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Re: Nets pick ruined
« Reply #30 on: July 08, 2017, 10:03:34 AM »

Offline Diggles

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Well he didn't help Detroit win many....   So knowing the worst record only gets you a 25% I think you are OVER Reacting.   

Re: Nets pick ruined
« Reply #31 on: July 08, 2017, 10:13:49 AM »

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Teams we can essentially rule out as competition for Brooklyn's worst team status:

Boston
Toronto
Cleveland
Milwaukee
Detroit
Washington
Miami
Charlotte
Golden State
LA Clippers
San Antonio
Houston
Memphis
Utah
Oklahoma City
Portland
Denver
Minnesota

Teams that are highly unlikely to be as bad as Brooklyn:

New Orleans
Dallas
Philadelphia

That leaves us with the following teams:

New York - As dysfunctional as they might be, I find it hard to believe that a team with Porzingis and Carmelo are a worse team than Brooklyn.

Indiana - We'll see how the rest of the off-season plays out, but Oladipo and Turner don't seem like the makings of the worst team in the NBA.

Chicago - If they buy out Wade and LaVine isn't healthy, they're a legitimate contender for this spot.

Orlando - I'd definitely put Fournier, Gordon, Vucevic, Isaac ahead of Brooklyn.

Sacramento - Much improved. Some sneaky potential to fail if Randolph loses another step, but I highly doubt they are that awful.

LA Lakers - The Lakers with Lopez and Ball are almost certainly better than the Lakers with Russell, and some growth should be expected from Ingram.

Phoenix - Growth from Booker, Bender and Chriss, along with anything Jackson contributes should lead to a better Suns team, but I wouldn't rule them out.



Overall, I see really only 2 or 3 teams that seem to truly have a great shot at being worse than Brooklyn.
Ummm....ATLANTA!!

Re: Nets pick ruined
« Reply #32 on: July 08, 2017, 10:46:11 AM »

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Some of these threads crack me up!! Brooklyn is going to yeild a top ten pick. That in itself is a success.

Re: Nets pick ruined
« Reply #33 on: July 08, 2017, 10:55:01 AM »

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This whole thread could be copy pasted into Official Nets watch no?

I was kinda proud of getting last years pick watch up to nearly 200 pages
This is where the rubber hits the road

Re: Nets pick ruined
« Reply #34 on: July 08, 2017, 11:26:51 AM »

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Some of these threads crack me up!! Brooklyn is going to yeild a top ten pick. That in itself is a success.

Some people are not happy unless they are complaining.

Re: Nets pick ruined
« Reply #35 on: July 08, 2017, 11:36:25 AM »

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I'm not at all concerned. They are still going to suck.

KCP won't move the needle a lot. Good complimentary player, but will he all of a sudden just be an all-star scorer? I doubt it.

D'Angelo Russell? You mean the guy who was SIXTH in Win Shares in LA last year?

Jeremy Lin?

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Re: Nets pick ruined
« Reply #36 on: July 08, 2017, 11:41:30 AM »

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Losing Lopez' 20+ PPG and 1.7 BPG and inside pressence should cause major problems for the Nets. Yes, Russell and KCP might help their perimeter game both are more volume scorers and average 3 pt shooters. Don't see how this team hasn't regressed. I say 18-20 wins total for Brooklyn and a chance at another top pick for the Cs.

Re: Nets pick ruined
« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2017, 11:45:00 AM »

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Some of these threads crack me up!! Brooklyn is going to yeild a top ten pick. That in itself is a success.

Some people are not happy unless they are complaining.

Something about this time of year makes people dream very, very big ("should we take Doncic or Ayton number 1?" threads...).  People have penciled in the Cs  making the Finals and collecting the #1 and 2 picks next year from the Nets and Lakers.  Which, I mean, I can't even. It'd be incredible - unbelievable - totally unprecedented. But also pretty unlikely. Just consider the lottery odds - we had a 60% chance of missing the #1 pick even when the Nets had the worst record.

Something like pick 5 next year and the Kings' late lottery the year after that sounds about middle of the distribution of likely outcomes.  Not touching the Finals question yet... too early.
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Re: Nets pick ruined
« Reply #38 on: July 08, 2017, 11:47:17 AM »

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This is the first year that I'm actually not super optimistic about the Nets pick. The last two years I expected top 5 picks, with the possibility for top 3.

This year I just don't have a handle on just how bad other teams are going to be. I know the Nets will be bottom ten for sure. I just don't have a good handle on whether it'll be more like 8 or 3.

Losing Lopez definitely hurts them. KCP probably helps a little. Healthy Jeremy Lin would help quite a bit. Overall, they still look like a bottom 5 team, but flukes can happen due to other teams tanking or dealing with injuries.

Re: Nets pick ruined
« Reply #39 on: July 08, 2017, 11:50:22 AM »

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I still see Brooklyn as an 18-26 win team, even with their new acquisitions. I think they could well win a couple more games than last season, but nothing significant.
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Re: Nets pick ruined
« Reply #40 on: July 08, 2017, 11:57:15 AM »

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This is the first year that I'm actually not super optimistic about the Nets pick. The last two years I expected top 5 picks, with the possibility for top 3.

This year I just don't have a handle on just how bad other teams are going to be. I know the Nets will be bottom ten for sure. I just don't have a good handle on whether it'll be more like 8 or 3.

Losing Lopez definitely hurts them. KCP probably helps a little. Healthy Jeremy Lin would help quite a bit. Overall, they still look like a bottom 5 team, but flukes can happen due to other teams tanking or dealing with injuries.

Agree with this. It's hard to know what's going to happen to the bad teams out west who are just going to get murdered by the top 6-8 teams. Brooklyn is going to steal some games against weak eastern division opponents that take the night off mentally or, toward the end of the season, are tanking.

Re: Nets pick ruined
« Reply #41 on: July 08, 2017, 12:02:18 PM »

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Losing Lopez' 20+ PPG and 1.7 BPG and inside pressence should cause major problems for the Nets. Yes, Russell and KCP might help their perimeter game both are more volume scorers and average 3 pt shooters. Don't see how this team hasn't regressed. I say 18-20 wins total for Brooklyn and a chance at another top pick for the Cs.
They've certainly regressed or at the least, failed to improve.

However, more teams suck more this year. Chicago and Indiana seem worse to me than any other team did heading into last season.
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Re: Nets pick ruined
« Reply #42 on: July 08, 2017, 12:04:18 PM »

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Every summer someone predicts a surprisingly good season that will destroy the pick... I think it was last summer when posters expected the nets to compete for the 8th playoff spot.....

Re: Nets pick ruined
« Reply #43 on: July 08, 2017, 12:08:27 PM »

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Agree that some teams tanking may harm our chances with the Nets and Lakers pick. Even so, this thread has no sense. KCP doesn't make you much better, and even so their best position was G or G-F with Lin-DLo-LeVert.

Re: Nets pick ruined
« Reply #44 on: July 08, 2017, 12:11:21 PM »

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Both nets and Lakers look like bottom 5 teams to me. Nets could frankly be worse than last year. Losing lopez will be a massive blow. He was the only decent player they had.

Lakers, it all depends on ball. If he collapses they could be worse than the nets.