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Re: 2017-2018 LA Lakers Season Watch Thread
« Reply #90 on: September 19, 2017, 02:26:00 AM »

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Andrew bogut doesn't make or break any team. He adds 0 wins  to a team. To be honest I doubt he plays much

Lakers will have Lopez randle  And kuzma taking most of the 4/5 minutes

If Bogut manages to play 50 games, I think he adds several wins. Just want to be on the record saying that now/
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Re: 2017-2018 LA Lakers Season Watch Thread
« Reply #91 on: September 19, 2017, 03:02:02 AM »

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Andrew bogut doesn't make or break any team. He adds 0 wins  to a team. To be honest I doubt he plays much

Lakers will have Lopez randle  And kuzma taking most of the 4/5 minutes

If Bogut manages to play 50 games, I think he adds several wins. Just want to be on the record saying that now/
Last 6 years he has been playing 45,8 games per year. I like him, he is almost a Croatian, but the medical record doesn't lie.
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Re: 2017-2018 LA Lakers Season Watch Thread
« Reply #92 on: September 20, 2017, 02:25:33 PM »

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Andrew bogut doesn't make or break any team. He adds 0 wins  to a team. To be honest I doubt he plays much

Lakers will have Lopez randle  And kuzma taking most of the 4/5 minutes

If he stays healthy (which is a big IF. I agree), then he definitely could add some wins.


Re: 2017-2018 LA Lakers Season Watch Thread
« Reply #93 on: September 20, 2017, 03:25:03 PM »

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Andrew bogut doesn't make or break any team. He adds 0 wins  to a team. To be honest I doubt he plays much

Lakers will have Lopez randle  And kuzma taking most of the 4/5 minutes

If Bogut manages to play 50 games, I think he adds several wins. Just want to be on the record saying that now/

I think at this stage of his career Bogut's one of those guys who becomes more valuable as the team around him gets better. The team around him's pretty awful right now. I think his impact will be fairly minimal, especially when he's backing up a more talented guy that he can't play alongside. Could be injury insurance for Brook, I suppose.

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« Reply #94 on: September 20, 2017, 04:41:25 PM »

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Watch, he'll end up pulling a Lopez and play 75 games this year.  :P


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Re: 2017-2018 LA Lakers Season Watch Thread
« Reply #95 on: September 20, 2017, 05:17:29 PM »

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oh, never seen this thread XD looking forward to all those losses, enough for a 2-5 ball ;p
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Re: 2017-2018 LA Lakers Season Watch Thread
« Reply #96 on: September 21, 2017, 08:18:28 AM »

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Andrew bogut doesn't make or break any team. He adds 0 wins  to a team. To be honest I doubt he plays much

Lakers will have Lopez randle  And kuzma taking most of the 4/5 minutes

If Bogut manages to play 50 games, I think he adds several wins. Just want to be on the record saying that now/

I think at this stage of his career Bogut's one of those guys who becomes more valuable as the team around him gets better. The team around him's pretty awful right now. I think his impact will be fairly minimal, especially when he's backing up a more talented guy that he can't play alongside. Could be injury insurance for Brook, I suppose.
I was thinking Bogut's real value is probably off the court as a pass/defense first mentor with a championship for the young guys while also being a coach-in-the-locker-room type Walton can rely on.

Not sure how many wins that translates to.

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« Reply #97 on: September 21, 2017, 08:29:42 AM »

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Bogut got only $50k guaranteed for his 1-year minimum deal.  The likelihood that he contributes to winning basketball games is quite small.

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« Reply #98 on: September 21, 2017, 09:20:15 AM »

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Andrew bogut doesn't make or break any team. He adds 0 wins  to a team. To be honest I doubt he plays much

Lakers will have Lopez randle  And kuzma taking most of the 4/5 minutes

If Bogut manages to play 50 games, I think he adds several wins. Just want to be on the record saying that now/

I think at this stage of his career Bogut's one of those guys who becomes more valuable as the team around him gets better. The team around him's pretty awful right now. I think his impact will be fairly minimal, especially when he's backing up a more talented guy that he can't play alongside. Could be injury insurance for Brook, I suppose.
I was thinking Bogut's real value is probably off the court as a pass/defense first mentor with a championship for the young guys while also being a coach-in-the-locker-room type Walton can rely on.

Not sure how many wins that translates to.

That's fair. Mentorship is more of a long-term investment anyway, so he might not need to help win this year to benefit the team.

Re: 2017-2018 LA Lakers Season Watch Thread
« Reply #99 on: September 23, 2017, 03:26:29 PM »

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I fear this Melo trade might have hurt our chances at the LAL Pick conveying this summer.

Knicks were going to be bad but now they are REALLY bad with Melo gone (Kanter is no scrub, but he's not as good as Melo either).

Man I wish Ainge fought for some more favorable protections from that LAL Pick, like 2-7, not just 2-5.

Even a player from 6-10 in this upcoming draft would be spectacular (it's a DEEP draft loaded with big men). But only chance is 2-5....  :(

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« Reply #100 on: September 23, 2017, 03:44:43 PM »

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I fear this Melo trade might have hurt our chances at the LAL Pick conveying this summer.

Knicks were going to be bad but now they are REALLY bad with Melo gone (Kanter is no scrub, but he's not as good as Melo either).

Man I wish Ainge fought for some more favorable protections from that LAL Pick, like 2-7, not just 2-5.

Even a player from 6-10 in this upcoming draft would be spectacular (it's a DEEP draft loaded with big men). But only chance is 2-5....  :(

Makes sense. I'm optimistic if he saw someone special he could put together enough other and future picks to swing something. I'm also okay with spreading out the acquisition of young players a bit.

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« Reply #101 on: September 23, 2017, 04:44:07 PM »

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I fear this Melo trade might have hurt our chances at the LAL Pick conveying this summer.

Knicks were going to be bad but now they are REALLY bad with Melo gone (Kanter is no scrub, but he's not as good as Melo either).

Man I wish Ainge fought for some more favorable protections from that LAL Pick, like 2-7, not just 2-5.

Even a player from 6-10 in this upcoming draft would be spectacular (it's a DEEP draft loaded with big men). But only chance is 2-5....  :(

Isn't it the other way around? The Lakers' pick is protected for 6-30 by the Celtics, such that in that case we hopefully will get a better pick with the Kings' pick. So Ainge fought for not having to settle for a 6th or 7th pick. He clearly has very high expectations for this pick whether it's fullfilled in 2018 or 2019.

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« Reply #102 on: September 23, 2017, 04:48:27 PM »

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I fear this Melo trade might have hurt our chances at the LAL Pick conveying this summer.

Knicks were going to be bad but now they are REALLY bad with Melo gone (Kanter is no scrub, but he's not as good as Melo either).

Man I wish Ainge fought for some more favorable protections from that LAL Pick, like 2-7, not just 2-5.

Even a player from 6-10 in this upcoming draft would be spectacular (it's a DEEP draft loaded with big men). But only chance is 2-5....  :(

Isn't it the other way around? The Lakers' pick is protected for 6-30 by the Celtics, such that in that case we hopefully will get a better pick with the Kings' pick. So Ainge fought for not having to settle for a 6th or 7th pick. He clearly has very high expectations for this pick whether it's fullfilled in 2018 or 2019.
would you really rather have the 2019 kings pick over picks 6 or 7 in this coming draft?
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Re: 2017-2018 LA Lakers Season Watch Thread
« Reply #103 on: September 23, 2017, 04:50:18 PM »

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I fear this Melo trade might have hurt our chances at the LAL Pick conveying this summer.

Knicks were going to be bad but now they are REALLY bad with Melo gone (Kanter is no scrub, but he's not as good as Melo either).

Man I wish Ainge fought for some more favorable protections from that LAL Pick, like 2-7, not just 2-5.

Even a player from 6-10 in this upcoming draft would be spectacular (it's a DEEP draft loaded with big men). But only chance is 2-5....  :(
Its too early to really judge a draft, but Ive heard several times that the '18 draft looks like on of the least deep drafts in recent memory. Remarkably top-heavy.
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Re: 2017-2018 LA Lakers Season Watch Thread
« Reply #104 on: September 23, 2017, 06:04:45 PM »

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I fear this Melo trade might have hurt our chances at the LAL Pick conveying this summer.

Knicks were going to be bad but now they are REALLY bad with Melo gone (Kanter is no scrub, but he's not as good as Melo either).

Man I wish Ainge fought for some more favorable protections from that LAL Pick, like 2-7, not just 2-5.

Even a player from 6-10 in this upcoming draft would be spectacular (it's a DEEP draft loaded with big men). But only chance is 2-5....  :(
Its too early to really judge a draft, but Ive heard several times that the '18 draft looks like on of the least deep drafts in recent memory. Remarkably top-heavy.
That's also what I've heard, that it's basically a 5-man draft.

The East gets worse but the West gets better. So my hope is, this translates to the bottom West teams (Sacramento, Phoenix, LA) having really low wins numbers and the bottom East teams managing more wins because they're all trying to lose against one another and someone will have to win some of those games.