actually a pretty interesting trade partner.
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Re: Per Windhorst: Kyrie asked to be traded last week
« Reply #41 on: July 21, 2017, 04:27:20 PM »

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wow

I was really surprised when I first read this...

My second reaction was what Who said: isnt it a bit late for that?

I think the market would have been better some weeks ago when more players were available. saltlover what do you think?

I think Phoenix has been patiently waiting.

Phoenix sends Bledsoe+ Knight+ plus their first this year for Kyrie and filler??

Re: Per Windhorst: Kyrie asked to be traded last week
« Reply #42 on: July 21, 2017, 04:30:54 PM »

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Kyrie wants to be the man while Durant wants to be the ....

Celts should trade for Kyrie  ;D

Re: Per Windhorst: Kyrie asked to be traded last week
« Reply #43 on: July 21, 2017, 04:31:23 PM »

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There's a rumor out there that Irving would consider the Spurs.

That's actually a pretty interesting trade partner.

Spurs can't really send anything back that makes sense for the Cavs, unless they find a third team that's willing to take Aldridge and send something enticing to the Cavs.
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Re: Per Windhorst: Kyrie asked to be traded last week
« Reply #44 on: July 21, 2017, 04:31:56 PM »

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wow

I was really surprised when I first read this...

My second reaction was what Who said: isnt it a bit late for that?

I think the market would have been better some weeks ago when more players were available. saltlover what do you think?

I think Phoenix has been patiently waiting.

Phoenix sends Bledsoe+ Knight+ plus their first this year for Kyrie and filler??

Bledsoe, one of Chriss or Bender, and a 1st I think is the deal.   Knight is overpaid trash who should cost picks to get rid of.