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Re: 2017-18 Lakers Season Watch Thread (15-29, 6th Slot on 1/17)
« Reply #1425 on: January 19, 2018, 09:50:33 PM »

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Strange to watch the Heat play someone other than the Celtics and Olynyk not score like Wilt Chamberlain...
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Re: 2017-18 Lakers Season Watch Thread (15-29, 6th Slot on 1/17)
« Reply #1426 on: January 19, 2018, 09:56:28 PM »

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Sadly, Indy on the second night of a back-to-back, only a 2 point favorite.

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Ingram was a GTD and is out too, so no Ball Ingram or Pope.

Re: 2017-18 Lakers Season Watch Thread (15-29, 6th Slot on 1/17)
« Reply #1427 on: January 19, 2018, 09:56:46 PM »

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Brooklyn beats the Heat...two win lead on Lakers now.
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Re: 2017-18 Lakers Season Watch Thread (15-29, 6th Slot on 1/17)
« Reply #1428 on: January 20, 2018, 12:32:52 AM »

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Ugh, chase that pipe dream of signing George and James this summer and just trade Clarkson already, Lakers! This team would definitely be bottom five without Clarkson always bailing them out offensively.

Re: 2017-18 Lakers Season Watch Thread (15-29, 6th Slot on 1/17)
« Reply #1429 on: January 20, 2018, 12:41:36 AM »

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Woah. Lakers going to win without Ball/Ingram/KCP. Brooklyn Memphis and Phoenix won too.

Re: 2017-18 Lakers Season Watch Thread (15-29, 6th Slot on 1/17)
« Reply #1430 on: January 20, 2018, 11:27:40 AM »

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Woah. Lakers going to win without Ball/Ingram/KCP. Brooklyn Memphis and Phoenix won too.

That's good that the other three teams won, sort of removes the sting of that LAL win.

Dallas is the wild card. If they go on a run and stay above LAL, then LAL stay around the 4th worst in the league (assuming ATL, SAC and ORL stay behind them), and our shot at a 2-5 pick is around 71% I believe (pretty solid).

Still a long season left though, but LAL will also be selling soon I imagine to open up cap space. Have to hope the "rental/expiring" they get back isn't some stud though lol.
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Re: 2017-18 Lakers Season Watch Thread (15-29, 6th Slot on 1/17)
« Reply #1431 on: January 20, 2018, 01:25:09 PM »

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Woah. Lakers going to win without Ball/Ingram/KCP. Brooklyn Memphis and Phoenix won too.

I think the Lakers are pretty much always better without Ball on the court.

Re: 2017-18 Lakers Season Watch Thread (15-29, 6th Slot on 1/17)
« Reply #1432 on: January 20, 2018, 02:36:13 PM »

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This is how bad the pacers are

 The Lakers, with three starters out because of injuries Friday, had the worst free throw shooting percentage in a game in NBA history -- and still won.

With Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram and Kentavious Caldwell-Pope out, the Lakers shot an abysmal 2-for-14 from the foul line in a 99-86 win over the Indiana Pacers at Staples Center.

The 14.3 percent from the free throw line is the lowest by any team in NBA history with a minimum of 10 attempts, according to the Elias Sports Bureau.


Re: 2017-18 Lakers Season Watch Thread (15-29, 6th Slot on 1/17)
« Reply #1433 on: January 20, 2018, 03:00:10 PM »

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Woah. Lakers going to win without Ball/Ingram/KCP. Brooklyn Memphis and Phoenix won too.

I think the Lakers are pretty much always better without Ball on the court.

But just the opposite is actually true.

Re: 2017-18 Lakers Season Watch Thread (15-29, 6th Slot on 1/17)
« Reply #1434 on: January 20, 2018, 03:00:42 PM »

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one of the worst games i ve seen Pacers play in a long time .  Zero energy and awful shooting.

Re: 2017-18 Lakers Season Watch Thread (15-29, 6th Slot on 1/17)
« Reply #1435 on: January 20, 2018, 03:40:34 PM »

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Woah. Lakers going to win without Ball/Ingram/KCP. Brooklyn Memphis and Phoenix won too.

That's good that the other three teams won, sort of removes the sting of that LAL win.

Dallas is the wild card. If they go on a run and stay above LAL, then LAL stay around the 4th worst in the league (assuming ATL, SAC and ORL stay behind them), and our shot at a 2-5 pick is around 71% I believe (pretty solid).

Still a long season left though, but LAL will also be selling soon I imagine to open up cap space. Have to hope the "rental/expiring" they get back isn't some stud though lol.

Couldn't agree more.  I have my eyes set on that #4 slot.  We need Dallas to start winning a few games.  On paper they are pretty bad but seem to always play well against us.  Hopefully they can win a couple of games over the next few weeks.

Re: 2017-18 Lakers Season Watch Thread (15-29, 6th Slot on 1/17)
« Reply #1436 on: January 20, 2018, 03:45:46 PM »

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Ball's set to miss his fourth straight game.

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Lonzo Ball did not practice today. He’s out tomorrow. KCP & Ingram questionable for Sunday.

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Re: 2017-18 Lakers Season Watch Thread (15-29, 6th Slot on 1/17)
« Reply #1437 on: January 20, 2018, 04:32:31 PM »

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Woah. Lakers going to win without Ball/Ingram/KCP. Brooklyn Memphis and Phoenix won too.

I think the Lakers are pretty much always better without Ball on the court.

But just the opposite is actually true.

I don’t know how definitive that is.

Lakers team ORtg is 103 and their DRtg is 107. Ball’s is 95 and 105, respectively. Seems like he hurts their offense much more than he helps their defense.

There are some numbers that show he’s a marginal plus player (all on the defensive side, and interestingly enough, bbref has him as a +7.7 net), but like I said, a case can certainly be made they are better off with him off the court.

He’s a poor player on a poor team, he’s not an impact player.
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Re: 2017-18 Lakers Season Watch Thread (15-29, 6th Slot on 1/17)
« Reply #1438 on: January 20, 2018, 05:25:32 PM »

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Woah. Lakers going to win without Ball/Ingram/KCP. Brooklyn Memphis and Phoenix won too.

I think the Lakers are pretty much always better without Ball on the court.

But just the opposite is actually true.

I don’t know how definitive that is.

Lakers team ORtg is 103 and their DRtg is 107. Ball’s is 95 and 105, respectively. Seems like he hurts their offense much more than he helps their defense.

There are some numbers that show he’s a marginal plus player (all on the defensive side, and interestingly enough, bbref has him as a +7.7 net), but like I said, a case can certainly be made they are better off with him off the court.

He’s a poor player on a poor team, he’s not an impact player.
you really can't make that case because as you say the Lakers are just flat out better with him on the court than with him off the court.  For example, Ball leads the Lakers with an on court +- of -1.1.  KCP is next closest at -2.2 (I'm disregarding Blue and Payton who aren't regulars).  The on vs. off difference for Ball as you say is 7.7, KCP is 2nd at 5.1.  There just aren't any metrics that show the Lakers are a better team with Ball not on the floor.  In fact, he is their most important player when it comes to actual score performance.
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Re: 2017-18 Lakers Season Watch Thread (15-29, 6th Slot on 1/17)
« Reply #1439 on: January 20, 2018, 05:43:54 PM »

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one of the worst games i ve seen Pacers play in a long time .  Zero energy and awful shooting.

Yeah, it looked like men in suits were waiting behind Staples Center to crack Lance Stephenson's kneecap if the Pacers covered.  Been a while since I've seen someone loft so many terrible shots without a hint of hesitation (1-12).  I'm sure his defense and intangibles made up for it, but he absolutely killed several Pacer rallies during the night...
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