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Re: 2017-2018 LA Lakers Season Watch Thread
« Reply #630 on: December 03, 2017, 10:17:43 PM »

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Lakers are back to 7th worst team. Looking much better as the bad teams with records worse than lakers  got some wins. If they can continue, then the lakers are in trouble
Why are the Lakers in trouble?  They were never going to make the playoffs.  Pretty much everyone had them 10th or 11th worst in the West which is where they are likely to finish.  With the Clippers and Grizzlies injuries, they may end up doing a bit better.

They are in trouble because, barring a huge FA splash (yes Lebron and PG would make a difference), this is really it for them. They have young players that they hope continue to improve, but they don't have their pick this year and probably won't have another high pick for years to come. They have basically been on the same trajectory as the Cs with their draft pick selections, but don't have Kyrie, Horford, and Hayward.

Also, having the Lakers finish at 10th or 11th is a pretty optimistic view of their situation (apparently you think 12th/13th is a possibility with the Clips and Grizz faltering). They should get pummeled in December and hopefully fall back into the bottom 5 range. If not, it's not the end of the world; Cs fans just want to see the Lakers do poorly - with or without the pick conveying.
Actually I bungled that.  Kings and Suns should finish below them in the West.  Good chance the Mavs and Clips will as well.  Possibly the Grizz depending on Conley's situation. 

Don't know why people focus on Lakers having a tough December.  Schedules balance out.  Where the Lakers finish is predominantly going to be determined by how they play against the other bad teams. 

The Lakers last 4 picks have been 7th, 2nd, 2nd and 2nd.  2nd again this year would be really nice for us.  If the Lakers don't sign a couple big time free agents in the offseason, they're most likely going to be a bottom 10 team again in 2018/19 and the new lottery odds will be in affect for the 2019 draft. 
 
also Lakers are In trouble because they cashed in Russell and thought brook "lottery team" Lopez was Getting them to the playoffs. Here's the kicker- nets have a better record right now than the Lakers. Nets are winning with addition by subtraction
The Lakers were always going to be bad this year.  They didn't think Lopez was getting them into the playoffs.  That was a pure salary dump trade to get rid of the lousy Mozgov contract.  Russell was the cost to get the trade done but they were fine with that because they knew they were drafting Ball.  The Nets and Lakers have the same record and one of those additions by subtraction is Russell. 

I really don't expect them to be much better next season.  Magic would need to pull off some real magic to get two top tier free agents. 

Re: 2017-2018 LA Lakers Season Watch Thread
« Reply #631 on: December 04, 2017, 12:14:42 AM »

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Poor Lonzo looked absolutely terrible tonight. Genuinely feel for the guy..

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Re: 2017-2018 LA Lakers Season Watch Thread
« Reply #632 on: December 04, 2017, 01:08:45 AM »

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Lakers are 7th from the basement just now - and only one game better than the 4th-worst Kings.

I find it hard to believe they’ll fall past the Kings but if they  did finish 4th from the bottom the. according to tankapaloosa there’s be a better than 70% chance of the pick falling 2-5. OTOH, if they stay on 7th it’s about 10%. That’s how much a few more wins or lossss can make.

Re: 2017-2018 LA Lakers Season Watch Thread
« Reply #633 on: December 04, 2017, 02:00:54 AM »

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Lakers are 7th from the basement just now - and only one game better than the 4th-worst Kings.

I find it hard to believe they’ll fall past the Kings but if they  did finish 4th from the bottom the. according to tankapaloosa there’s be a better than 70% chance of the pick falling 2-5. OTOH, if they stay on 7th it’s about 10%. That’s how much a few more wins or lossss can make.

I can see the Kings passing the Lakers at some point. Gotta believe this next month of doom will get to LAL!

Re: 2017-2018 LA Lakers Season Watch Thread
« Reply #634 on: December 04, 2017, 02:20:46 AM »

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Poor Lonzo looked absolutely terrible tonight. Genuinely feel for the guy..

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Re: 2017-2018 LA Lakers Season Watch Thread
« Reply #635 on: December 04, 2017, 09:04:50 AM »

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WooHoo!

They currently have a 51.2% chance of being in the top 6!!

https://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.html


And this is who they play this week:
Thu, Dec 7, 2017   8:00p ET         @   Philadelphia 76ers                  
Sat, Dec 9, 2017   7:00p ET         @   Charlotte Hornets                     

Re: 2017-2018 LA Lakers Season Watch Thread
« Reply #636 on: December 04, 2017, 09:26:47 AM »

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Unfortunately we want to be 2-5, and the odds of that right now are 26%.

Re: 2017-2018 LA Lakers Season Watch Thread
« Reply #637 on: December 04, 2017, 09:27:47 AM »

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Unfortunately we want to be 2-5, and the odds of that right now are 26%.

Which is a little higher than our chances of getting the #1 pick in 2017 were  ;)

Re: 2017-2018 LA Lakers Season Watch Thread
« Reply #638 on: December 04, 2017, 12:05:05 PM »

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Unfortunately we want to be 2-5, and the odds of that right now are 26%.

Hmmm...I think it's 34.3%.

#2 - 1.6%
#3 - 5.2%
#4 - 11.5%
#5 - 16.0%


https://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.html

Re: 2017-2018 LA Lakers Season Watch Thread
« Reply #639 on: December 04, 2017, 12:23:03 PM »

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Unfortunately we want to be 2-5, and the odds of that right now are 26%.

Hmmm...I think it's 34.3%.

#2 - 1.6%
#3 - 5.2%
#4 - 11.5%
#5 - 16.0%


https://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.html

That's pre-lottery odds.  Go down to the next chart and you'll see the odds with the lottery factored in:

6.9, 7.3, 2.6, 9.3 = 26.1. 

It's still early though, not worth getting too worked up about it.  It could change a lot in two weeks.

Re: 2017-2018 LA Lakers Season Watch Thread
« Reply #640 on: December 04, 2017, 12:24:31 PM »

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Unfortunately we want to be 2-5, and the odds of that right now are 26%.

Which is a little higher than our chances of getting the #1 pick in 2017 were  ;)

So you're saying there's a chance?  ;D

Re: 2017-2018 LA Lakers Season Watch Thread
« Reply #641 on: December 04, 2017, 05:34:19 PM »

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Unfortunately we want to be 2-5, and the odds of that right now are 26%.

Hmmm...I think it's 34.3%.

#2 - 1.6%
#3 - 5.2%
#4 - 11.5%
#5 - 16.0%


https://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.html

That's pre-lottery odds.  Go down to the next chart and you'll see the odds with the lottery factored in:

6.9, 7.3, 2.6, 9.3 = 26.1. 

It's still early though, not worth getting too worked up about it.  It could change a lot in two weeks.

Oh I see...thanks!

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Re: 2017-2018 LA Lakers Season Watch Thread
« Reply #642 on: December 04, 2017, 10:29:16 PM »

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Grizzlies, nets, suns, and hornets all won, dropping the Lakers down to 5th worst in NBA. This is all 1 game into The Lakers brutal December schedule lol

Re: 2017-2018 LA Lakers Season Watch Thread
« Reply #643 on: December 04, 2017, 10:45:57 PM »

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LAL have a tough December, but a relatively easy January and February. Then it toughens up later in the year.

Odds are still against us, but we still have a shot. Adding a talent like Luka or Ayton to this team would be too good to be true.

Re: 2017-2018 LA Lakers Season Watch Thread
« Reply #644 on: December 04, 2017, 11:28:22 PM »

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I would be psyched if we could somehow land Mo Bamba. I think he could contribute immediately off the bench as our longest player. Bagley seems special as well. Hope Porter can recover before the draft for his sake.