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Which pick is more valuable?

2018 Lakers
65 (75.6%)
2019 Kings
21 (24.4%)

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Re: If its between 2018 Lakers pick or 2019 Kings pick... (poll)
« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2017, 10:58:03 AM »

Offline slamtheking

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If it isn't both and no3 don't do it
agreed.  would prefer to keep the pick but if Philly wants it bad enough, let them pay through the nose.  there's no guarantee LA and Sac will still be top lottery picks at that point.  Nets I'm still sure are a top 8 pick next year.

Re: If its between 2018 Lakers pick or 2019 Kings pick... (poll)
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2017, 11:02:21 AM »

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Hope there is an option to pick the 2018 Lakers pick or 2019 Kings pick...not one or the other

How does the 2019 class look? Kings should still be a horrible team
Don't buy the story. Seems more like a smoke screen to me.
 
Not even sure I would do #1 for #3 + LA 2018 + Sac 2019


You are the one who is lost in media hype. Same thing year in, year out. It's called silly season for a reason. Couldn't care less about the rumors. If the Sixers want Fultz let them overpay for him. Unless a godfather offer comes in, common sense says we have no reason whatsoever to trade the pick.

So i we get the lakers pick or the kings pick ( both are going to be top 5 picks, maybe top 3) we shouldn't do it?  1 for 3 + top 5 isn't overpay? It is and i would take that offer. GS built their teams with draft picks. Lebron isn't going to sign here, Durant is not signing here, so we will beat them with Butler??? We need picks and we need to look long term.
We already have a ton of picks

2018 Brooklyn first
2019 Clips first
2019 Memphis first

plus all of our picks
plus 5 second round picks

Unless a desperate team makes a desperate offer, we have no reason whatsoever to trade the pick.

#1 for #3 + LA 2018? Thanks, but no thanks. I'd rather have Fultz.

#1 for #3 + LA 2018 + Sac 2019? Really don't know. I might do it.

Re: If its between 2018 Lakers pick or 2019 Kings pick... (poll)
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2017, 11:21:36 AM »

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People get too caught up on the thought of trading away the chance to draft Fultz. However, based on the top players expected to be available in 2018 via draft express and the fact that 2019 draft top pick, Marvin Bargley Jr., is a generational type talent. Then it's easy to see the rationale here.


Fultz

for

Jackson, Tatum, or Ball
+
2018 - Doncic, Porter, Ayton, or Bamba
+
2019 - Bagley Jr., Langford, Reddish, or Williamson


Now doesn't the thought of that take people off the ledge? Plus, we could potentially net (pun intended) two of those players in 2018.

Re: If its between 2018 Lakers pick or 2019 Kings pick... (poll)
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2017, 11:37:16 AM »

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People get too caught up on the thought of trading away the chance to draft Fultz. However, based on the top players expected to be available in 2018 via draft express and the fact that 2019 draft top pick, Marvin Bargley Jr., is a generational type talent. Then it's easy to see the rationale here.


Fultz

for

Jackson, Tatum, or Ball
+
2018 - Doncic, Porter, Ayton, or Bamba
+
2019 - Bagley Jr., Langford, Reddish, or Williamson


Now doesn't the thought of that take people off the ledge? Plus, we could potentially net (pun intended) two of those players in 2018.
The Lakers will have zero incentive to lose games next year, much less if they know for a fact that their pick belongs to the C's.

Ball - Clarkson
Russell
Ingram - Deng - Brewer
Randle - Nance Jr.
Mozgov - Zubac - Black

+ the 28th pick

This is not a bottom 5 team. Not to mention it's possible they trade for Paul George either this summer or at the trade deadline.

Re: If its between 2018 Lakers pick or 2019 Kings pick... (poll)
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2017, 11:41:24 AM »

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One thing to keep in mind is that the NBA is looking into abolishing the 1-and-done rule. If they do, one of these next drafts could be absolutely loaded.

As for the OP, I want both.  :P
"In Danny we trust" is so 2016.

Re: If its between 2018 Lakers pick or 2019 Kings pick... (poll)
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2017, 11:42:38 AM »

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Kings

they will always suck


Magic will spend out like crazy to get the Lakers to 40 wins . 

ai would not count on the Lakers tanking anymore ....Johnson will spend for best ves that will sign

Lakers picks will drop,in value like a rock ......11-18 pick range . is where I see them

Re: If its between 2018 Lakers pick or 2019 Kings pick... (poll)
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2017, 11:46:16 AM »

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Kings

they will always suck


Magic will spend out like crazy to get the Lakers to 40 wins . 

ai would not count on the Lakers tanking anymore ....Johnson will spend for best ves that will sign

Lakers picks will drop,in value like a rock ......11-18 pick range . is where I see them

maybe...
west is still very strong

Re: If its between 2018 Lakers pick or 2019 Kings pick... (poll)
« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2017, 11:49:47 AM »

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People get too caught up on the thought of trading away the chance to draft Fultz. However, based on the top players expected to be available in 2018 via draft express and the fact that 2019 draft top pick, Marvin Bargley Jr., is a generational type talent. Then it's easy to see the rationale here.


Fultz

for

Jackson, Tatum, or Ball
+
2018 - Doncic, Porter, Ayton, or Bamba
+
2019 - Bagley Jr., Langford, Reddish, or Williamson


Now doesn't the thought of that take people off the ledge? Plus, we could potentially net (pun intended) two of those players in 2018.
The Lakers will have zero incentive to lose games next year, much less if they know for a fact that their pick belongs to the C's.

Ball - Clarkson
Russell
Ingram - Deng - Brewer
Randle - Nance Jr.
Mozgov - Zubac - Black

+ the 28th pick

This is not a bottom 5 team. Not to mention it's possible they trade for Paul George either this summer or at the trade deadline.

The Nets have had zero incentive to tank either and how'd that turn for them over the last 2 seasons? That team you mentioned, except for Ball, is the same team that finished 26-56 and had the 3rd worst record in the league.

Plus, they play in the West. Can you name the 5 teams that they're going to be better than?

Re: If its between 2018 Lakers pick or 2019 Kings pick... (poll)
« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2017, 11:50:30 AM »

Offline Jvalin

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Kings

they will always suck


Magic will spend out like crazy to get the Lakers to 40 wins . 

ai would not count on the Lakers tanking anymore ....Johnson will spend for best ves that will sign

Lakers picks will drop,in value like a rock ......11-18 pick range . is where I see them
Will they suck enough to net us a top 3-5 pick? As much as they suck, last time they got a top 3 pick was in 1991.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacramento_Kings_draft_history

Re: If its between 2018 Lakers pick or 2019 Kings pick... (poll)
« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2017, 11:50:50 AM »

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Magic will spend out like crazy to get the Lakers to 40 wins

ai would not count on the Lakers tanking anymore ....Johnson will spend for best ves that will sign

Lakers picks will drop,in value like a rock ......11-18 pick range . is where I see them

Can you explain this theory? Because there is something called a salary cap.

Re: If its between 2018 Lakers pick or 2019 Kings pick... (poll)
« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2017, 11:52:59 AM »

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If Danny does such a trade it'll be both plus the 3rd pick.

Re: If its between 2018 Lakers pick or 2019 Kings pick... (poll)
« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2017, 11:56:32 AM »

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If Danny does such a trade it'll be both plus the 3rd pick.

the 2018, 2019 76ers pick could be in play also

So between these picks ...Danny gets to choose 2

Re: If its between 2018 Lakers pick or 2019 Kings pick... (poll)
« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2017, 12:03:06 PM »

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People get too caught up on the thought of trading away the chance to draft Fultz. However, based on the top players expected to be available in 2018 via draft express and the fact that 2019 draft top pick, Marvin Bargley Jr., is a generational type talent. Then it's easy to see the rationale here.


Fultz

for

Jackson, Tatum, or Ball
+
2018 - Doncic, Porter, Ayton, or Bamba
+
2019 - Bagley Jr., Langford, Reddish, or Williamson


Now doesn't the thought of that take people off the ledge? Plus, we could potentially net (pun intended) two of those players in 2018.
The Lakers will have zero incentive to lose games next year, much less if they know for a fact that their pick belongs to the C's.

Ball - Clarkson
Russell
Ingram - Deng - Brewer
Randle - Nance Jr.
Mozgov - Zubac - Black

+ the 28th pick

This is not a bottom 5 team. Not to mention it's possible they trade for Paul George either this summer or at the trade deadline.

The Nets have had zero incentive to tank either and how'd that turn for them over the last 2 seasons? That team you mentioned, except for Ball, is the same team that finished 26-56 and had the 3rd worst record in the league.

Plus, they play in the West. Can you name the 5 teams that they're going to be better than?
Yeah but they were tanking hard cause they were in danger of losing both this year's pick and their 2019 first as well to the Magic. The way I see it, there is no way the Lakers lose that many games next season if they know for a fact that their pick belongs to the C's.


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Can you name the 5 teams that they're going to be better than?
Who knows? Let's say
Nets
Magic
Suns
Kings
Hornets
« Last Edit: June 17, 2017, 12:12:46 PM by Jvalin »

Re: If its between 2018 Lakers pick or 2019 Kings pick... (poll)
« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2017, 12:30:11 PM »

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People get too caught up on the thought of trading away the chance to draft Fultz. However, based on the top players expected to be available in 2018 via draft express and the fact that 2019 draft top pick, Marvin Bargley Jr., is a generational type talent. Then it's easy to see the rationale here.


Fultz

for

Jackson, Tatum, or Ball
+
2018 - Doncic, Porter, Ayton, or Bamba
+
2019 - Bagley Jr., Langford, Reddish, or Williamson


Now doesn't the thought of that take people off the ledge? Plus, we could potentially net (pun intended) two of those players in 2018.
The Lakers will have zero incentive to lose games next year, much less if they know for a fact that their pick belongs to the C's.

Ball - Clarkson
Russell
Ingram - Deng - Brewer
Randle - Nance Jr.
Mozgov - Zubac - Black

+ the 28th pick

This is not a bottom 5 team. Not to mention it's possible they trade for Paul George either this summer or at the trade deadline.

The Nets have had zero incentive to tank either and how'd that turn for them over the last 2 seasons? That team you mentioned, except for Ball, is the same team that finished 26-56 and had the 3rd worst record in the league.

Plus, they play in the West. Can you name the 5 teams that they're going to be better than?
Yeah but they were tanking hard cause they were in danger of losing both this year's pick and their 2019 first as well to the Magic. The way I see it, there is no way the Lakers lose that many games next season if they know for a fact that their pick belongs to the C's.


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Can you name the 5 teams that they're going to be better than?
Who knows? Let's say
Nets
Magic
Suns
Kings
Hornets

How exactly were they tanking hard? Management tanks, players don't. Players play to win, but they just aren't good to win so then the results and intention becomes blurred. The Lakers best 4 players (Clarkson, Russell, Randle, and Ingram), especially as it relates from a foundation point of view, played 82, 63, 74, and 79 games.

Out of the teams you mentioned you can make a case that the Suns and Magic will be better than the Lakers. As for the Hornets, you were clearly struggling to name a 5th team, so that's what led to you naming a team that won 10 more games than the Lakers last season and were a 6th seed the year prior with basically the same roster.

Re: If its between 2018 Lakers pick or 2019 Kings pick... (poll)
« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2017, 12:41:15 PM »

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People get too caught up on the thought of trading away the chance to draft Fultz. However, based on the top players expected to be available in 2018 via draft express and the fact that 2019 draft top pick, Marvin Bargley Jr., is a generational type talent. Then it's easy to see the rationale here.


Fultz

for

Jackson, Tatum, or Ball
+
2018 - Doncic, Porter, Ayton, or Bamba
+
2019 - Bagley Jr., Langford, Reddish, or Williamson


Now doesn't the thought of that take people off the ledge? Plus, we could potentially net (pun intended) two of those players in 2018.
The Lakers will have zero incentive to lose games next year, much less if they know for a fact that their pick belongs to the C's.

Ball - Clarkson
Russell
Ingram - Deng - Brewer
Randle - Nance Jr.
Mozgov - Zubac - Black

+ the 28th pick

This is not a bottom 5 team. Not to mention it's possible they trade for Paul George either this summer or at the trade deadline.

The Nets have had zero incentive to tank either and how'd that turn for them over the last 2 seasons? That team you mentioned, except for Ball, is the same team that finished 26-56 and had the 3rd worst record in the league.

Plus, they play in the West. Can you name the 5 teams that they're going to be better than?
Yeah but they were tanking hard cause they were in danger of losing both this year's pick and their 2019 first as well to the Magic. The way I see it, there is no way the Lakers lose that many games next season if they know for a fact that their pick belongs to the C's.


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Can you name the 5 teams that they're going to be better than?
Who knows? Let's say
Nets
Magic
Suns
Kings
Hornets
The Lakers were the worst defensive team.  Getting Ball isn't going to help that.  Even mediocre guards will be licking their chops to light up Ball and Russell.  Without Lou Williams, the Lakers were a bottom 5 offense.  Magic has already said that they are focused on 2018 free agency.  They are not going to do anything that makes it harder to get George next offseason.  The only way I see them improving much is if Ingram and Russell make huge jumps.