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Re: Jackson released
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2017, 04:13:01 PM »

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Is Danny being a cheapazz or does he have no choice really?

Jackson is not great but is a decent depth player .... . SL celts have looked better when Jackson has played regardless of his production

If Ainge needs the money to lock up Semi , fine

but if he could have kept both...then why cut Jackson.

If Jackson is your depth, you are in major trouble. How do you get he is a decent depth player? Based on what exactly?

The team lacks PG depth

IT4 becomes injured,  Rozier becomes injured etc. 

Its no joke how much mid depth this team has right now ....  why not try to sign Semi to a two way deal?

Or sign him to a cheaper deal vs near 1st round money....   

Nader, Semi would have probably taken a 800 k a year deal, but instead you need to pay double that?

Re: Jackson released
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2017, 04:15:27 PM »

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So at this point, we should start assuming Semi is about to get a 4 year deal based on the above.

https://twitter.com/bostonsports_15/status/886307312012591105
So I guess the deal is "semi"- guaranteed. Haha.

Re: Jackson released
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2017, 04:25:43 PM »

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Is Danny being a cheapazz or does he have no choice really?

Jackson is not great but is a decent depth player .... . SL celts have looked better when Jackson has played regardless of his production

If Ainge needs the money to lock up Semi , fine

but if he could have kept both...then why cut Jackson.

If Jackson is your depth, you are in major trouble. How do you get he is a decent depth player? Based on what exactly?

The team lacks PG depth

IT4 becomes injured,  Rozier becomes injured etc. 

Its no joke how much mid depth this team has right now ....  why not try to sign Semi to a two way deal?

Or sign him to a cheaper deal vs near 1st round money....   

Nader, Semi would have probably taken a 800 k a year deal, but instead you need to pay double that?

The team has three point guards on the 15-man roster. That's standard. They'll carry a fourth on a two-way deal in the event injuries strike, and in the unlikely event that Boston should need five point guards to field a team then you've probably got enough players injured that you've been granted an injury exception to bring someone in on a vet minimum deal. They're fine.

Re: Jackson released
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2017, 04:29:10 PM »

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Is Danny being a cheapazz or does he have no choice really?

Jackson is not great but is a decent depth player .... . SL celts have looked better when Jackson has played regardless of his production

If Ainge needs the money to lock up Semi , fine

but if he could have kept both...then why cut Jackson.

If Jackson is your depth, you are in major trouble. How do you get he is a decent depth player? Based on what exactly?

The team lacks PG depth

IT4 becomes injured,  Rozier becomes injured etc. 

Its no joke how much mid depth this team has right now ....  why not try to sign Semi to a two way deal?

Or sign him to a cheaper deal vs near 1st round money....   

Nader, Semi would have probably taken a 800 k a year deal, but instead you need to pay double that?
Most teams keep 3 PGs. Thats all the depth you need. Not only that but Gordon can also bring the ball up and initiate the offense. Heck, the offense is probably going to run through Horford to maximize the chanes of space opening up for IT and Gordon.

The Cs decided Jackson wasn't needed and/or that he wasn't as good as the rookies Ainge is bringing in this year. Its a good move.

Re: Jackson released
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2017, 04:34:32 PM »

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So after Jackson's release, that leaves 3 ball handlers on the roster: IT, Rozier, Smart.

Kind of thin, no? Especially, with IT's hip still questionable. Unless this is a sign IT is on his way to being 100% healthy.

They have 3 pgs on the team, which is normal. Hayward can also handle the ball.

I'm more concerned about rebounding/interior defense than I am ballhandling.

Re: Jackson released
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2017, 04:37:52 PM »

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Yes, we may be thin regarding ballhandlers. We don't know how long will Isaiah be out, we don't want to rush him once he is recovered, we lost Avery who could be an insurance PG and now we are waiving Jackson.

We are one injury away (Rozier or Smart) from beginning the season with a ballhandler in the entire roster. And no, Hayward or Jaylen aren't ballhandlers; they are wings. The fact they have dribbling or handling abilities doesn't turn them into de-facto PGs.

Re: Jackson released
« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2017, 04:38:02 PM »

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Is Danny being a cheapazz or does he have no choice really?

Jackson is not great but is a decent depth player .... . SL celts have looked better when Jackson has played regardless of his production

If Ainge needs the money to lock up Semi , fine

but if he could have kept both...then why cut Jackson.

If Jackson is your depth, you are in major trouble. How do you get he is a decent depth player? Based on what exactly?

The team lacks PG depth

IT4 becomes injured,  Rozier becomes injured etc. 

Its no joke how much mid depth this team has right now ....  why not try to sign Semi to a two way deal?

Or sign him to a cheaper deal vs near 1st round money....   

Nader, Semi would have probably taken a 800 k a year deal, but instead you need to pay double that?

The team has three point guards on the 15-man roster. That's standard. They'll carry a fourth on a two-way deal in the event injuries strike, and in the unlikely event that Boston should need five point guards to field a team then you've probably got enough players injured that you've been granted an injury exception to bring someone in on a vet minimum deal. They're fine.
I wonder if that's Jabari Bird, based on his good SL play.

Have to say, I'm a but surprised because Demetrious was having a decent SL.  Was his height an issue?

Re: Jackson released
« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2017, 04:50:47 PM »

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Is Danny being a cheapazz or does he have no choice really?

Jackson is not great but is a decent depth player .... . SL celts have looked better when Jackson has played regardless of his production

If Ainge needs the money to lock up Semi , fine

but if he could have kept both...then why cut Jackson.

If Jackson is your depth, you are in major trouble. How do you get he is a decent depth player? Based on what exactly?

The team lacks PG depth

IT4 becomes injured,  Rozier becomes injured etc. 

Its no joke how much mid depth this team has right now ....  why not try to sign Semi to a two way deal?

Or sign him to a cheaper deal vs near 1st round money....   

Nader, Semi would have probably taken a 800 k a year deal, but instead you need to pay double that?

The team has three point guards on the 15-man roster. That's standard. They'll carry a fourth on a two-way deal in the event injuries strike, and in the unlikely event that Boston should need five point guards to field a team then you've probably got enough players injured that you've been granted an injury exception to bring someone in on a vet minimum deal. They're fine.
I wonder if that's Jabari Bird, based on his good SL play.

Have to say, I'm a but surprised because Demetrious was having a decent SL.  Was his height an issue?

My guess is that it's already been arranged that Allen and Jabari Bird will take two-way contracts this year - I'd be shocked if Ainge hadn't already put out feelers with the agents on who'd be willing to be stashed on a two-way when planning who to take with their two late second-rounders this year. The only complicating factor is if they'd rather carry one guard and one big for emergency call-up purposes instead of two guards, but with (in no order) Horford-Ziziz-Baynes-Theis-Yabsuele plus some wings who can put in time at the 4 they're probably fine there. Maybe one of Bird or Allen goes overseas and someone like Landen Lucas gets the last two-way deal, but I doubt it.

Re: Jackson released
« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2017, 04:55:57 PM »

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Is Danny being a cheapazz or does he have no choice really?

Jackson is not great but is a decent depth player .... . SL celts have looked better when Jackson has played regardless of his production

If Ainge needs the money to lock up Semi , fine

but if he could have kept both...then why cut Jackson.

If Jackson is your depth, you are in major trouble. How do you get he is a decent depth player? Based on what exactly?

The team lacks PG depth

IT4 becomes injured,  Rozier becomes injured etc. 

Its no joke how much mid depth this team has right now ....  why not try to sign Semi to a two way deal?

Or sign him to a cheaper deal vs near 1st round money....   

Nader, Semi would have probably taken a 800 k a year deal, but instead you need to pay double that?

The team has three point guards on the 15-man roster. That's standard. They'll carry a fourth on a two-way deal in the event injuries strike, and in the unlikely event that Boston should need five point guards to field a team then you've probably got enough players injured that you've been granted an injury exception to bring someone in on a vet minimum deal. They're fine.
I wonder if that's Jabari Bird, based on his good SL play.

Have to say, I'm a but surprised because Demetrious was having a decent SL.  Was his height an issue?

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Re: Jackson released
« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2017, 04:55:59 PM »

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Is Danny being a cheapazz or does he have no choice really?

Jackson is not great but is a decent depth player .... . SL celts have looked better when Jackson has played regardless of his production

If Ainge needs the money to lock up Semi , fine

but if he could have kept both...then why cut Jackson.

If Jackson is your depth, you are in major trouble. How do you get he is a decent depth player? Based on what exactly?

The team lacks PG depth

IT4 becomes injured,  Rozier becomes injured etc. 

Its no joke how much mid depth this team has right now ....  why not try to sign Semi to a two way deal?

Or sign him to a cheaper deal vs near 1st round money....   

Nader, Semi would have probably taken a 800 k a year deal, but instead you need to pay double that?

The team has three point guards on the 15-man roster. That's standard. They'll carry a fourth on a two-way deal in the event injuries strike, and in the unlikely event that Boston should need five point guards to field a team then you've probably got enough players injured that you've been granted an injury exception to bring someone in on a vet minimum deal. They're fine.
I wonder if that's Jabari Bird, based on his good SL play.

Have to say, I'm a but surprised because Demetrious was having a decent SL.  Was his height an issue?

My guess is that it's already been arranged that Allen and Jabari Bird will take two-way contracts this year - I'd be shocked if Ainge hadn't already put out feelers with the agents on who'd be willing to be stashed on a two-way when planning who to take with their two late second-rounders this year. The only complicating factor is if they'd rather carry one guard and one big for emergency call-up purposes instead of two guards, but with (in no order) Horford-Ziziz-Baynes-Theis-Yabsuele plus some wings who can put in time at the 4 they're probably fine there. Maybe one of Bird or Allen goes overseas and someone like Landen Lucas gets the last two-way deal, but I doubt it.
I doubt it too.  Lucas and Roscoe Allen are "walk-on" players whereas the other 2 guys were drafted.  I agree it seems there plenty of front-court depth esp if Theis and Yabusele both make the team.  Theis seems like a certainty, but I suppose there's still a chance that Yabs stays overseas one more year.

Re: Jackson released
« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2017, 05:03:34 PM »

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Is Danny being a cheapazz or does he have no choice really?

Jackson is not great but is a decent depth player .... . SL celts have looked better when Jackson has played regardless of his production

If Ainge needs the money to lock up Semi , fine

but if he could have kept both...then why cut Jackson.

If Jackson is your depth, you are in major trouble. How do you get he is a decent depth player? Based on what exactly?

The team lacks PG depth

IT4 becomes injured,  Rozier becomes injured etc. 

Its no joke how much mid depth this team has right now ....  why not try to sign Semi to a two way deal?

Or sign him to a cheaper deal vs near 1st round money....   

Nader, Semi would have probably taken a 800 k a year deal, but instead you need to pay double that?

The team has three point guards on the 15-man roster. That's standard. They'll carry a fourth on a two-way deal in the event injuries strike, and in the unlikely event that Boston should need five point guards to field a team then you've probably got enough players injured that you've been granted an injury exception to bring someone in on a vet minimum deal. They're fine.
I wonder if that's Jabari Bird, based on his good SL play.

Have to say, I'm a but surprised because Demetrious was having a decent SL.  Was his height an issue?

My guess is that it's already been arranged that Allen and Jabari Bird will take two-way contracts this year - I'd be shocked if Ainge hadn't already put out feelers with the agents on who'd be willing to be stashed on a two-way when planning who to take with their two late second-rounders this year. The only complicating factor is if they'd rather carry one guard and one big for emergency call-up purposes instead of two guards, but with (in no order) Horford-Ziziz-Baynes-Theis-Yabsuele plus some wings who can put in time at the 4 they're probably fine there. Maybe one of Bird or Allen goes overseas and someone like Landen Lucas gets the last two-way deal, but I doubt it.
I doubt it too.  Lucas and Roscoe Allen are "walk-on" players whereas the other 2 guys were drafted.  I agree it seems there plenty of front-court depth esp if Theis and Yabusele both make the team.  Theis seems like a certainty, but I suppose there's still a chance that Yabs stays overseas one more year.

If Yabusele would've stayed overseas, there wouldn't be a need to stretch Jackson's contract (or waive if for that matter I'd think).

Re: Jackson released
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2017, 05:06:09 PM »

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Is Danny being a cheapazz or does he have no choice really?

Jackson is not great but is a decent depth player .... . SL celts have looked better when Jackson has played regardless of his production

If Ainge needs the money to lock up Semi , fine

but if he could have kept both...then why cut Jackson.

If Jackson is your depth, you are in major trouble. How do you get he is a decent depth player? Based on what exactly?

The team lacks PG depth

IT4 becomes injured,  Rozier becomes injured etc. 

Its no joke how much mid depth this team has right now ....  why not try to sign Semi to a two way deal?

Or sign him to a cheaper deal vs near 1st round money....   

Nader, Semi would have probably taken a 800 k a year deal, but instead you need to pay double that?

The team has three point guards on the 15-man roster. That's standard. They'll carry a fourth on a two-way deal in the event injuries strike, and in the unlikely event that Boston should need five point guards to field a team then you've probably got enough players injured that you've been granted an injury exception to bring someone in on a vet minimum deal. They're fine.
I wonder if that's Jabari Bird, based on his good SL play.

Have to say, I'm a but surprised because Demetrious was having a decent SL.  Was his height an issue?

My guess is that it's already been arranged that Allen and Jabari Bird will take two-way contracts this year - I'd be shocked if Ainge hadn't already put out feelers with the agents on who'd be willing to be stashed on a two-way when planning who to take with their two late second-rounders this year. The only complicating factor is if they'd rather carry one guard and one big for emergency call-up purposes instead of two guards, but with (in no order) Horford-Ziziz-Baynes-Theis-Yabsuele plus some wings who can put in time at the 4 they're probably fine there. Maybe one of Bird or Allen goes overseas and someone like Landen Lucas gets the last two-way deal, but I doubt it.
I doubt it too.  Lucas and Roscoe Allen are "walk-on" players whereas the other 2 guys were drafted.  I agree it seems there plenty of front-court depth esp if Theis and Yabusele both make the team.  Theis seems like a certainty, but I suppose there's still a chance that Yabs stays overseas one more year.

If Yabusele would've stayed overseas, there wouldn't be a need to stretch Jackson's contract (or waive if for that matter I'd think).

True, but I'd rather get Yabusele in-house than have five point guards available between the 17 roster spots. It also sounds like Yabusele was under the impression he'd be in-house starting this year as well, and technically he's the one holding the cards here - Boston has to offer him his rookie-scale contract or renounce his rights, they can't force him to be stashed again.

Re: Jackson released
« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2017, 05:16:24 PM »

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I think 2-way contracts means you can only stay with the big club for 45 days, so a 2 way isn't going to help much if we need someone to play while someone is out with injuries. It says 45 days and not games so you would be wasting those days when they have to practice. I bet the guys that get those are going to because they plan on never using but will use the days to allow them to practice with the Celts (Bird type guys/I hope Rosco Allen-Waffles is one).
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Re: Jackson released
« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2017, 05:20:01 PM »

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I think 2-way contracts means you can only stay with the big club for 45 days, so a 2 way isn't going to help much if we need someone to play while someone is out with injuries. It says 45 days and not games so you would be wasting those days when they have to practice. I bet the guys that get those are going to because they plan on never using but will use the days to allow them to practice with the Celts (Bird type guys/I hope Rosco Allen-Waffles is one).

Honestly, Demetrius Jackson was not touching the floor for this team, with or without injuries.

Re: Jackson released
« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2017, 05:20:41 PM »

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I think 2-way contracts means you can only stay with the big club for 45 days, so a 2 way isn't going to help much if we need someone to play while someone is out with injuries. It says 45 days and not games so you would be wasting those days when they have to practice. I bet the guys that get those are going to because they plan on never using but will use the days to allow them to practice with the Celts (Bird type guys/I hope Rosco Allen-Waffles is one).

Do you really need a fourth-string point guard for more than a month and a half? Was Jackson really going to play meaningful minutes in more than 20 games?