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Re: Steven Kyler: Rudy Gay could be plan B
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2017, 01:56:33 PM »

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Rudy Gay for anything above vet min only makes sense in one scenario: one year of guaranteed $ after striking out on the major FAs we want. And even if he was willing to take an offer like that, coming back from an Achilles means we have almost no idea what he could contribute that year. It just doesn't seem to add up.

Re: Steven Kyler: Rudy Gay could be plan B
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2017, 01:57:02 PM »

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I find it funny that some would think there is a price that is right for a guy coming off a major injury. Many at CB are hypothesizing that not one team would trade for IT because he is injured but somehow the Celtics will give millions to a guy with an injury.

There is a better chance of Jordan Mickey being traded one for one for Porzingas than Gay coming to Boston...or at least a hope there is.
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Re: Steven Kyler: Rudy Gay could be plan B
« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2017, 02:03:00 PM »

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The only deal for Gay that makes sense is an Amir type contract 2 yr deal with team option for the 2nd year.

2 yr/ 15 per makes sense if you want to keep max cap space for the big free agent class of 2018

Re: Steven Kyler: Rudy Gay could be plan B
« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2017, 02:05:53 PM »

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I think Rudy Gay is a back up plan but it's a lot further down the list than plan B.

Plans:
1. Sign Hayward
2. Sign Blake
3. Trade for George (renegotiate and extend)
4. Sign Millsap (3 years or less)
5. Sign Gallinari (3 years or less)
6. Sign Gay (3 years or less)

The benefit of the last two is their lower than max contracts would allow us to bring back Olynyk. I think Gay could end up being a good buy low. If Stevens can get Gay to play within the offense, defend and play the 4, I think he could be an asset that appreciates while in Boston and can be moved later for higher return.

Gay might be a reasonable dollar, fewer year deal. The mid level is $8-9, so maybe he is a bit north of that, basically splitting the max slot with Olynyk. I might do a 1+1, but would go for a
2+1. As mentioned, he would make us better. It's Rudy vs Amir for crying out loud. Also a good wing mentor, him having been The Man, allstar, etc. as a wing. And we have 2 hopefully future allstar wings.

Gay opted out of a $14 million contract. He's not taking a short term deal at just north of the MLE.
He might have just wanted to get out of Sacramento.
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Re: Steven Kyler: Rudy Gay could be plan B
« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2017, 02:11:18 PM »

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No way.

Danny will attempt to extend IT/AB/Smart if he strikes out on Hayward, Griffin, and/or trading for PG. No other major FAs make sense for more than one year. If we were doing something stupid like bringing in Rudy Gay at market rate, I would rather us just have absorbed Dwight Howard's contract. At least he fills a position of need.

And, seriously, how upset will people be around here watching Rudy Gay get major minutes while Tatum and Brown are riding the bench. It just isn't happening.

Re: Steven Kyler: Rudy Gay could be plan B
« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2017, 02:27:41 PM »

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Rudy Gay shouldn't even be Plan Z, much less plan B.
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Re: Steven Kyler: Rudy Gay could be plan B
« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2017, 02:28:55 PM »

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Rudy Gay shouldn't even be Plan Z, much less plan B.

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Re: Steven Kyler: Rudy Gay could be plan B
« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2017, 02:30:16 PM »

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The only deal for Gay that makes sense is an Amir type contract 2 yr deal with team option for the 2nd year.

2 yr/ 15 per makes sense if you want to keep max cap space for the big free agent class of 2018
This is a good option, tp.
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Re: Steven Kyler: Rudy Gay could be plan B
« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2017, 02:33:27 PM »

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I don't think that's going to happen. They'll sign Hayward. Maybe trade for George.

Mainstream media still viewing Celtics as a minor team. They are a winning team that can blow everybody away with their assets. Ainge just has to pull the trigger.

Re: Steven Kyler: Rudy Gay could be plan B
« Reply #24 on: June 25, 2017, 02:38:52 PM »

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I think Rudy Gay is a back up plan but it's a lot further down the list than plan B.

Plans:
1. Sign Hayward
2. Sign Blake
3. Trade for George (renegotiate and extend)
4. Sign Millsap (3 years or less)
5. Sign Gallinari (3 years or less)
6. Sign Gay (3 years or less)

The benefit of the last two is their lower than max contracts would allow us to bring back Olynyk. I think Gay could end up being a good buy low. If Stevens can get Gay to play within the offense, defend and play the 4, I think he could be an asset that appreciates while in Boston and can be moved later for higher return.

Gay might be a reasonable dollar, fewer year deal. The mid level is $8-9, so maybe he is a bit north of that, basically splitting the max slot with Olynyk. I might do a 1+1, but would go for a
2+1. As mentioned, he would make us better. It's Rudy vs Amir for crying out loud. Also a good wing mentor, him having been The Man, allstar, etc. as a wing. And we have 2 hopefully future allstar wings.

Gay opted out of a $14 million contract. He's not taking a short term deal at just north of the MLE.
He might have just wanted to get out of Sacramento.

Let's hope so... otherwise that was a dubious financial decision.

Hard to believe anyone is going to pay a slumping, severely injured Rudy Gay anywhere near that kind of money.

I guess he'd make an OK expiring contract for the C;s to trade at the deadline. But that's about it.

Even then, I'd rather spend that money for a short contract on a stopgap big if we can't land a star.

Re: Steven Kyler: Rudy Gay could be plan B
« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2017, 02:40:10 PM »

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I think Kyler was just looking at a list of upcoming free agents...Rudy Gay is a huge joke.

Would rather give the money to Millsap.

Ainge didn't pass up all these other deals and keep cap money for Rudy freaking Gay...Hayward will be here---Plan B is Griffin (who I bet ends up in Miami if we get Hayward).
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Re: Steven Kyler: Rudy Gay could be plan B
« Reply #26 on: June 25, 2017, 02:47:08 PM »

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I think Rudy Gay is a back up plan but it's a lot further down the list than plan B.

Plans:
1. Sign Hayward
2. Sign Blake
3. Trade for George (renegotiate and extend)
4. Sign Millsap (3 years or less)
5. Sign Gallinari (3 years or less)
6. Sign Gay (3 years or less)

The benefit of the last two is their lower than max contracts would allow us to bring back Olynyk. I think Gay could end up being a good buy low. If Stevens can get Gay to play within the offense, defend and play the 4, I think he could be an asset that appreciates while in Boston and can be moved later for higher return.

Gay might be a reasonable dollar, fewer year deal. The mid level is $8-9, so maybe he is a bit north of that, basically splitting the max slot with Olynyk. I might do a 1+1, but would go for a
2+1. As mentioned, he would make us better. It's Rudy vs Amir for crying out loud. Also a good wing mentor, him having been The Man, allstar, etc. as a wing. And we have 2 hopefully future allstar wings.

Gay opted out of a $14 million contract. He's not taking a short term deal at just north of the MLE.

Roy once again thanks for bringing up all the good info. I had mentioned Gay as a potential back-up plan in another thread not knowing about the injury, I did know he opted out.

I wonder what the other options C's have, cause IMO they will spend to the cap this year before resigning IT or any others.

Re: Steven Kyler: Rudy Gay could be plan B
« Reply #27 on: June 25, 2017, 03:33:44 PM »

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The only deal for Gay that makes sense is an Amir type contract 2 yr deal with team option for the 2nd year.

2 yr/ 15 per makes sense if you want to keep max cap space for the big free agent class of 2018
This is a good option, tp.
If Boston strikes out everywhere else and Rudy Gay comes in with the right attitude, grateful to be out of Sacramento, ready to work and OK with playing full time PF, then something like this makes sense. Give him a 1-and-1 where he feels the pressure to prove himself and also give the Celtics plenty of flexibility.

I'd be ok with it as long as he knew how the offense was going to operate.
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Re: Steven Kyler: Rudy Gay could be plan B
« Reply #28 on: June 25, 2017, 03:33:45 PM »

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I'm not trying to be flippant, but hasn't the teams he's left done better afterwards? 

Re: Steven Kyler: Rudy Gay could be plan B
« Reply #29 on: June 25, 2017, 04:10:06 PM »

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No, I think the Rudy Gay ship sailed about 4 years ago. I'd rather take on Carmelo's salary than make an offer to Rudy...and I really don't want to bring Melo to the C's.