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Re: Kristaps Porzingis Watch Thread
« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2017, 08:24:42 AM »

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#3, Crowder, AB and a future first not from the Nets, Lakers or Kings.

As many 2nd round picks as you like. 



Re: Kristaps Porzingis Watch Thread
« Reply #31 on: June 22, 2017, 08:26:49 AM »

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#3, Crowder, AB and a future first not from the Nets, Lakers or Kings.

As many 2nd round picks as you like.


I know AB might not fit cap wise, so maybe a third team with cap space and a 1st round pick to go to NY.

Re: Kristaps Porzingis Watch Thread
« Reply #32 on: June 22, 2017, 08:29:18 AM »

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#3, Crowder, AB and a future first not from the Nets, Lakers or Kings.

As many 2nd round picks as you like.

done

Re: Kristaps Porzingis Watch Thread
« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2017, 10:07:52 AM »

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Apparently Crowder is now following Phil Jackson...

I don't expect it to happen, but if the trade goes down, I'll really miss Crowder  :'(

And his contract too which is the best bargain, non-rookie contract out there.
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Re: Kristaps Porzingis Watch Thread
« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2017, 10:11:49 AM »

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Apparently Crowder is now following Phil Jackson...

I don't expect it to happen, but if the trade goes down, I'll really miss Crowder  :'(

And his contract too which is the best bargain, non-rookie contract out there.


But becomes less of a bargain for the Celtics with the growth of Brown and the signing (cross fingers) of Hayward. 

Re: Kristaps Porzingis Watch Thread
« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2017, 10:19:02 AM »

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#3, Crowder, AB and a future first not from the Nets, Lakers or Kings.

As many 2nd round picks as you like.

I'd be fine with #3, Crowder, and 2018 LAL pick, plus filler. Porzingis is exactly what the Celtics need right now and he's very young so you're not punting the future away. I know I'm in the minority here, but I'm not too keen on trading Bradley.

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« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2017, 10:19:31 AM »

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Apparently Crowder is now following Phil Jackson...

I don't expect it to happen, but if the trade goes down, I'll really miss Crowder  :'(

And his contract too which is the best bargain, non-rookie contract out there.


But becomes less of a bargain for the Celtics with the growth of Brown and the signing (cross fingers) of Hayward.

I disagree.  Jonas Jerebko and Gerald Green played 1800 minutes for us last season and made a combined $6.5 million. Crowder makes approximately the same, and could take their collective minutes while ceding his to Hayward, and the Celtics would be a better team at the same cost for those minutes.

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« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2017, 10:19:32 AM »

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Apparently Crowder is now following Phil Jackson...

I don't expect it to happen, but if the trade goes down, I'll really miss Crowder  :'(

And his contract too which is the best bargain, non-rookie contract out there.

Source?

Re: Kristaps Porzingis Watch Thread
« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2017, 10:23:47 AM »

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Apparently Crowder is now following Phil Jackson...

I don't expect it to happen, but if the trade goes down, I'll really miss Crowder  :'(

And his contract too which is the best bargain, non-rookie contract out there.


But becomes less of a bargain for the Celtics with the growth of Brown and the signing (cross fingers) of Hayward.

I disagree.  Jonas Jerebko and Gerald Green played 1800 minutes for us last season and made a combined $6.5 million. Crowder makes approximately the same, and could take their collective minutes while ceding his to Hayward, and the Celtics would be a better team at the same cost for those minutes.


And how many of those minutes will Brown earn?   


Throw in another rookie at the same type of position, minutes are getting squeezed to the point where the best value for the Celtics with Crowder and his contract is a trade to strengthen another part of the team.

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« Reply #39 on: June 22, 2017, 10:24:20 AM »

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Apparently Crowder is now following Phil Jackson...

I don't expect it to happen, but if the trade goes down, I'll really miss Crowder  :'(

And his contract too which is the best bargain, non-rookie contract out there.

Source?

He does follow him, but I have no idea how to determine if it's a new follow.  He also follows Larry Brown. Maybe he just likes to follow HOF coaches?

Re: Kristaps Porzingis Watch Thread
« Reply #40 on: June 22, 2017, 10:30:38 AM »

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Apparently Crowder is now following Phil Jackson...

I don't expect it to happen, but if the trade goes down, I'll really miss Crowder  :'(

And his contract too which is the best bargain, non-rookie contract out there.


But becomes less of a bargain for the Celtics with the growth of Brown and the signing (cross fingers) of Hayward.

I disagree.  Jonas Jerebko and Gerald Green played 1800 minutes for us last season and made a combined $6.5 million. Crowder makes approximately the same, and could take their collective minutes while ceding his to Hayward, and the Celtics would be a better team at the same cost for those minutes.


And how many of those minutes will Brown earn?   


Throw in another rookie at the same type of position, minutes are getting squeezed to the point where the best value for the Celtics with Crowder and his contract is a trade to strengthen another part of the team.

Not too many more, considering Brown already played 1300 last year.  Furthermore, if there's a Porzingis trade and we sign Hayward, a) there's no other rookie and b) Olynyk is walking.  Porzingis isn't going to replace the 3100 minutes of Olynyk and Johnson by himself.  Some will go to Zizic, but another handful would go to the Hayward, Brown, and Crowder trio.

The minutes are absolutely there for Crowder to play between 1700-2000 in a season.

If Crowder is the required piece with #3 to get Porzingis, yes, I'd do it.  But don't trick yourself into thinking there wouldn't be a hole on the roster that Hayward alone can fix.

Re: Kristaps Porzingis Watch Thread
« Reply #41 on: June 22, 2017, 11:50:19 AM »

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Apparently Crowder is now following Phil Jackson...

I don't expect it to happen, but if the trade goes down, I'll really miss Crowder  :'(

And his contract too which is the best bargain, non-rookie contract out there.

Source?

He does follow him, but I have no idea how to determine if it's a new follow.  He also follows Larry Brown. Maybe he just likes to follow HOF coaches?

Some facebook page/group I follow posted it, and they also posted about the IT-Hayward and Horford-Hayward, Griffin-IT follows haha. Those were true too. Maybe this one is too?
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Re: Kristaps Porzingis Watch Thread
« Reply #42 on: June 22, 2017, 12:03:03 PM »

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Factor in potential Porzingis trades: Knicks think KP would have been 1st overall in draft this year & next & want picks reflecting that.

https://twitter.com/AdamHimmelsbach/status/877883221899452416?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.celticsblog.com%2F2017%2F6%2F22%2F15852148%2Fnba-draft-day-open-thread-on-boston-celtics-rumors

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Can always change, but hearing that for now the asking price for Porzingis remains massive & a deal would be v unlikely with these requests

Apparently Knicks may be asking for #3, 2018 Brooklyn Pick, Crowder, and then some filler  :o (Even A. Sherrod Blakely believes that's the "starting point price" - although as we all know he isn't really the most reliable guy out there..)

Love Porzingis, but I'll PASS. Not worth 2 Brooklyn Picks IMO, plus Crowder.


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Re: Kristaps Porzingis Watch Thread
« Reply #43 on: June 22, 2017, 12:08:03 PM »

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i dont blame phil for asking for the moon. that is just being a good GM.

but let's see whether he blinks later today when no one coughs up a treasure chest of picks.

i suspect that phil may never had wanted to trade porzingas really. he may have wanted to send a "zen message" to porzingas about skipping exit interviews. and at the same time, maybe some fool bites on the silly asking price.

i think also this is targeting boston. who else has the picks and people to match what phil is asking for?

so, we will wait and see.
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Re: Kristaps Porzingis Watch Thread
« Reply #44 on: June 22, 2017, 12:08:38 PM »

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Factor in potential Porzingis trades: Knicks think KP would have been 1st overall in draft this year & next & want picks reflecting that.

https://twitter.com/AdamHimmelsbach/status/877883221899452416?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.celticsblog.com%2F2017%2F6%2F22%2F15852148%2Fnba-draft-day-open-thread-on-boston-celtics-rumors

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Can always change, but hearing that for now the asking price for Porzingis remains massive & a deal would be v unlikely with these requests

Apparently Knicks may be asking for #3, 2018 Brooklyn Pick, Crowder, and then some filler  :o (Even A. Sherrod Blakely believes that's the "starting point price" - although as we all know he isn't really the most reliable guy out there..)

Love Porzingis, but I'll PASS. Not worth 2 Brooklyn Picks IMO, plus Crowder.

HARD PASS