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Re: Would you trade Rozier for a PF?
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2017, 08:45:58 PM »

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I would have rather traded Rozier to Orlando (if the Magic would have been down for that, anyway) for their second round picks at 33 and 35, respectively, in the draft, but we are where we are :-\. Sigh.

What would that have accomplished?
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Re: Would you trade Rozier for a PF?
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2017, 09:44:37 PM »

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I would have rather traded Rozier to Orlando (if the Magic would have been down for that, anyway) for their second round picks at 33 and 35, respectively, in the draft, but we are where we are :-\. Sigh.

What would that have accomplished?

Umm, how about giving us the ability to acquire even more talent in a loaded draft for two hundred, Alex ;D.

Re: Would you trade Rozier for a PF?
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2017, 11:18:32 AM »

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Chasson Randle and Terry Rozier have very similar stats and measurables.


https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Terry+Rozier&player_id1_select=Terry+Rozier&y1=2017&player_id1=roziete01&idx=players&player_id2_hint=Chasson+Randle&player_id2_select=Chasson+Randle&y2=2017&player_id2=randlch01&idx=players

Terry Rozier, Louisville: 33” no-step vert, 38” max vert, 10.88 lane agility, 3.15 ¾ sprint

Chasson Randle, Stanford: 33.5” no-step vert, 39.5” max vert, 10.61 lane agility, 3.20 ¾ sprint

http://www.nbadraft.net/2015-nba-draft-combine-athleticism-test-analysis


Chasson Randle   PG   4.50%   6' 0 1/4''   8' 0 1/2''   178.8   6' 7''
Terry Rozier   PG-SG   5.60%   6' 0 3/4''   8' 2 1/2''   190.2   6' 8 1/4''


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2465240-nba-combine-2015-results-day-1-measurements-highlights-and-top-prospects


http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9m7a4lm


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Re: Would you trade Rozier for a PF?
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2017, 04:00:31 PM »

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No need to pick up a rotation 4 like O'Quinn or Vonleh, they've already got (in no order) Morris/Yabusele/Crowder/Semi/Theis as guys who will spend time there at some point or another, and that's if we count Horford strictly as a full-time 5 with Baynes and Zizic (my guess is we'll see some big lineups with Horford and one of the pure 5s at times as well).

Re: Would you trade Rozier for a PF?
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2017, 04:07:07 PM »

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There's a lot of good bigs in next years draft.  No need to trade a guy like Rozier for one now.

Re: Would you trade Rozier for a PF?
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2017, 04:33:18 PM »

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I would have rather traded Rozier to Orlando (if the Magic would have been down for that, anyway) for their second round picks at 33 and 35, respectively, in the draft, but we are where we are :-\. Sigh.

What would that have accomplished?

Umm, how about giving us the ability to acquire even more talent in a loaded draft for two hundred, Alex ;D.

You are underrating Rozier a lot. Did you see the playoffs?

Re: Would you trade Rozier for a PF?
« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2017, 04:46:26 PM »

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Does anyone here think (as I do) that this may be selling low on Rozier?  TR could be on the verge of a breakout season (he's at the right age and point in his career).  TR has skills and now has some experience and an off-season to strengthen his game.  At this point in his contract he has every conceivable incentive to take his game up a notch.   BTW, "breakout" is used here in relative terms.  I consider a breakout for TR to be 20 consistent backup mpg and upping averages to 8-10 pts and 4-5 assists with tenacious defense.  He'd have some good value at trade deadline if he can do this. 

Re: Would you trade Rozier for a PF?
« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2017, 04:49:44 PM »

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Given the news about D.Jackson being waived, it seems Rozier is pretty valuable as either the backup PG or 3rd string if they play Smart as backup.

Re: Would you trade Rozier for a PF?
« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2017, 05:00:49 PM »

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I would have rather traded Rozier to Orlando (if the Magic would have been down for that, anyway) for their second round picks at 33 and 35, respectively, in the draft, but we are where we are :-\. Sigh.

What would that have accomplished?

Umm, how about giving us the ability to acquire even more talent in a loaded draft for two hundred, Alex ;D.

You are underrating Rozier a lot. Did you see the playoffs?
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Absolutely, imo.

Starters:

C Daniel Ochefu
PF Jarrod Uthoff
SF Nigel Hayes
SG Malcolm Hill
PG Xavier Rathan-Mayes

Bench:

PF/C Moses Kingsley
PF Jacob Wiley
SG/SF/PF Deonte Burton (I really have no clue as to what position this dude plays, btw, lol ;D)
SG/SF Antonius Cleveland
SG Peter Jok/Wayne Selden
PG P.J. Dozier/Gary Payton II
Worth noting that Rozier for 33 and 35 is probably more value than you are likely to get for rozier but within the context of our team it doesn't make much sense.

I'd rather have 4 years of Thornwell and Bell than 2 years of Rozier in a vacuum.

Re: Would you trade Rozier for a PF?
« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2017, 05:40:36 PM »

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Our PFs right now are Morris and Zizic with maybe Theis also (although I see Theis as the #3 center).  Yabusele may be added to this mix.  I see no need to trade Rozier in the off season.  I think he will play regular minutes off the bench to start the season.  As Tatum and Brown develop, Rozier may play less but he remains a very useful bench combo guard.

Re: Would you trade Rozier for a PF?
« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2017, 06:06:45 PM »

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I don't think that Terry Rozier would return a PF that is better than what we have. I think that Horford/Crowder/Morris will do for now. If I'm looking to improve this position, it's probably going to be for a Porzingis/Aldridge/Favors type player. I don't see Terry Rozier, in isolation, returning any of these guys.

Stay the course, pick another big man in FA or the draft. Rozier is a depth guard that could be useful, but most likely will be Just Another Guy.

Re: Would you trade Rozier for a PF?
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2017, 06:26:46 PM »

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Our PFs right now are Morris and Zizic with maybe Theis also

No way Zizic is a PF.

Re: Would you trade Rozier for a PF?
« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2017, 06:28:46 PM »

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Our PFs right now are Morris and Zizic with maybe Theis also

No way Zizic is a PF.
Yeah not really sure how one can look at a PF rotation that contains a small forward, a rookie center and Daniel Theiss and think we are set there.
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Re: Would you trade Rozier for a PF?
« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2017, 06:30:26 PM »

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Trading rozier would leave us with smart as the only guard backup for either 1 or the 2

Re: Would you trade Rozier for a PF?
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2017, 03:41:17 AM »

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I would have rather traded Rozier to Orlando (if the Magic would have been down for that, anyway) for their second round picks at 33 and 35, respectively, in the draft, but we are where we are :-\. Sigh.

What would that have accomplished?

Umm, how about giving us the ability to acquire even more talent in a loaded draft for two hundred, Alex ;D.

You are underrating Rozier a lot. Did you see the playoffs?

I did, and while he did have some good moments and nice performances, I just feel that at the end of the day he's a two guard stuck in a point guard's body who can neither shoot nor run a team, although he does rebound, so there's that ::). He's a good athlete, to be sure, but often times in watching him I come away seriously wondering about what, if anything, is going on upstairs, as he simply plays out of control all too often, imo.

I'd also venture to say that you're significantly underrating the players taken in the second round and afterwards in this year's draft, but I'm weird.