Replace "Tatum" with "Fultz" and this all still applies.
No, it doesn't. Fultz is not an unathletic low-ceiling iso guy. And even if it does, so what? I didn't want Fultz, either.
The problem still exists for Tatum, though, and we should've used the single biggest asset this franchise had in over 30 years a lot smarter.
And what does labeling anyone who disagrees with you as "just toeing the company line" (as if that's the only reason they could POSSINLY disagree with you) show?
Please, don't be delusional. Maybe you don't notice it, but I see the same people who were on the Fultz or Jackson bandwagon just a week ago now looking for justifications why Tatum is the clear best pick. Just look at all the Jackson is a liar nonsense.
Tatum's production as a freshman was roughly equivalent to Harden's and his numbers were better than Westbrook's were as a sophomore. Fultz's numbers are closer to Durant's, but he was playing on a horrible team and good stats on a bad team have fooled a lot of GMs.
Now, Fultz could be a Hall of Famer and Tatum could be a bust but let's at least be honest and accurate.
Mike
Yeah, sorry man, that's not how you evaluate talent.
Secondly, we have new information now. That information is what ACTUALLY happened, that Ainge took Tatum and said there was not much difference basketball-wise in the top 4-5 picks. He finally revealed his reasoning. Who am I to disagree? Ainge has much more information than any of us. Call that "towing the company line", if you like, but I call it adjusting based on new information, rather than being stubborn for the sake of holding a previous position which was actually incorrect.
q.e.d.
Danny is a clown who believes his own hype but can't get **** done.
All the "prime real estate" in the world is worth nothing if you squander it like he did with our #1 pick.
Needs anger management classes. Call your buddy Josh Jackson to schedule.
q.e.d.
Weren't you the biggest Jackson supporter just a week ago?
And I want to be angry, thank you very much.
but why the uncalled for personal attack to cap your post? i dont see where that added to your argument or created the good will needed to have a civil discussion.
I'm not the one who starts with the labeling. And it's not a personal attack, it's clearly insecurity.
Got us to the #1 seed and we're still getting better.
So we get more than 53 wins next season? I mean, we did enter this off-season with the #1 pick. It's not unreasonable to expect more wins next season, no?
As far as I'm concerned, this whole "Contend now, contend later" project is now officially dead. Not happening.
Danny drafted 3 role players with our last three top 6 picks. Does anyone honestly believe a young core of Smart, Brown and Tatum has a snowball's chance in hell of competing with the young cores in Minny, Philly or Washington?
I believe we're at least 10 more years away from #18 after this off-season.
A lot of this kind of confusion can be cleared up by realizing "the blog" is hundreds of posters with a wide array of opinions rather than just one dude with a bunch of alt accounts who keeps contradicting himself.
Thank you, Captain Obvious, I'm aware of that, and it doesn't change anything. You're not adding anything to the discussion.
While I have no real problem with the events leading to the Tatum pick - I wasn't enamored with Fultz - I find the asset depth argument almost Trump-like in its laughable vapidity.
I'm not sure whether Grousbeck is pinching pennies again or this is Ainge's ego at work again, fed by the battalion of excuse-makers he has in the fan base, but until I see a move to improve this club on the floor, rather than the hoarding of teen-age projects, I am going to continue to dismiss absurdities such as this ridiculous asset depth statement of his.
If I want to give them the benefit of the doubt, I think it's just us making "the safe pick" once again. Our guys can't really evaluate talent, they can't project, they just play the percentages game of how to minimize bust potential.
It's how we end up with the Kelly Olynyk's of this world.
Btw, coach, I think this whole board, including me, owes you a massive apology. You were the only one who saw through the bull**** all these years.
It has become quite obvious that the owners care more about selling tickets and kid-sized IT4 shirts than actually winning championships.
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Btw, I just had to defend myself against what, eight different posters?
If you want to know where the group think is coming from, there's your answer. That, hwangjini, is also the reason why having a "civil discussion" on topics like these is inherently impossible.