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Quote from: playdream on June 19, 2017, 12:26:36 PMQuote from: triboy16f on June 19, 2017, 09:15:13 AMQuote from: playdream on June 19, 2017, 09:07:53 AMQuote from: Yoki_IsTheName on June 19, 2017, 08:54:32 AMHere's a solid write up about Jackson. https://medium.com/@jzmazlish/age-josh-jackson-and-unexpected-development-158ed2c9a187This to me is interesting. QuoteSome scouting reports say otherwise, but there is little reason to believe Jackson is a truly elite defensive prospect. His competitiveness and defensive playmaking instincts are awesome, but he lacks length, strength, and awareness. Jackson’s skinny frame in conjunction with his relatively short (6'10) arms and not quite elite athleticism are a big deal. All of the great wing defenders in the league are long, strong, or athletic in a way Jackson is not.That's what i see as wellDisgreeYes some of those points are valid..but this scout is pretty much describing Lebron or Durant or Leonard. Butler has a short wingspan. Wiggins is weak. Jackson has a 40 plus inch vertical and elite 2nd jump to make up for his averag wingspan. Jackson strength is underrated. He was playing PF last season and was not outmuscled. He is wiry strong. Definitely needs to add more mass though to prepare for the nbaDefensive awareness? .. this scout has no idea what he is talking about regarding this aspect of Jacksons game. Look at his steals numbers. Also he rarely got beat on backdoor/pnr playsJJ is a elite athlete and even better leaper yes but that's not enoughNBA won't allow him to dunk and drive-finish like he did in the collegeIf only he can learn and willing to draw fouls like butler then he will be a star, but if not...also is there a video shows how good he is in defensive awareness?Explain then Jaylen Brown performance last season. How many plays did he have near the basket? Plus transition dunksJackson is a similar athlete with a higher iq.
Quote from: triboy16f on June 19, 2017, 09:15:13 AMQuote from: playdream on June 19, 2017, 09:07:53 AMQuote from: Yoki_IsTheName on June 19, 2017, 08:54:32 AMHere's a solid write up about Jackson. https://medium.com/@jzmazlish/age-josh-jackson-and-unexpected-development-158ed2c9a187This to me is interesting. QuoteSome scouting reports say otherwise, but there is little reason to believe Jackson is a truly elite defensive prospect. His competitiveness and defensive playmaking instincts are awesome, but he lacks length, strength, and awareness. Jackson’s skinny frame in conjunction with his relatively short (6'10) arms and not quite elite athleticism are a big deal. All of the great wing defenders in the league are long, strong, or athletic in a way Jackson is not.That's what i see as wellDisgreeYes some of those points are valid..but this scout is pretty much describing Lebron or Durant or Leonard. Butler has a short wingspan. Wiggins is weak. Jackson has a 40 plus inch vertical and elite 2nd jump to make up for his averag wingspan. Jackson strength is underrated. He was playing PF last season and was not outmuscled. He is wiry strong. Definitely needs to add more mass though to prepare for the nbaDefensive awareness? .. this scout has no idea what he is talking about regarding this aspect of Jacksons game. Look at his steals numbers. Also he rarely got beat on backdoor/pnr playsJJ is a elite athlete and even better leaper yes but that's not enoughNBA won't allow him to dunk and drive-finish like he did in the collegeIf only he can learn and willing to draw fouls like butler then he will be a star, but if not...also is there a video shows how good he is in defensive awareness?
Quote from: playdream on June 19, 2017, 09:07:53 AMQuote from: Yoki_IsTheName on June 19, 2017, 08:54:32 AMHere's a solid write up about Jackson. https://medium.com/@jzmazlish/age-josh-jackson-and-unexpected-development-158ed2c9a187This to me is interesting. QuoteSome scouting reports say otherwise, but there is little reason to believe Jackson is a truly elite defensive prospect. His competitiveness and defensive playmaking instincts are awesome, but he lacks length, strength, and awareness. Jackson’s skinny frame in conjunction with his relatively short (6'10) arms and not quite elite athleticism are a big deal. All of the great wing defenders in the league are long, strong, or athletic in a way Jackson is not.That's what i see as wellDisgreeYes some of those points are valid..but this scout is pretty much describing Lebron or Durant or Leonard. Butler has a short wingspan. Wiggins is weak. Jackson has a 40 plus inch vertical and elite 2nd jump to make up for his averag wingspan. Jackson strength is underrated. He was playing PF last season and was not outmuscled. He is wiry strong. Definitely needs to add more mass though to prepare for the nbaDefensive awareness? .. this scout has no idea what he is talking about regarding this aspect of Jacksons game. Look at his steals numbers. Also he rarely got beat on backdoor/pnr plays
Quote from: Yoki_IsTheName on June 19, 2017, 08:54:32 AMHere's a solid write up about Jackson. https://medium.com/@jzmazlish/age-josh-jackson-and-unexpected-development-158ed2c9a187This to me is interesting. QuoteSome scouting reports say otherwise, but there is little reason to believe Jackson is a truly elite defensive prospect. His competitiveness and defensive playmaking instincts are awesome, but he lacks length, strength, and awareness. Jackson’s skinny frame in conjunction with his relatively short (6'10) arms and not quite elite athleticism are a big deal. All of the great wing defenders in the league are long, strong, or athletic in a way Jackson is not.That's what i see as well
Here's a solid write up about Jackson. https://medium.com/@jzmazlish/age-josh-jackson-and-unexpected-development-158ed2c9a187This to me is interesting. QuoteSome scouting reports say otherwise, but there is little reason to believe Jackson is a truly elite defensive prospect. His competitiveness and defensive playmaking instincts are awesome, but he lacks length, strength, and awareness. Jackson’s skinny frame in conjunction with his relatively short (6'10) arms and not quite elite athleticism are a big deal. All of the great wing defenders in the league are long, strong, or athletic in a way Jackson is not.
Some scouting reports say otherwise, but there is little reason to believe Jackson is a truly elite defensive prospect. His competitiveness and defensive playmaking instincts are awesome, but he lacks length, strength, and awareness. Jackson’s skinny frame in conjunction with his relatively short (6'10) arms and not quite elite athleticism are a big deal. All of the great wing defenders in the league are long, strong, or athletic in a way Jackson is not.
Quote from: triboy16f on June 19, 2017, 12:02:20 PMQuote from: celticinorlando on June 19, 2017, 11:54:27 AMNot a good shooterNot good handles Off court issues. A notch better then obre from the wiz IMO. Just nothing about him screams elite. Dislike himKansas lost in the 1st round of the big12 tourney because Jackson was absentHe was the heart of that teamHe was more efficient scoring the basketball than tatum (who I really like a lot) and his per 40 numbers actually matchup decently with Fultz
Quote from: celticinorlando on June 19, 2017, 11:54:27 AMNot a good shooterNot good handles Off court issues. A notch better then obre from the wiz IMO. Just nothing about him screams elite. Dislike himKansas lost in the 1st round of the big12 tourney because Jackson was absentHe was the heart of that team
Not a good shooterNot good handles Off court issues. A notch better then obre from the wiz IMO. Just nothing about him screams elite. Dislike him
Quote from: Ilikesports17 on June 19, 2017, 12:12:18 PMQuote from: triboy16f on June 19, 2017, 12:02:20 PMQuote from: celticinorlando on June 19, 2017, 11:54:27 AMNot a good shooterNot good handles Off court issues. A notch better then obre from the wiz IMO. Just nothing about him screams elite. Dislike himKansas lost in the 1st round of the big12 tourney because Jackson was absentHe was the heart of that teamHe was more efficient scoring the basketball than tatum (who I really like a lot) and his per 40 numbers actually matchup decently with FultzTatum played far more minutes per game than Jackson, yet Jackson's scoring average was about the same, as I recall. He is way more efficient a player than Tatum.
Here's a solid write up about Jackson. https://medium.com/@jzmazlish/age-josh-jackson-and-unexpected-development-158ed2c9a187This to me is interesting.
It's because he can crush colleage players into and finish in the paint, he may not able to do so in the NBA
Quote from: footey on June 19, 2017, 01:27:11 PMQuote from: Ilikesports17 on June 19, 2017, 12:12:18 PMQuote from: triboy16f on June 19, 2017, 12:02:20 PMQuote from: celticinorlando on June 19, 2017, 11:54:27 AMNot a good shooterNot good handles Off court issues. A notch better then obre from the wiz IMO. Just nothing about him screams elite. Dislike himKansas lost in the 1st round of the big12 tourney because Jackson was absentHe was the heart of that teamHe was more efficient scoring the basketball than tatum (who I really like a lot) and his per 40 numbers actually matchup decently with FultzTatum played far more minutes per game than Jackson, yet Jackson's scoring average was about the same, as I recall. He is way more efficient a player than Tatum.how efficient is Jackson from the free throw? 50%? Real efficient there
Too often, we judge other groups by their worst examples while judging ourselves by our best intentions.
For a player that has all the intangibles that make him a "Danny type of guy". There is one thing he most certainly lacks...RESPECT!This cat won't work out for us or give us the time of day. Reports of Danny "hoping" and "trying" to get him to even talk to us is straight up insulting. The greatest and most storied franchise in basketball has to "hope" and "try" to get you to even talk to them? Are you kidding me? It's clear he doesn't want to come here.All those reports we were hearing about certain players/agents not wanting to play for Boston? No doubt he was one of them.We should just draft him now and flip him for the 5th and 10th pick and send him to basketball obscurity....Sacramento.
Quote from: Dchuck on June 19, 2017, 10:13:31 PMFor a player that has all the intangibles that make him a "Danny type of guy". There is one thing he most certainly lacks...RESPECT!This cat won't work out for us or give us the time of day. Reports of Danny "hoping" and "trying" to get him to even talk to us is straight up insulting. The greatest and most storied franchise in basketball has to "hope" and "try" to get you to even talk to them? Are you kidding me? It's clear he doesn't want to come here.All those reports we were hearing about certain players/agents not wanting to play for Boston? No doubt he was one of them.We should just draft him now and flip him for the 5th and 10th pick and send him to basketball obscurity....Sacramento.This is doltish. Oh so stupid. So idiotic, it's impossible to respond rationally.
Jackson supporters are ok with him being a huge liability in the 4th quarter. It'll be hack-a-jackson all quarter long
Quote from: CelticsElite on June 20, 2017, 10:05:07 PMJackson supporters are ok with him being a huge liability in the 4th quarter. It'll be hack-a-jackson all quarter longHis FT shooting will be fine. His form is fine. He hit a clutch FT to beat Texas Tech. It's not like he's spraying FT's all over like DeAndre Jordan.