Celtics in talks to land Porzingis? (Speculation)

[JOMVP]

I do Crowder, Rozier, 3, and Lakers first for Porzingis and number 8 then draft Dennis Smith Jr at 8.

[Atzar]

I'm not the biggest fan of Porzingis.  I like him, but probably not enough to meet the Knicks' likely asking price. 

Not giving up the #3, the Lakers '18 or the BKN '18.  Anything else is on the table, but like I said, I doubt the Knicks are interested. 

[Chief Macho]

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League sources say Phil Jackson wants to dump Joakim Noah's contract as part of a #Porzingis trade. Unclear if it's a deal-breaker. #Knicks


and there it is.   don't see us doing that.

[JOMVP]

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League sources say Phil Jackson wants to dump Joakim Noah's contract as part of a #Porzingis trade. Unclear if it's a deal-breaker. #Knicks


and there it is.   don't see us doing that.

We could easily work in a third team to take the contract for some othrer draft considerations.

[Monkhouse]

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League sources say Phil Jackson wants to dump Joakim Noah's contract as part of a #Porzingis trade. Unclear if it's a deal-breaker. #Knicks


and there it is.   don't see us doing that.

And who is that, and why would the Knicks need to toss in Noah's contract, when they were contemplating stretching Anthony's in the first place?

The Knicks aren't stupid. No one is taking on his contract without at least one or two second rounders, or a late first rounder for their troubles...

Why would they make their leverage even more substantially less effective, by trying to procure more of a risk by sprinkling Noah's contract, when their objective is also getting rid of Anthony, too?

[dreamgreen]

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League sources say Phil Jackson wants to dump Joakim Noah's contract as part of a #Porzingis trade. Unclear if it's a deal-breaker. #Knicks


and there it is.   don't see us doing that.

And who is that, and why would the Knicks need to toss in Noah's contract, when they were contemplating stretching Anthony's in the first place?

The Knicks aren't stupid. No one is taking on his contract without at least one or two second rounders, or a late first rounder for their troubles...

Why would they make their leverage even more substantially less effective, by trying to procure more of a risk by sprinkling Noah's contract, when their objective is also getting rid of Anthony, too?

How bad is Noah's deal?

[LGC88]

By now, we should realize that Danny has too many assets and won't be able to trade for anything.
Each time the other GM ask the moon for their best player.
They try to fleece Danny, they hope he'll give up one day and make a bad trade.
This is all a circus right now and I'd like to think that Danny will remain patient, draft someone at 3 and hopefully get Hayward. Next year you draft 2 studs again. It's their lost (see Paul George for example) and Danny's win.

[dwlefty13]

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League sources say Phil Jackson wants to dump Joakim Noah's contract as part of a #Porzingis trade. Unclear if it's a deal-breaker. #Knicks


and there it is.   don't see us doing that.

And who is that, and why would the Knicks need to toss in Noah's contract, when they were contemplating stretching Anthony's in the first place?

The Knicks aren't stupid. No one is taking on his contract without at least one or two second rounders, or a late first rounder for their troubles...

Why would they make their leverage even more substantially less effective, by trying to procure more of a risk by sprinkling Noah's contract, when their objective is also getting rid of Anthony, too?

How bad is Noah's deal?

Roughly 3 years and $54 million give or take. Not sure the exact number but stating this off the top of the doom lol. Confident I am right but can someone confirm that?

[tarheelsxxiii]

I have a question for everyone.

This deal could easily look like #1 + assets for Porzingis.

Is that a good deal for us?

No it is not, and that's why it won't be such a deal.  It could maybe (and I frankly doubt it) be #3 and a player.  It will not be #3, the Lakers pick, and a player.

I have to think Jackson is going to at least want a little more than just the #3, and Crowder..

Especially trading division rivals, and the Lakers/Knicks vs. Celtics rivarly still steaming within the 'Zen,' Master.

I would've thought so too. But in my experience, saltlover has never been wrong. 

[Monkhouse]

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League sources say Phil Jackson wants to dump Joakim Noah's contract as part of a #Porzingis trade. Unclear if it's a deal-breaker. #Knicks


and there it is.   don't see us doing that.

And who is that, and why would the Knicks need to toss in Noah's contract, when they were contemplating stretching Anthony's in the first place?

The Knicks aren't stupid. No one is taking on his contract without at least one or two second rounders, or a late first rounder for their troubles...

Why would they make their leverage even more substantially less effective, by trying to procure more of a risk by sprinkling Noah's contract, when their objective is also getting rid of Anthony, too?

How bad is Noah's deal?

One of the worst in league history...

Noah’s been worth 2.3 win shares in 46 games as a Knick.

To make matters worse, and bring things to a perspective... Barngnani registered 2.4 WS over 71 games in 2 seasons.. Noah played 46 games, but only managed to play 22 MPG...

[Moranis]

I wonder if the Cavs would offer Love, Thompson, and Felder for Porzingis, Anthony, and Noah. 

[Atzar]

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League sources say Phil Jackson wants to dump Joakim Noah's contract as part of a #Porzingis trade. Unclear if it's a deal-breaker. #Knicks


and there it is.   don't see us doing that.

And who is that, and why would the Knicks need to toss in Noah's contract, when they were contemplating stretching Anthony's in the first place?

The Knicks aren't stupid. No one is taking on his contract without at least one or two second rounders, or a late first rounder for their troubles...

Why would they make their leverage even more substantially less effective, by trying to procure more of a risk by sprinkling Noah's contract, when their objective is also getting rid of Anthony, too?

How bad is Noah's deal?

Pretty bad.  Between $17M-$19M through the '19-'20 season. 



As an aside:  IMO we should be rooting for the Knicks to keep Porzingis and especially Melo.  As currently constructed, they're a bit too good to threaten our BKN and LAL picks but not good enough to make the playoffs.  But if they offload those guys, they have no talent.  They'd be right there with Sacramento and Brooklyn at the bottom of the NBA. 

[JOMVP]

I wonder if the Cavs would offer Love, Thompson, and Felder for Porzingis, Anthony, and Noah.

That would be an insane haul for New York.

[SHAQATTACK]

those NY teams always over paying old hurt has been stars ......and we have to take on those awful contracts ....LoL.

[Monkhouse]

I have a question for everyone.

This deal could easily look like #1 + assets for Porzingis.

Is that a good deal for us?

No it is not, and that's why it won't be such a deal.  It could maybe (and I frankly doubt it) be #3 and a player.  It will not be #3, the Lakers pick, and a player.

I have to think Jackson is going to at least want a little more than just the #3, and Crowder..

Especially trading division rivals, and the Lakers/Knicks vs. Celtics rivarly still steaming within the 'Zen,' Master.

I would've thought so too. But in my experience, saltlover has never been wrong.

Next to BeatLA, Crimson_stallion, Yoki, and Saltlover, who are all members on this forum who I trust in terms of rarely being super biased, and providing great excellent insight/conversations, I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say Jackson isn't going to just budge for the 3rd pick and Crowder...

He may have lost some leverage, by coming out and stating KP isn't untouchable, (which is again, a questionable decision by a GM/part share owner,) but he has LITERALLY nothing to lose by holding onto KP, and finding suitors for Melo/Noah.