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Re: Carmelo to Rockets Multi-Team Trade Rumors (merged)
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2017, 09:34:52 AM »

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Can someone tell me what the Rockets are reportedly sending out? Maybe I missed this somewhere, but I can't find it in the articles I've read.

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Re: Carmelo to Rockets Multi-Team Trade Rumors (merged)
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2017, 10:13:54 AM »

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Can anyone see Melo successfully co-existing with D'Antoni again?

Or, at this point in his career, it just doesn't really matter to him?

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« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2017, 10:19:56 AM »

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Can anyone see Melo successfully co-existing with D'Antoni again?

Or, at this point in his career, it just doesn't really matter to him?

I think D'Antoni would not have a choice since the players what him so bad.  He has to make it work if they want to beat SA and GSW.  I think adding Melo will make it difficult for any team to easily coast through the West and hopefully they beat each other up while the C's finish Cleveland in 6 and wait for the survivor in the West to play them. 

Re: Carmelo to Rockets Multi-Team Trade Rumors (merged)
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2017, 10:28:30 AM »

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Can anyone see Melo successfully co-existing with D'Antoni again?

Or, at this point in his career, it just doesn't really matter to him?

Can't imagine that Houston team will have any sense of defensive accountability. D'Antoni never had it as coach, and Harden and Melo never had it as players.  Chris Paul is going to go nuts with those guys on the defensive end.

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« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2017, 10:28:33 AM »

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Can anyone see Melo successfully co-existing with D'Antoni again?

Or, at this point in his career, it just doesn't really matter to him?

I think if Melo plays like he did in past Olympics with other great players he'll be just fine.  He's at the point in his career too where it's best he plays second fiddle to another star like Harden.

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« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2017, 10:31:07 AM »

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Perhaps it's just me, but I seriously don't see a Paul, Harden, and Melo threesome working out so well.

As Celtics fans, we ought to be hoping that Cleveland trades Love for Melo instead of him going to Houston, because I think we matchup much better with Cleveland with Melo at the 4 than Love at the 4 (less rebounding, similar poor defense, and allows/forces us to play smaller there).
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« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2017, 10:43:30 AM »

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https://www.si.com/nba/2017/07/12/knicks-rockets-carmelo-anthony-trade-rumors


Pelicans could be the 3rd team if they are willing to take back Anderson. Would love for Boston to be the 4th team and get O'Quinn.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yd95y4m9

Good God NOOOO!!!  We can't make that trade...look at the ESPN Trade Machine!!!!

If we part with Jackson and Mickey we will LOSE 19 games!!!

Oh the humanity!!!!

 ;)

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« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2017, 10:48:36 AM »

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https://www.si.com/nba/2017/07/12/knicks-rockets-carmelo-anthony-trade-rumors


Pelicans could be the 3rd team if they are willing to take back Anderson. Would love for Boston to be the 4th team and get O'Quinn.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yd95y4m9

Good God NOOOO!!!  We can't make that trade...look at the ESPN Trade Machine!!!!

If we part with Jackson and Mickey we will LOSE 19 games!!!

Oh the humanity!!!!

 ;)

Rak

Lol how is that even possible ESPN? That's nuts.
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« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2017, 11:00:51 AM »

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https://www.si.com/nba/2017/07/12/knicks-rockets-carmelo-anthony-trade-rumors


Pelicans could be the 3rd team if they are willing to take back Anderson. Would love for Boston to be the 4th team and get O'Quinn.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yd95y4m9

Classic case of us not really needing to be involved. Additional team(s) are needed to provide salary relief to the Rockets, not the Knicks. And no reason for Knicks to dump O'Quinn, who is actually a desirable asset, in an Anthony deal.

Come up with a deal that helps the Rockets. Otherwise this deal could just be done directly with the Knicks (presumably with a pick included):

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycpyyuus
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« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2017, 11:04:03 AM »

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I do hope the Knicks trade Anthony. They'll be better if they do, and may increase our chances they finish with a better record than NYN and LAL.
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« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2017, 11:19:39 AM »

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Can someone tell me what the Rockets are reportedly sending out? Maybe I missed this somewhere, but I can't find it in the articles I've read.

Ryan Anderson and his terrible contract

Yes I know that part. But what assets are they sending out? Presumably the Knicks don't consider Anderson for Melo a fair trade. I mean, Phil Jackson is no longer around after all.
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« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2017, 11:26:15 AM »

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Perhaps it's just me, but I seriously don't see a Paul, Harden, and Melo threesome working out so well.

As Celtics fans, we ought to be hoping that Cleveland trades Love for Melo instead of him going to Houston, because I think we matchup much better with Cleveland with Melo at the 4 than Love at the 4 (less rebounding, similar poor defense, and allows/forces us to play smaller there).

I have been questioning the Paul/Harden matchup pairing from the beginning. You throw Melo in there, and I just don't get it. The only positive defender out of the 3 is Paul, and both Paul and Harden are pgs.
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« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2017, 11:52:26 AM »

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Can someone tell me what the Rockets are reportedly sending out? Maybe I missed this somewhere, but I can't find it in the articles I've read.

Ryan Anderson and his terrible contract

Yes I know that part. But what assets are they sending out? Presumably the Knicks don't consider Anderson for Melo a fair trade. I mean, Phil Jackson is no longer around after all.
I think they are hoping for salary cap relief in return. So they won't be taking on Anderson, they will hope for someone who can give them cap space next summer.

Also Houston will have to send out more than just Anderson. I imagine they would also send out Ariza as well given he is expiring and they would have Melo and Tucker at that position.

The Nets might be interested in getting in on this if they can extract an asset.

To Houston: Melo
To Knicks: Ariza, Carroll
To Brooklyn: Anderson, picks

Although the Knicks may be looking for more immediate salary relief than that

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« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2017, 12:05:36 PM »

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Can someone tell me what the Rockets are reportedly sending out? Maybe I missed this somewhere, but I can't find it in the articles I've read.

Ryan Anderson and his terrible contract

Yes I know that part. But what assets are they sending out? Presumably the Knicks don't consider Anderson for Melo a fair trade. I mean, Phil Jackson is no longer around after all.
I think they are hoping for salary cap relief in return. So they won't be taking on Anderson, they will hope for someone who can give them cap space next summer.

Also Houston will have to send out more than just Anderson. I imagine they would also send out Ariza as well given he is expiring and they would have Melo and Tucker at that position.

The Nets might be interested in getting in on this if they can extract an asset.

To Houston: Melo
To Knicks: Ariza, Carroll
To Brooklyn: Anderson, picks

Although the Knicks may be looking for more immediate salary relief than that

Houston is hoping to send out Anderson and non-guaranteed contracts they acquired the last week of June.  They need to find a team with useful players but a salary crunch looming to move a contract for tax relief or long-term cap relief.  Portland has several such players who aren't as bad a contract as Anderson.  Milwaukee also might be somewhere to look, along with New Orleans.  OKC would be a nice partner too, as they try to lessen their luxury tax bill and make affording George and Westbrook more plausible next year, but they might not like to help Carmelo go to Houston.

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« Reply #29 on: July 13, 2017, 01:09:55 PM »

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Perhaps it's just me, but I seriously don't see a Paul, Harden, and Melo threesome working out so well.

As Celtics fans, we ought to be hoping that Cleveland trades Love for Melo instead of him going to Houston, because I think we matchup much better with Cleveland with Melo at the 4 than Love at the 4 (less rebounding, similar poor defense, and allows/forces us to play smaller there).

I have been questioning the Paul/Harden matchup pairing from the beginning. You throw Melo in there, and I just don't get it. The only positive defender out of the 3 is Paul, and both Paul and Harden are pgs.
Me too.  I'm not a Melo guy but I think Paul is the perfect teammate for him.  Paul and Harden makes no sense to me.  Harden establishing himself as a point guard was the best thing that happened to his career.  Seems like someone like Hayward would almost be a better fit than Harden to go with the other two.