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Re: FIBA Eurobasket 2017, 31/8-17/9
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2017, 07:42:32 AM »

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I don't feel like commenting on the presence of Hungary with this roster in the tournament.... Maybe they should expand the tournament so the Vatican can also participate!!!


Btw
I had no idea about this offer sheet system in Spain.....

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« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2017, 07:46:54 AM »

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Hungary's preliminary roster



http://www.fiba.com/eurobasket/2017/news/hungary-set-to-commence-build-up-to-eurobasket-campaign

Their captain, Adam Hanga, is prolly their most well known player. Drafted by the Spurs at #59 in 2011, he currently plays for Baskonia.

Excuse me, but are you telling me Rosco Allen is NOT the most well-known player?

To me, the most well-known is DeAndre Kane, who was a terrific player at Iowa State his senior season.

Re: FIBA Eurobasket 2017, 31/8-17/9
« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2017, 09:47:11 AM »

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@saltlover

oh my, I lost far too many episodes in this year's summer league.

And I really have no clue about American college basketball  ;D

@ederson

I see your point, but this is how bball spreads in more countries tho. Think Germany 1993 and Greece 1987.

Giving the organization of the tournament to a country with little bball tradition + some help from the refs can work miracles.


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« Reply #33 on: July 17, 2017, 09:25:02 AM »

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@saltlover

oh my, I lost far too many episodes in this year's summer league.

And I really have no clue about American college basketball  ;D

@ederson

I see your point, but this is how bball spreads in more countries tho. Think Germany 1993 and Greece 1987.

Giving the organization of the tournament to a country with little bball tradition + some help from the refs can work miracles.

Well tried formula indeed! Works often.
It didn't work as well in '94 at the football WC.

Re: FIBA Eurobasket 2017, 31/8-17/9
« Reply #34 on: Yesterday at 11:22:12 AM »

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I'm on the road so I can't confirm this but I think agravanis will play with the junior NT.

a bit late correction but i was wrong.... With the u20 team is his brother Giannis
BTW in 3 hours is the final Greece - Israel free on youtube.

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« Reply #35 on: Yesterday at 11:32:03 AM »

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Power rankings by Amico Hoops

This author has 1. Spain 2. Greece 3. Serbia 4. Turkey 5. Croatia

And then Lithuania, France, and Italy in no particular order

FIBA's official site posted its own power rankings two weeks ago. IMO it's less good but has the advantage of having all the teams, and having a quick infobox on each of them.

It goes: 1. Spain 2. Serbia 3. Croatia 3. Greece 5. France 6. Italy 7. Lithuania 8. Italy

My own take is that Spain and Serbia have the best rosters because they combine talent wth experience. But both power rankings IMO underestimate Turkey. They will play all games at home.

Moreover, they have a good schedule. They are in the same group (D) with Serbia, which means if they finish first and Serbia second (or vice versa) they will not face each other until the finals. Finally, Spain being in group C could turn out well for Turkey's schedule in the knock-out round.

Bottom line is Turkey is guaranteed to get through its group, and assuming nothing goes awfully wrong at the quarterfinals, they will have to win one of two games at home to win a medal. I'm also pretty sure FIBA wouldn't mind Turkey doing well.

@ederson iirc you mentioned some power rankings earlier, would be great if you had a link to add to the above.

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Re: FIBA Eurobasket 2017, 31/8-17/9
« Reply #36 on: Yesterday at 12:05:02 PM »

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It wasn't power rankings but betting odds
Spain Serbia Greece

imho Greece ranks to high but i fail to see which team could take the spot....

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It wasn't power rankings but betting odds
Spain Serbia Greece

imho Greece ranks to high but i fail to see which team could take the spot....

Thanks appreciated.

I was confused by the Aggravanises too. I havenīt followed the Greek league closely since the late 90s.

The older one is Dimitris, playing for Olympiacos, 23 yo iirc. The young one is Giannis Agravanis. An article I found from May 2017 says he is 18 yo and playing for Douka, a team in the Greek second division, A2. But I know very little about young Greek prospects.

PS To the point that only now did I realize we are the champions. 65-56 vs Israel. Thanks for mentioning the finals Ederson, I wouldn't have noticed it otherwise.

PPS doing my national duty and watching the vid uploaded by FIBA. A pretty atrocious first quarter so far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9HnoxmG5i8

Charalampo won MVP. I'm also told that the PG, Koniaris, who plays for PAOK Salonica was good. Israel's PG is Blatt's son btw and I'm reading now he had a good tournament.
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