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Which pick is more valuable?

2018 Lakers
65 (75.6%)
2019 Kings
21 (24.4%)

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Re: If its between 2018 Lakers pick or 2019 Kings pick... (poll)
« Reply #90 on: July 22, 2017, 07:50:09 PM »

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Is the Kings pick totally unprotected? I ask because it's clear to me that the Lakers will win around 40 games this year.

15 game improvement? How?

It's not rocket science guys.

The Lakers don't have a pick this year, they have no reason to tank.

They have a good coach with a championship pedigree - Luke Walton. 

They had the best draft of any team.  (Ball, Kuzma, Hart).

They picked up Brook Lopez and KCP (two NBA starters) in free agency.

Brandon Ingram is now in his second year, Julius Randle is in his contract year.

They have a solid bench in Deng, Zubac, Nance Jr., Corey Brewer, and Jordan Clarckson all of whom could start on at least a few teams in the NBA.

But really the key to it all is that Lonzo Ball is a transcendent NBA talent.  He's a culture changer and he'll make every position on the floor better with his pace, vision, and passing.   
What a delusional post ::)

Nah man, he's right. When's the last time a team with no incentive to tank and a top center like Lopez won less than 40 games?
The 2016-2017 Nets. Do I win the sarcasm award?

Totally different situation.  The Nets haven't drafted in the top Twenty since 2010.

The Lakers will be starting four high lottery picks and Brook Lopez. Most of the Lakers' bench would be starters on the Nets.

Lin is arguably the best player not names Lopez between the two teams. Not to mention that the east last year was awful, while the west this season is stacked. The Lakers are almost guaranteed to win more games than the Nets did last year, but they'll still be closer to 25 wins than 40

I'm trying to help you guys.

The Lakers won 26 games LAST year... WHILE INTENTIONALLY TANKING.

The idea that they'll lose close to 25 games again this year after adding Lopez/KCP/Ball/Kuzma/Hart is patently ridiculous.

You'd have to be insane not to think that a Center that scores 20 ppg and shoots .349 from three, a lock-down 3 and D wing, and the best pure PG from the strongest PG draft in a decade aren't going to help winning.

Like it or not that Lakers pick isn't going to be top 5. There's a 0% chance, it's best to move on now from that fantasy.


Re: If its between 2018 Lakers pick or 2019 Kings pick... (poll)
« Reply #91 on: July 22, 2017, 07:57:30 PM »

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Is the Kings pick totally unprotected? I ask because it's clear to me that the Lakers will win around 40 games this year.

15 game improvement? How?

It's not rocket science guys.

The Lakers don't have a pick this year, they have no reason to tank.

They have a good coach with a championship pedigree - Luke Walton. 

They had the best draft of any team.  (Ball, Kuzma, Hart).

They picked up Brook Lopez and KCP (two NBA starters) in free agency.

Brandon Ingram is now in his second year, Julius Randle is in his contract year.

They have a solid bench in Deng, Zubac, Nance Jr., Corey Brewer, and Jordan Clarckson all of whom could start on at least a few teams in the NBA.

But really the key to it all is that Lonzo Ball is a transcendent NBA talent.  He's a culture changer and he'll make every position on the floor better with his pace, vision, and passing.   
What a delusional post ::)
Lopez will get hurt. Rookies don't win games especially not in the west
Nah man, he's right. When's the last time a team with no incentive to tank and a top center like Lopez won less than 40 games?
The 2016-2017 Nets. Do I win the sarcasm award?

Totally different situation.  The Nets haven't drafted in the top Twenty since 2010.

The Lakers will be starting four high lottery picks and Brook Lopez. Most of the Lakers' bench would be starters on the Nets.

Lin is arguably the best player not names Lopez between the two teams. Not to mention that the east last year was awful, while the west this season is stacked. The Lakers are almost guaranteed to win more games than the Nets did last year, but they'll still be closer to 25 wins than 40

I'm trying to help you guys.

The Lakers won 26 games LAST year... WHILE INTENTIONALLY TANKING.

The idea that they'll lose close to 25 games again this year after adding Lopez/KCP/Ball/Kuzma/Hart is patently ridiculous.

You'd have to be insane not to think that a Center that scores 20 ppg and shoots .349 from three, a lock-down 3 and D wing, and the best pure PG from the strongest PG draft in a decade aren't going to help winning.

Like it or not that Lakers pick isn't going to be top 5. There's a 0% chance, it's best to move on now from that fantasy.

Re: If its between 2018 Lakers pick or 2019 Kings pick... (poll)
« Reply #92 on: July 22, 2017, 07:59:39 PM »

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Is the Kings pick totally unprotected? I ask because it's clear to me that the Lakers will win around 40 games this year.

15 game improvement? How?

It's not rocket science guys.

The Lakers don't have a pick this year, they have no reason to tank.

They have a good coach with a championship pedigree - Luke Walton. 

They had the best draft of any team.  (Ball, Kuzma, Hart).

They picked up Brook Lopez and KCP (two NBA starters) in free agency.

Brandon Ingram is now in his second year, Julius Randle is in his contract year.

They have a solid bench in Deng, Zubac, Nance Jr., Corey Brewer, and Jordan Clarckson all of whom could start on at least a few teams in the NBA.

But really the key to it all is that Lonzo Ball is a transcendent NBA talent.  He's a culture changer and he'll make every position on the floor better with his pace, vision, and passing.   
What a delusional post ::)

Nah man, he's right. When's the last time a team with no incentive to tank and a top center like Lopez won less than 40 games?
The 2016-2017 Nets. Do I win the sarcasm award?

Totally different situation.  The Nets haven't drafted in the top Twenty since 2010.

The Lakers will be starting four high lottery picks and Brook Lopez. Most of the Lakers' bench would be starters on the Nets.

Lin is arguably the best player not names Lopez between the two teams. Not to mention that the east last year was awful, while the west this season is stacked. The Lakers are almost guaranteed to win more games than the Nets did last year, but they'll still be closer to 25 wins than 40

I'm trying to help you guys.

The Lakers won 26 games LAST year... WHILE INTENTIONALLY TANKING.

The idea that they'll lose close to 25 games again this year after adding Lopez/KCP/Ball/Kuzma/Hart is patently ridiculous.

You'd have to be insane not to think that a Center that scores 20 ppg and shoots .349 from three, a lock-down 3 and D wing, and the best pure PG from the strongest PG draft in a decade aren't going to help winning.

Like it or not that Lakers pick isn't going to be top 5. There's a 0% chance, it's best to move on now from that fantasy.
So that's what they won 5 of their last 6 games, which led to giving them worse odds than Phoenix in the lottery? That's how tanking works right?? Those 5 teams gave some of their worst efforts, and the Lakers still barely beat them. Even the Spurs when they were resting all their main guys. But if they were actually tanking, they'd still lose.

They are the worst defensive team in the entire NBA. Ball is a terrible defender. KCP is average. Ingram is weak, as is Randle and Lopez. Then their bench is Jordan Clarkson and the ghost of Luol Deng, and Larry Nance. They have a pitiful roster. Just because they have talented youngsters doesn't mean they're going to win.

None of their prospects are better than Wiggins nor Towns, who also had players such as Rubio and Dieng surrounding them, so I have no idea how you can think that LAL will be better than Minny was last lesson.

But the condescending tone used in your last line pretty much confirms that you're either trolling or not worth talking to.
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Re: If its between 2018 Lakers pick or 2019 Kings pick... (poll)
« Reply #93 on: July 22, 2017, 08:21:38 PM »

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Is the Kings pick totally unprotected? I ask because it's clear to me that the Lakers will win around 40 games this year.

15 game improvement? How?

It's not rocket science guys.

The Lakers don't have a pick this year, they have no reason to tank.

They have a good coach with a championship pedigree - Luke Walton. 

They had the best draft of any team.  (Ball, Kuzma, Hart).

They picked up Brook Lopez and KCP (two NBA starters) in free agency.

Brandon Ingram is now in his second year, Julius Randle is in his contract year.

They have a solid bench in Deng, Zubac, Nance Jr., Corey Brewer, and Jordan Clarckson all of whom could start on at least a few teams in the NBA.

But really the key to it all is that Lonzo Ball is a transcendent NBA talent.  He's a culture changer and he'll make every position on the floor better with his pace, vision, and passing.   
What a delusional post ::)

Nah man, he's right. When's the last time a team with no incentive to tank and a top center like Lopez won less than 40 games?
The 2016-2017 Nets. Do I win the sarcasm award?

Totally different situation.  The Nets haven't drafted in the top Twenty since 2010.

The Lakers will be starting four high lottery picks and Brook Lopez. Most of the Lakers' bench would be starters on the Nets.

Lin is arguably the best player not names Lopez between the two teams. Not to mention that the east last year was awful, while the west this season is stacked. The Lakers are almost guaranteed to win more games than the Nets did last year, but they'll still be closer to 25 wins than 40

I'm trying to help you guys.

The Lakers won 26 games LAST year... WHILE INTENTIONALLY TANKING.

The idea that they'll lose close to 25 games again this year after adding Lopez/KCP/Ball/Kuzma/Hart is patently ridiculous.

You'd have to be insane not to think that a Center that scores 20 ppg and shoots .349 from three, a lock-down 3 and D wing, and the best pure PG from the strongest PG draft in a decade aren't going to help winning.

Like it or not that Lakers pick isn't going to be top 5. There's a 0% chance, it's best to move on now from that fantasy.

Of course they're going to help winning.  They're not gonna make them a 40 win team all of a sudden, though. 

They'll be one of the worst 5 teams in the West AT A MINIMUM (and probably bottom 3).  Sorry, but there won't be 11 teams winning 40+ games in the West.  That's not happening.
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