Did Lebron get robbed a finals MVP?

[GratefulCs]

if it went 7 games then maybe he could get it

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but he won 1 game

[Donoghus]

Absolutely not. 

Triple Double or not, his team lost a series in 5 games.   Certainly not close enough to make up the difference.  It would've looked ridiculous.

[Big333223]

LeBron was far and away the best player on the floor.

Durant just had more help. Less responsibility and more energy to do what he does best.

LeBron should have been MVP in my eyes.

Far and Away? Definitely No. Heck at times It seemed Durant was the best player in the league in this series.

Also your argument is weak, you could also say that because he had more responsibility that he posted better numbers.

LeBron's impact was constant throughout the game. Every possession.

Durant was not. He popped in and out of the game. At times taking over. At times letting Steph take over. Or Draymond take over. Sometimes Klay. Durant had the most big moments of the four but he was not as constant throughout games dominating at the level LeBron was.

You mean like how he takes plays off on D? How he settled for jumpers when he couldve driven strong to the hoop? How about when he complains to the refs allowing GS 4v5 fastbreak?

Lebron played great, but you are spitting a bunch of hyperbolic nonsense to fit your narrative (or sourgraping)

I respect Lebron a whole lot more than Durant, esp after he moved to GS, but come on, you cant be serious. 

Yes I am. LeBron impacted the game and helped his team on far more possessions / more regularly than Durant did. LeBron was clearly the best player on either team.

I think this assumes that a player can only impact the game when he has the ball. James had the ball more than Durant did through the series, yes, but I think when Durant didn't have the ball, he was still making an impact within GS's offense by moving, screening, and drawing defenders with his shooting. I also think Durant made a bigger impact with his defense than James did with his.

[D Dub]

Lebron is not an MVP because he consistently turns his teammates into role players.  Ever notice how Kevin Love in Cleveland plays the same way as Chris Bosh did in Miami?

LBJ isn't a good teammate in that the only offensive system he can comprehend is isolation hero-ball.  Now that he's older, can't score 25 in a row like that Detroit game from so many years ago, he leans on guys like Kyrie, also an ISO specialist, to take turns with. 

That's not pro basketball.  That's AAU's all time leading hero baller.   Lebron could have been so better if he had received ANY kind of coaching.   Learn to share the ball, play system defense etc etc. 

So when you consider his style of play -- of course he ALWAYS looks dominate -- how can you not when you dominate the ball so much? 

But holding the dubs motion offense against KD, as if he should have "taken over" and played more "hero-ball" is a preposterous thing to do.  It's the kind of thing you say when you slept through the game and derive your opinions from the box score.  The guy shut LBJ down in isolation time and time again.  Hit EVERY big shot for the dubs.   Couldn't be defended, like not even at all. 

Durant is the best player in the world right now.   
Playing for the greatest team of all time doesn't diminish that. 

[CelticsElite]

Absolutely not. 

Triple Double or not, his team lost a series in 5 games.   Certainly not close enough to make up the difference.  It would've looked ridiculous.

his team lost cuz he faced 15 all stars and all he had was Irving and 37 year old richard jefferson.  Lebron was the best player on the court. Double the assists of Durant and more rebounds

[Donoghus]

Absolutely not. 

Triple Double or not, his team lost a series in 5 games.   Certainly not close enough to make up the difference.  It would've looked ridiculous.

his team lost cuz he faced 15 all stars and all he had was Irving and 37 year old richard jefferson.  Lebron was the best player on the court. Double the assists of Durant and more rebounds

So what?  His team lost in 5 games.  How can you be "MOST" valuable if your team loses the series?

And we're not even talking a 7 game series here or anything.  5 games.  4-1.   Stats are pretty but context helps.

[Birdman]

MVPs go in winning teams. Period.

agree

[CelticsElite]

Absolutely not. 

Triple Double or not, his team lost a series in 5 games.   Certainly not close enough to make up the difference.  It would've looked ridiculous.

his team lost cuz he faced 15 all stars and all he had was Irving and 37 year old richard jefferson.  Lebron was the best player on the court. Double the assists of Durant and more rebounds

So what?  His team lost in 5 games.  How can you be "MOST" valuable if your team loses the series?

And we're not even talking a 7 game series here or anything.  5 games.  4-1.   Stats are pretty but context helps.

you realize the first guy who won the finals MVP award lost his finals series right? It was created to award the best player in the finals period. It has nothing to do with the team hence PLAYER in the award name not PLAYERS

[Donoghus]

Absolutely not. 

Triple Double or not, his team lost a series in 5 games.   Certainly not close enough to make up the difference.  It would've looked ridiculous.

his team lost cuz he faced 15 all stars and all he had was Irving and 37 year old richard jefferson.  Lebron was the best player on the court. Double the assists of Durant and more rebounds

So what?  His team lost in 5 games.  How can you be "MOST" valuable if your team loses the series?

And we're not even talking a 7 game series here or anything.  5 games.  4-1.   Stats are pretty but context helps.

you realize the first guy who won the finals MVP award lost his finals series right? It was created to award the best player in the finals period. It has nothing to do with the team hence PLAYER in the award name not PLAYERS

Yeah, in a SEVEN GAME SERIES.    It was also nearly 50 years ago and has not happened since.  Hmmm.... maybe because people came to their good senses and realized the concept was a bit ridiculous. 

The fact that it hasn't happened since 1969 might be a little telling, don't you think?

[Ed Hollison]

There's a reason that the Finals MVP award is named after Bill Russell, and not Wilt Chamberlain or anyone else. The point of basketball is to win, not to compile stats or perform well one-on-one within the game. This attitude -- that Lebron is the real MVP despite the fact that his team lost 1-4 -- is the same one underlying ESPN's ranking of Bill Russell as only the 7th-greatest player of all-time, despite winning 5 MVPs and 11 championships.

[CelticsElite]

Absolutely not. 

Triple Double or not, his team lost a series in 5 games.   Certainly not close enough to make up the difference.  It would've looked ridiculous.

his team lost cuz he faced 15 all stars and all he had was Irving and 37 year old richard jefferson.  Lebron was the best player on the court. Double the assists of Durant and more rebounds

So what?  His team lost in 5 games.  How can you be "MOST" valuable if your team loses the series?

And we're not even talking a 7 game series here or anything.  5 games.  4-1.   Stats are pretty but context helps.

you realize the first guy who won the finals MVP award lost his finals series right? It was created to award the best player in the finals period. It has nothing to do with the team hence PLAYER in the award name not PLAYERS

Yeah, in a SEVEN GAME SERIES.    It was also nearly 50 years ago and has not happened since.  Hmmm.... maybe because people came to their good senses and realized the concept was a bit ridiculous. 

The fact that it hasn't happened since 1969 might be a little telling, don't you think?

so he lost and won MVP. Got it. You know what also hasn't happened since 1969 or ever? Someone averaging a triple double in the finals

[Ed Hollison]

his team lost cuz he faced 15 all stars and all he had was Irving and 37 year old richard jefferson. 

Can't understand this line of reasoning for Lebron, though it's so common. The fact is that two years ago he signed with a team that already had one of the best guards in the game, Kyrie Irving, and on top of that had just won the top pick in back-to-back drafts. What else do you want?

This past year Lebron played alongside two other all stars, plus one of the league's top re bounders in Tristan Thompson. JR Smith ain't exactly a bum, either; he's 31 and once averaged 18ppg.

Lebron is great, but let's be real about his career. If there's a superstar spectrum with Bill Russell on one end and Wilt Chamberlain on the other, he's closer to Chamberlain than Russell.

[Donoghus]

Absolutely not. 

Triple Double or not, his team lost a series in 5 games.   Certainly not close enough to make up the difference.  It would've looked ridiculous.

his team lost cuz he faced 15 all stars and all he had was Irving and 37 year old richard jefferson.  Lebron was the best player on the court. Double the assists of Durant and more rebounds

So what?  His team lost in 5 games.  How can you be "MOST" valuable if your team loses the series?

And we're not even talking a 7 game series here or anything.  5 games.  4-1.   Stats are pretty but context helps.

you realize the first guy who won the finals MVP award lost his finals series right? It was created to award the best player in the finals period. It has nothing to do with the team hence PLAYER in the award name not PLAYERS

Yeah, in a SEVEN GAME SERIES.    It was also nearly 50 years ago and has not happened since.  Hmmm.... maybe because people came to their good senses and realized the concept was a bit ridiculous. 

The fact that it hasn't happened since 1969 might be a little telling, don't you think?

so he lost and won MVP. Got it. You know what also hasn't happened since 1969 or ever? Someone averaging a triple double in the finals

Who cares.  If you want to hang your hat on Jerry West doing something nearly a half century, have at it.

Kicking & stomping your feet about it isn't going to change the fact that Lebron a) was on the losing team here & b) didn't win the Finals MVP award.

Like I said before, stats are pretty but context matters.

[Ilikesports17]

If you want to assign win shares he doesn't get the most.

[Ilikesports17]

Absolutely not. 

Triple Double or not, his team lost a series in 5 games.   Certainly not close enough to make up the difference.  It would've looked ridiculous.

his team lost cuz he faced 15 all stars and all he had was Irving and 37 year old richard jefferson.  Lebron was the best player on the court. Double the assists of Durant and more rebounds

So what?  His team lost in 5 games.  How can you be "MOST" valuable if your team loses the series?

And we're not even talking a 7 game series here or anything.  5 games.  4-1.   Stats are pretty but context helps.

you realize the first guy who won the finals MVP award lost his finals series right? It was created to award the best player in the finals period. It has nothing to do with the team hence PLAYER in the award name not PLAYERS

Yeah, in a SEVEN GAME SERIES.    It was also nearly 50 years ago and has not happened since.  Hmmm.... maybe because people came to their good senses and realized the concept was a bit ridiculous. 

The fact that it hasn't happened since 1969 might be a little telling, don't you think?

so he lost and won MVP. Got it. You know what also hasn't happened since 1969 or ever? Someone averaging a triple double in the finals

Who cares.  If you want to hang your hat on Jerry West doing something nearly a half century, have at it.

Kicking & stomping your feet about it isn't going to change the fact that Lebron a) was on the losing team here & b) didn't win the Finals MVP award.

Like I said before, stats are pretty but context matters.

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