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Re: Woj, Stein, & Lowe - C's and Sixers in serious talks for #1 pick
« Reply #570 on: June 17, 2017, 05:27:43 PM »

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what can the lakers offer

I don't know, Ivica Zubac? Rights to switch picks in 2019 (for our own). 2021 or 2022 unprotected 1st. Tariq Black. Julius Randle. Some of those.
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Re: Woj, Stein, & Lowe - C's and Sixers in serious talks for #1 pick
« Reply #571 on: June 17, 2017, 05:34:30 PM »

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what can the lakers offer

I don't know, Ivica Zubac? Rights to switch picks in 2019 (for our own). 2021 or 2022 unprotected 1st. Tariq Black. Julius Randle. Some of those.

I just can't see DAnny nor Magic doing this lol....  especially just in case one prospect turns out to be better than the other or Danny fleeces the Lakers.....we will never  hear the end of it

Maybe in the end the 76ers will have to pay "bully" money to both Celtics and Lakers to get their guy....

or things take a life of its own and Celtics, Lakers, 76ers make a 3 way trade
 

Re: Woj, Stein, & Lowe - C's and Sixers in serious talks for #1 pick
« Reply #572 on: June 17, 2017, 05:48:27 PM »

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Lakers leverage is limited if they want Ball.

Re: Woj, Stein, & Lowe - C's and Sixers in serious talks for #1 pick
« Reply #573 on: June 17, 2017, 06:00:40 PM »

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what can the lakers offer

I don't know, Ivica Zubac? Rights to switch picks in 2019 (for our own). 2021 or 2022 unprotected 1st. Tariq Black. Julius Randle. Some of those.

I just can't see DAnny nor Magic doing this lol....  especially just in case one prospect turns out to be better than the other or Danny fleeces the Lakers.....we will never  hear the end of it

Maybe in the end the 76ers will have to pay "bully" money to both Celtics and Lakers to get their guy....

or things take a life of its own and Celtics, Lakers, 76ers make a 3 way trade
LAL also have Ingram and Russel but neither is worth Fultz so it would have to be in a package and we would need to give a player up

Re: Woj, Stein, & Lowe - C's and Sixers in serious talks for #1 pick
« Reply #574 on: June 17, 2017, 06:05:25 PM »

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#Lakers can screws things up by drafting Josh Jackson. That's why word out of Boston is #Celtics want to wait until draft night.

I threw up in my mouth when I just read that. So disappointing my only hope is that the Fakers save us. I HATE wings that can't shoot, they have no place in the league!

Good news for me is I don't think the Fakers will take Ball so they could block this!!!


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« Reply #575 on: June 17, 2017, 06:12:06 PM »

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what can the lakers offer

I don't know, Ivica Zubac? Rights to switch picks in 2019 (for our own). 2021 or 2022 unprotected 1st. Tariq Black. Julius Randle. Some of those.

I just can't see DAnny nor Magic doing this lol....  especially just in case one prospect turns out to be better than the other or Danny fleeces the Lakers.....we will never  hear the end of it

Maybe in the end the 76ers will have to pay "bully" money to both Celtics and Lakers to get their guy....

or things take a life of its own and Celtics, Lakers, 76ers make a 3 way trade

Then we keep Fultz. It's not going to be the end of the world to get stuck with arguably the best player of this draft.
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C: Jermaine O'neal / Ben Wallace

Re: Woj, Stein, & Lowe - C's and Sixers in serious talks for #1 pick
« Reply #576 on: June 17, 2017, 06:47:09 PM »

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Last year the Sixers had the #1 pick and the C's had #3 with the Lakers at #2 both times.

Colangelo refused to even consider any kind of trade with Danny for the #1. Maybe Danny is just screwing with Colangelo and teasing him but won't pull the trigger.

The thing is I just can't imagine Danny offered up Brooklyn's 17 pick plus last year's #3 (Jaylen Brown) for the #1 (Simmons).  And I'd say Jackson at three this year is more valuable than Brown at three last year.

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« Reply #577 on: June 17, 2017, 09:48:06 PM »

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The negative nellies here need to get a grip. Ainge knows better than we do.

THIS^^^^^^^

He has more knowledge and information.

That doesn't mean he's always right.

By your own admission his process is exponentially superior. So I think it does mean he's always right. But it just doesn't always turn out "right."

Re: Woj, Stein, & Lowe - C's and Sixers in serious talks for #1 pick
« Reply #578 on: June 17, 2017, 09:55:14 PM »

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The negative nellies here need to get a grip. Ainge knows better than we do.

THIS^^^^^^^

He has more knowledge and information.

That doesn't mean he's always right.

By your own admission his process is exponentially superior. So I think it does mean he's always right. But it just doesn't always turn out "right."

That makes zero sense. Even when a GM is wrong he's right?

So, Billy King was right when he made the KG/Pierce trade? The Blazers were correct when they passed on Jordan and Durant? And if Danny picks Luke Kennard #1, he's still right, and by extensions, fans who object are wrong?

A better process doesn't guarantee a better result. And, as an aside, don't put words in my mouth. I made no such admission.


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Re: Woj, Stein, & Lowe - C's and Sixers in serious talks for #1 pick
« Reply #579 on: June 17, 2017, 10:03:50 PM »

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Who here thinks they know the draft and trade values better than Ainge? Raise your hand, everyone who's mad about these rumors. Hands up yet? Okay, good. Now, read this closely and get it through your heads:

YOU ARE WRONG.
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« Reply #580 on: June 17, 2017, 10:10:33 PM »

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And, as an aside, don't put words in my mouth. I made no such admission.

Bro, you can't even admit that Ainge's process is exponentially superior to yours? Are you serious? You admit that he has more knowledge and information, but you think your evaluation process is in the same ballpark as his? Get real. Admit it.
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« Reply #581 on: June 17, 2017, 10:13:04 PM »

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And, as an aside, don't put words in my mouth. I made no such admission.

Bro, you can't even admit that Ainge's process is exponentially superior to yours? Are you serious? You admit that he has more knowledge and information, but you think your evaluation process is in the same ballpark as his? Get real. Admit it.

You mad? ;D

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« Reply #582 on: June 17, 2017, 10:14:20 PM »

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#Lakers can screws things up by drafting Josh Jackson. That's why word out of Boston is #Celtics want to wait until draft night.

I threw up in my mouth when I just read that. So disappointing my only hope is that the Fakers save us. I HATE wings that can't shoot, they have no place in the league!

Good news for me is I don't think the Fakers will take Ball so they could block this!!!
Wings that can't shoot, by whom I assume you mean Jackson.

Jackson shot 55% last season and was 38% from three point land.  Over the last two months he shot 47% from three point land.  In his freshman season his FT percentage went up each month.

Pretty high bar you have set there.
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Re: Woj, Stein, & Lowe - C's and Sixers in serious talks for #1 pick
« Reply #583 on: June 17, 2017, 10:18:25 PM »

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And, as an aside, don't put words in my mouth. I made no such admission.

Bro, you can't even admit that Ainge's process is exponentially superior to yours? Are you serious? You admit that he has more knowledge and information, but you think your evaluation process is in the same ballpark as his? Get real. Admit it.

I'm not sure that you know what "exponentially" means.

Danny's process is better. Is it "exponentially" better than that of the experts that fans follow? Game film, analytics, measurements, etc. are all available to the public.

Results matter. If you compared Danny's picks to, say, Jonathon Givony, would there be an "exponential" difference? Again, unless you don't know what the word means, the answer is clearly no.

Bro. Lol.



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« Reply #584 on: June 17, 2017, 10:19:26 PM »

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Forums are much more palatable when you understand armchair experts are infinitely more skilled in talent evaluation and have far more up to the minute information at their disposal than those with lifelong careers working at the coalface.