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Re: Rumor: Josh Jackson has a top-3 promise
« Reply #60 on: June 12, 2017, 11:24:19 PM »

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. Jackson is suppose to have a work out with Bos, lets see if he cancels that.

link?

I saw it some where on here, and herd it on one of the sport show, don't ask which one, they tend to blur. It could even have been they are trying for one, but I swear that had one locked in at some point.

There's your answer:

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High lottery pick Josh Jackson canceled today's workout with the Boston Celtics, source told me and @MarcJSpearsESPN.

https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/874464847303516161

What is this supposed to intimate? Why would he cancel a visit to the team with the number one pick other than A) Danny telling him he's straight up not going to pick him or B) Danny giving him a draft promise?

I'd much rather have A than B in this scenario (most likely meaning Danny has already decided on picking Fultz, which I think has already happened anyways), but I don't see either of them as likely at all. And I wouldn't understand the logic of canceling with the top pick just because you have a promise from LA or Philly.
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Re: Rumor: Josh Jackson has a top-3 promise
« Reply #61 on: June 12, 2017, 11:25:11 PM »

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. Jackson is suppose to have a work out with Bos, lets see if he cancels that.

link?

I saw it some where on here, and herd it on one of the sport show, don't ask which one, they tend to blur. It could even have been they are trying for one, but I swear that had one locked in at some point.

There's your answer:

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High lottery pick Josh Jackson canceled today's workout with the Boston Celtics, source told me and @MarcJSpearsESPN.

https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/874464847303516161

What is this supposed to intimate? Why would he cancel a visit to the team with the number one pick other than A) Danny telling him he's straight up not going to pick him or B) Danny giving him a draft promise?

I'd much rather have A than B in this scenario (most likely meaning Fultz), but I don't see either of them as likely at all. And I wouldn't understand the logic of canceling with the top pick just because you have a promise from LA or Philly.


C. He has a promise from another team that he'd prefer to go to.

Could be anything: desire to play in LA, ability to play a big role, etc.
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Re: Rumor: Josh Jackson has a top-3 promise
« Reply #62 on: June 12, 2017, 11:29:46 PM »

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. Jackson is suppose to have a work out with Bos, lets see if he cancels that.

link?

I saw it some where on here, and herd it on one of the sport show, don't ask which one, they tend to blur. It could even have been they are trying for one, but I swear that had one locked in at some point.

There's your answer:

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High lottery pick Josh Jackson canceled today's workout with the Boston Celtics, source told me and @MarcJSpearsESPN.

https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/874464847303516161

What is this supposed to intimate? Why would he cancel a visit to the team with the number one pick other than A) Danny telling him he's straight up not going to pick him or B) Danny giving him a draft promise?

I'd much rather have A than B in this scenario (most likely meaning Fultz), but I don't see either of them as likely at all. And I wouldn't understand the logic of canceling with the top pick just because you have a promise from LA or Philly.


C. He has a promise from another team that he'd prefer to go to.

Ah, I guess I wasn't considering the "playing time" factor, too. Are people thinking it's LA or Philly? Between this and the leaks about Ball underwhelming in his LA visit, I find these "leaks" a bit too obvious to be factual and true, especially being right before the draft with how many lies are usually "leaked" like this.

In addition to actually being true, it very well could be either A) Magic downplaying Ball's workouts to try and persuade Boston not to take him (which I think is stupid since Fultz seems like a vastly superior prospect at this point), or B) the Colangelos trying to pump up Jackson to get LA to take him and have Ball fall to them.
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Re: Rumor: Josh Jackson has a top-3 promise
« Reply #63 on: June 12, 2017, 11:34:38 PM »

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. Jackson is suppose to have a work out with Bos, lets see if he cancels that.

link?

I saw it some where on here, and herd it on one of the sport show, don't ask which one, they tend to blur. It could even have been they are trying for one, but I swear that had one locked in at some point.

There's your answer:

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High lottery pick Josh Jackson canceled today's workout with the Boston Celtics, source told me and @MarcJSpearsESPN.

https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/874464847303516161

What is this supposed to intimate? Why would he cancel a visit to the team with the number one pick other than A) Danny telling him he's straight up not going to pick him or B) Danny giving him a draft promise?

I'd much rather have A than B in this scenario (most likely meaning Fultz), but I don't see either of them as likely at all. And I wouldn't understand the logic of canceling with the top pick just because you have a promise from LA or Philly.


C. He has a promise from another team that he'd prefer to go to.

Ah, I guess I wasn't considering the "playing time" factor, too. Are people thinking it's LA or Philly? Between this and the leaks about Ball underwhelming in his LA visit, I find these "leaks" a bit too obvious to be factual and true, especially being right before the draft with how many lies are usually "leaked" like this.

In addition to actually being true, it very well could be either A) Magic downplaying Ball's workouts to try and persuade Boston not to take him (which I think is stupid since Fultz seems like a vastly superior prospect at this point), or B) the Colangelos trying to pump up Jackson to get LA to take him and have Ball fall to them.

I'm going to speculate and say it's the Lakers. Ball to the Lakers always felt a bit too perfect to me, and the situation was definitely reminiscent of Okafor two years ago.
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Re: Rumor: Josh Jackson has a top-3 promise
« Reply #64 on: June 12, 2017, 11:46:29 PM »

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. Jackson is suppose to have a work out with Bos, lets see if he cancels that.

link?

I saw it some where on here, and herd it on one of the sport show, don't ask which one, they tend to blur. It could even have been they are trying for one, but I swear that had one locked in at some point.

There's your answer:

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High lottery pick Josh Jackson canceled today's workout with the Boston Celtics, source told me and @MarcJSpearsESPN.

https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/874464847303516161

What is this supposed to intimate? Why would he cancel a visit to the team with the number one pick other than A) Danny telling him he's straight up not going to pick him or B) Danny giving him a draft promise?

I'd much rather have A than B in this scenario (most likely meaning Fultz), but I don't see either of them as likely at all. And I wouldn't understand the logic of canceling with the top pick just because you have a promise from LA or Philly.


C. He has a promise from another team that he'd prefer to go to.

Ah, I guess I wasn't considering the "playing time" factor, too. Are people thinking it's LA or Philly? Between this and the leaks about Ball underwhelming in his LA visit, I find these "leaks" a bit too obvious to be factual and true, especially being right before the draft with how many lies are usually "leaked" like this.

In addition to actually being true, it very well could be either A) Magic downplaying Ball's workouts to try and persuade Boston not to take him (which I think is stupid since Fultz seems like a vastly superior prospect at this point), or B) the Colangelos trying to pump up Jackson to get LA to take him and have Ball fall to them.

I'm going to speculate and say it's the Lakers. Ball to the Lakers always felt a bit too perfect to me, and the situation was definitely reminiscent of Okafor two years ago.

I think he's certainly a better fit with their current squad than Ball. I like the fit of Jackson between Russell and Ingram, or vice versa if you see Ingram as the 2 and Jackson as the 3.

I'm not sure about the fit of Ball in Philly, though. I don't think Ball and Simmons are a good pairing, since I think they're actually pretty similar players at differing sizes and positions. And that only takes more touches away from Embiid, who should have the ball the majority of the time anyways.

Granted, I'm not sure that Philly would take Ball, either. They might have Fox higher on their list, especially with loud-mouth Lavar attached to Lonzo.
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Re: Rumor: Josh Jackson has a top-3 promise
« Reply #65 on: June 12, 2017, 11:49:02 PM »

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. Jackson is suppose to have a work out with Bos, lets see if he cancels that.

link?

I saw it some where on here, and herd it on one of the sport show, don't ask which one, they tend to blur. It could even have been they are trying for one, but I swear that had one locked in at some point.

There's your answer:

Quote
High lottery pick Josh Jackson canceled today's workout with the Boston Celtics, source told me and @MarcJSpearsESPN.

https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/874464847303516161

What is this supposed to intimate? Why would he cancel a visit to the team with the number one pick other than A) Danny telling him he's straight up not going to pick him or B) Danny giving him a draft promise?

I'd much rather have A than B in this scenario (most likely meaning Fultz), but I don't see either of them as likely at all. And I wouldn't understand the logic of canceling with the top pick just because you have a promise from LA or Philly.


C. He has a promise from another team that he'd prefer to go to.

Ah, I guess I wasn't considering the "playing time" factor, too. Are people thinking it's LA or Philly? Between this and the leaks about Ball underwhelming in his LA visit, I find these "leaks" a bit too obvious to be factual and true, especially being right before the draft with how many lies are usually "leaked" like this.

In addition to actually being true, it very well could be either A) Magic downplaying Ball's workouts to try and persuade Boston not to take him (which I think is stupid since Fultz seems like a vastly superior prospect at this point), or B) the Colangelos trying to pump up Jackson to get LA to take him and have Ball fall to them.

I'm going to speculate and say it's the Lakers. Ball to the Lakers always felt a bit too perfect to me, and the situation was definitely reminiscent of Okafor two years ago.

I think he's certainly a better fit with their current squad than Ball. I like the fit of Jackson between Russell and Ingram, or vice versa if you see Ingram as the 2 and Jackson as the 3.

I'm not sure about the fit of Ball in Philly, though. I don't think Ball and Simmons are a good pairing, since I think they're actually pretty similar players at differing sizes and positions. And that only takes more touches away from Embiid, who should have the ball the majority of the time anyways.

Granted, I'm not sure that Philly would take Ball, either. They might have Fox higher on their list, especially with loud-mouth Lavar attached to Lonzo.

I love Lonzo's fit in Philly (well, not from a Celtics standpoint). Lonzo is seriously fantastic off-ball; Lonzo-Simmons-Embiid is going to be TOUGH to top, even with Markelle in Boston.
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Re: Rumor: Josh Jackson has a top-3 promise
« Reply #66 on: June 13, 2017, 12:05:57 AM »

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. Jackson is suppose to have a work out with Bos, lets see if he cancels that.

link?

I saw it some where on here, and herd it on one of the sport show, don't ask which one, they tend to blur. It could even have been they are trying for one, but I swear that had one locked in at some point.

There's your answer:

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High lottery pick Josh Jackson canceled today's workout with the Boston Celtics, source told me and @MarcJSpearsESPN.

https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/874464847303516161

What is this supposed to intimate? Why would he cancel a visit to the team with the number one pick other than A) Danny telling him he's straight up not going to pick him or B) Danny giving him a draft promise?

I'd much rather have A than B in this scenario (most likely meaning Fultz), but I don't see either of them as likely at all. And I wouldn't understand the logic of canceling with the top pick just because you have a promise from LA or Philly.


C. He has a promise from another team that he'd prefer to go to.

Ah, I guess I wasn't considering the "playing time" factor, too. Are people thinking it's LA or Philly? Between this and the leaks about Ball underwhelming in his LA visit, I find these "leaks" a bit too obvious to be factual and true, especially being right before the draft with how many lies are usually "leaked" like this.

In addition to actually being true, it very well could be either A) Magic downplaying Ball's workouts to try and persuade Boston not to take him (which I think is stupid since Fultz seems like a vastly superior prospect at this point), or B) the Colangelos trying to pump up Jackson to get LA to take him and have Ball fall to them.

I'm going to speculate and say it's the Lakers. Ball to the Lakers always felt a bit too perfect to me, and the situation was definitely reminiscent of Okafor two years ago.

I think he's certainly a better fit with their current squad than Ball. I like the fit of Jackson between Russell and Ingram, or vice versa if you see Ingram as the 2 and Jackson as the 3.

I'm not sure about the fit of Ball in Philly, though. I don't think Ball and Simmons are a good pairing, since I think they're actually pretty similar players at differing sizes and positions. And that only takes more touches away from Embiid, who should have the ball the majority of the time anyways.

Granted, I'm not sure that Philly would take Ball, either. They might have Fox higher on their list, especially with loud-mouth Lavar attached to Lonzo.

I love Lonzo's fit in Philly (well, not from a Celtics standpoint). Lonzo is seriously fantastic off-ball; Lonzo-Simmons-Embiid is going to be TOUGH to top, even with Markelle in Boston.

Nope i think he is a bad fit, and the sixers fan most certainly agree with that.

Re: Rumor: Josh Jackson has a top-3 promise
« Reply #67 on: June 13, 2017, 12:08:34 AM »

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. Jackson is suppose to have a work out with Bos, lets see if he cancels that.

link?

I saw it some where on here, and herd it on one of the sport show, don't ask which one, they tend to blur. It could even have been they are trying for one, but I swear that had one locked in at some point.

There's your answer:

Quote
High lottery pick Josh Jackson canceled today's workout with the Boston Celtics, source told me and @MarcJSpearsESPN.

https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/874464847303516161

What is this supposed to intimate? Why would he cancel a visit to the team with the number one pick other than A) Danny telling him he's straight up not going to pick him or B) Danny giving him a draft promise?

I'd much rather have A than B in this scenario (most likely meaning Fultz), but I don't see either of them as likely at all. And I wouldn't understand the logic of canceling with the top pick just because you have a promise from LA or Philly.


C. He has a promise from another team that he'd prefer to go to.

Ah, I guess I wasn't considering the "playing time" factor, too. Are people thinking it's LA or Philly? Between this and the leaks about Ball underwhelming in his LA visit, I find these "leaks" a bit too obvious to be factual and true, especially being right before the draft with how many lies are usually "leaked" like this.

In addition to actually being true, it very well could be either A) Magic downplaying Ball's workouts to try and persuade Boston not to take him (which I think is stupid since Fultz seems like a vastly superior prospect at this point), or B) the Colangelos trying to pump up Jackson to get LA to take him and have Ball fall to them.

I'm going to speculate and say it's the Lakers. Ball to the Lakers always felt a bit too perfect to me, and the situation was definitely reminiscent of Okafor two years ago.

I think he's certainly a better fit with their current squad than Ball. I like the fit of Jackson between Russell and Ingram, or vice versa if you see Ingram as the 2 and Jackson as the 3.

I'm not sure about the fit of Ball in Philly, though. I don't think Ball and Simmons are a good pairing, since I think they're actually pretty similar players at differing sizes and positions. And that only takes more touches away from Embiid, who should have the ball the majority of the time anyways.

Granted, I'm not sure that Philly would take Ball, either. They might have Fox higher on their list, especially with loud-mouth Lavar attached to Lonzo.

I love Lonzo's fit in Philly (well, not from a Celtics standpoint). Lonzo is seriously fantastic off-ball; Lonzo-Simmons-Embiid is going to be TOUGH to top, even with Markelle in Boston.

Nope i think he is a bad fit, and the sixers fan most certainly agree with that.

Actually, they don't:

http://www.libertyballers.com/2017/6/6/15745482/2017-liberty-ballers-community-big-board-no-2-markelle-fultz-top-choice-lonzo-ball-josh-jackson#poll-results
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Re: Rumor: Josh Jackson has a top-3 promise
« Reply #68 on: June 13, 2017, 12:16:33 AM »

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Quote from: Sketch5 date=1497310842
. Jackson is suppose to have a work out with Bos, lets see if he cancels that.

link?

I saw it some where on here, and herd it on one of the sport show, don't ask which one, they tend to blur. It could even have been they are trying for one, but I swear that had one locked in at some point.

There's your answer:

Quote
High lottery pick Josh Jackson canceled today's workout with the Boston Celtics, source told me and @MarcJSpearsESPN.

https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/874464847303516161

What is this supposed to intimate? Why would he cancel a visit to the team with the number one pick other than A) Danny telling him he's straight up not going to pick him or B) Danny giving him a draft promise?

I'd much rather have A than B in this scenario (most likely meaning Fultz), but I don't see either of them as likely at all. And I wouldn't understand the logic of canceling with the top pick just because you have a promise from LA or Philly.


C. He has a promise from another team that he'd prefer to go to.

Ah, I guess I wasn't considering the "playing time" factor, too. Are people thinking it's LA or Philly? Between this and the leaks about Ball underwhelming in his LA visit, I find these "leaks" a bit too obvious to be factual and true, especially being right before the draft with how many lies are usually "leaked" like this.

In addition to actually being true, it very well could be either A) Magic downplaying Ball's workouts to try and persuade Boston not to take him (which I think is stupid since Fultz seems like a vastly superior prospect at this point), or B) the Colangelos trying to pump up Jackson to get LA to take him and have Ball fall to them.

I'm going to speculate and say it's the Lakers. Ball to the Lakers always felt a bit too perfect to me, and the situation was definitely reminiscent of Okafor two years ago.

I think he's certainly a better fit with their current squad than Ball. I like the fit of Jackson between Russell and Ingram, or vice versa if you see Ingram as the 2 and Jackson as the 3.

I'm not sure about the fit of Ball in Philly, though. I don't think Ball and Simmons are a good pairing, since I think they're actually pretty similar players at differing sizes and positions. And that only takes more touches away from Embiid, who should have the ball the majority of the time anyways.

Granted, I'm not sure that Philly would take Ball, either. They might have Fox higher on their list, especially with loud-mouth Lavar attached to Lonzo.

I love Lonzo's fit in Philly (well, not from a Celtics standpoint). Lonzo is seriously fantastic off-ball; Lonzo-Simmons-Embiid is going to be TOUGH to top, even with Markelle in Boston.

Nope i think he is a bad fit, and the sixers fan most certainly agree with that.

Actually, they don't:

http://www.libertyballers.com/2017/6/6/15745482/2017-liberty-ballers-community-big-board-no-2-markelle-fultz-top-choice-lonzo-ball-josh-jackson#poll-results

To be fair, apparently both Jackson and Monk were left off that polling list by mistake, which the LB staff admitted in their next article. I'd say that has a lot to do with it, because in my experience over at LB Ball hasn't been that highly regarded by most of the fans, as that article itself even admits. I think Jackson would've been the pick if he would've actually been included.

EDIT: They may have fixed it and re-ran it with Jackson in there after looking at some other links, but I do think the fanbase at LB is pretty split on Ball still.
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Re: Rumor: Josh Jackson has a top-3 promise
« Reply #69 on: June 13, 2017, 12:23:18 AM »

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. Jackson is suppose to have a work out with Bos, lets see if he cancels that.

link?

I saw it some where on here, and herd it on one of the sport show, don't ask which one, they tend to blur. It could even have been they are trying for one, but I swear that had one locked in at some point.

There's your answer:

Quote
High lottery pick Josh Jackson canceled today's workout with the Boston Celtics, source told me and @MarcJSpearsESPN.

https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/874464847303516161

What is this supposed to intimate? Why would he cancel a visit to the team with the number one pick other than A) Danny telling him he's straight up not going to pick him or B) Danny giving him a draft promise?

I'd much rather have A than B in this scenario (most likely meaning Fultz), but I don't see either of them as likely at all. And I wouldn't understand the logic of canceling with the top pick just because you have a promise from LA or Philly.


C. He has a promise from another team that he'd prefer to go to.

Ah, I guess I wasn't considering the "playing time" factor, too. Are people thinking it's LA or Philly? Between this and the leaks about Ball underwhelming in his LA visit, I find these "leaks" a bit too obvious to be factual and true, especially being right before the draft with how many lies are usually "leaked" like this.

In addition to actually being true, it very well could be either A) Magic downplaying Ball's workouts to try and persuade Boston not to take him (which I think is stupid since Fultz seems like a vastly superior prospect at this point), or B) the Colangelos trying to pump up Jackson to get LA to take him and have Ball fall to them.

I'm going to speculate and say it's the Lakers. Ball to the Lakers always felt a bit too perfect to me, and the situation was definitely reminiscent of Okafor two years ago.

I think he's certainly a better fit with their current squad than Ball. I like the fit of Jackson between Russell and Ingram, or vice versa if you see Ingram as the 2 and Jackson as the 3.

I'm not sure about the fit of Ball in Philly, though. I don't think Ball and Simmons are a good pairing, since I think they're actually pretty similar players at differing sizes and positions. And that only takes more touches away from Embiid, who should have the ball the majority of the time anyways.

Granted, I'm not sure that Philly would take Ball, either. They might have Fox higher on their list, especially with loud-mouth Lavar attached to Lonzo.

I love Lonzo's fit in Philly (well, not from a Celtics standpoint). Lonzo is seriously fantastic off-ball; Lonzo-Simmons-Embiid is going to be TOUGH to top, even with Markelle in Boston.

Nope i think he is a bad fit, and the sixers fan most certainly agree with that.

Actually, they don't:

http://www.libertyballers.com/2017/6/6/15745482/2017-liberty-ballers-community-big-board-no-2-markelle-fultz-top-choice-lonzo-ball-josh-jackson#poll-results

To be fair, apparently both Jackson and Monk were left off that polling list by mistake, which the LB staff admitted in their next article. I'd say that has a lot to do with it, because in my experience over at LB Ball hasn't been that highly regarded by most of the fans, as that article itself even admits. I think Jackson would've been the pick if he would've actually been included.

EDIT: They may have fixed it and re-ran it with Jackson in there after looking at some other links, but I do think the fanbase at LB is pretty split on Ball still.

I believe they re-ran it. Yeah, there's no consensus over there after Fultz, but that's what this year's draft is: Fultz, a big drop-off, then some combination of Ball, Jackson, Fox, Tatum, etc. I do think it's pretty clear, though, that Ball is the most popular after Fultz among Sixers fans.
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Re: Rumor: Josh Jackson has a top-3 promise
« Reply #70 on: June 13, 2017, 01:07:18 AM »

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Under the influence of alcohol or not, I have absolutely zero interest in anyone who threatens a woman, period, let alone by telling her that he was going to, “beat her ass,” not to mention his failure to leave his contact information after backing into another vehicle, iirc, and to top it all off, he has to attend anger management classes as well as, "refrain from alcohol and recreational drugs for 12 months and write an apology letter," per his diversion agreement stemming from the first "incident," so put me down for ABSOLUTELY NOT.  How many red flags do you need?

Do you know why Jackson wasn't charged with criminal threatening?

Because two of the victim's friends - including her roommate - gave statements, and neither reported any threats. The only person who did is the victim, who moments earlier had assaulted Jackson's friend.  Even the victim's own witnesses don't corroborate her story.

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Calvert said Jackson “was yelling for her to get out of the car and that he would beat her ass.” According to the Lawrence Journal-World, “That allegation is not made by two other witnesses that are included in the affidavit, although it isn't clear whether they were specifically asked about that part of the incident.”

http://kansas.247sports.com/Bolt/Released-affidavit-lends-clarity-to-Josh-Jackson-incident-51806711

That's some friend that Jackson's got there, btw (sarcasm), "Vick was found by a University of Kansas investigation in January 2016 to have more than likely hit Calvert several times in the arm and kicked her in the face in December 2015."

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/ku-basketball-news/article138906253.html

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article129703974.html

Does it at least bother you that Jackson, Vick, and Frank Mason III were listed as witnesses in the police report regarding the "alleged rape of a 16 year old at McCarthy Hall?" :o

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article128646254.html

Oh yeah, these guys are the kind of high character individuals that Ainge is looking for (sarcasm). ::)

There was a police investigation. There was proof of one crime: vandalism. There was no threat, there was no assault. Neutral witnesses never mentioned this.

Why the rush to convict somebody without actual credible evidence?

Why, then, has Jackson been ordered to attend anger management classes, write a letter of apology, and, "refrain from using alcohol or recreational drugs for a year," per his diversion agreement, if none of what you described actually happened?  Plus, we don't even know if the "neutral witnesses" were asked about the threat and assault specifically in regards to the affidavit, and I'm not rushing to convict the guy at all - his record speaks for itself. 

Sorry, I just can't sign off on Jackson, ethically, and I hope that Ainge feels the same way.

Re: Rumor: Josh Jackson has a top-3 promise
« Reply #71 on: June 13, 2017, 06:23:59 AM »

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Under the influence of alcohol or not, I have absolutely zero interest in anyone who threatens a woman, period, let alone by telling her that he was going to, “beat her ass,” not to mention his failure to leave his contact information after backing into another vehicle, iirc, and to top it all off, he has to attend anger management classes as well as, "refrain from alcohol and recreational drugs for 12 months and write an apology letter," per his diversion agreement stemming from the first "incident," so put me down for ABSOLUTELY NOT.  How many red flags do you need?

Do you know why Jackson wasn't charged with criminal threatening?

Because two of the victim's friends - including her roommate - gave statements, and neither reported any threats. The only person who did is the victim, who moments earlier had assaulted Jackson's friend.  Even the victim's own witnesses don't corroborate her story.

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Calvert said Jackson “was yelling for her to get out of the car and that he would beat her ass.” According to the Lawrence Journal-World, “That allegation is not made by two other witnesses that are included in the affidavit, although it isn't clear whether they were specifically asked about that part of the incident.”

http://kansas.247sports.com/Bolt/Released-affidavit-lends-clarity-to-Josh-Jackson-incident-51806711

That's some friend that Jackson's got there, btw (sarcasm), "Vick was found by a University of Kansas investigation in January 2016 to have more than likely hit Calvert several times in the arm and kicked her in the face in December 2015."

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/ku-basketball-news/article138906253.html

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article129703974.html

Does it at least bother you that Jackson, Vick, and Frank Mason III were listed as witnesses in the police report regarding the "alleged rape of a 16 year old at McCarthy Hall?" :o

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article128646254.html

Oh yeah, these guys are the kind of high character individuals that Ainge is looking for (sarcasm). ::)

There was a police investigation. There was proof of one crime: vandalism. There was no threat, there was no assault. Neutral witnesses never mentioned this.

Why the rush to convict somebody without actual credible evidence?

Why, then, has Jackson been ordered to attend anger management classes, write a letter of apology, and, "refrain from using alcohol or recreational drugs for a year," per his diversion agreement, if none of what you described actually happened?  Plus, we don't even know if the "neutral witnesses" were asked about the threat and assault specifically in regards to the affidavit, and I'm not rushing to convict the guy at all - his record speaks for itself. 

Sorry, I just can't sign off on Jackson, ethically, and I hope that Ainge feels the same way.

Is it fair to say that you don't know much about the legal process?

Counseling, restitution, no use or possession of illegal drugs or alcohol, etc. are all pretty standard conditions for a diversion / deferred disposition  / "filing".  Those aren't added because Jackson made a threat of violence. Rather, it's because he was drinking underage and damaged somebody's car.

It's also fair to say that you don't know much about police reports / affidavits filed in support of probable cause? The police were looking to press charges. The victim reported being threatened. The police almost definitely asked witnesses about that. Even if the LEOs didn't specifically inquire, the witness statements seem very detailed. Yet, both leave out perhaps the single most sensational allegation.

As for his "record", he's got a traffic ticket and misdemeanor vandalism. My goodness. Fellow thug Jaylen Brown was arrested for operating after suspension and running a stop sign. Danny would never draft somebody with such poor character!


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Re: Rumor: Josh Jackson has a top-3 promise
« Reply #72 on: June 13, 2017, 07:43:28 AM »

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Lakers still planning to workout fox and meet with fultz...yet gave a promise to jackson?

Re: Rumor: Josh Jackson has a top-3 promise
« Reply #73 on: June 13, 2017, 08:10:40 AM »

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Josh Jackson to the Lakers makes a lot of sense.  Reports that Ball went into his workout out of shape are concerning.  That kid has so much hype surrounding him and a father that is clouding his priorities.  Ball will be fine once he gets to a team and into their system.  I think he's a great fit in Philly.  If he falls to Phoenix it will allow them to move Bledsoe if they chose to do so.  Ball will not make it out of the top 4.  Too talented to do so, even with the baggage.

Fultz to the C's to me is set in stone and an easy choice.  I wouldn't put it past Danny to move a player and future picks for another player in this draft.  If they sign a max player they will need some cheap talent.  Just because a vet may sign with a team for the minimum doesn't mean they are better then developing young talent at the bottom of the bench.  With a vet you know what you are getting.  A young player can be molded into your system and developed.

Re: Rumor: Josh Jackson has a top-3 promise
« Reply #74 on: June 13, 2017, 09:04:10 AM »

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Lakers still planning to workout fox and meet with fultz...yet gave a promise to jackson?

Sure.  They don't have the number one pick. If Jackson is their guy and we take him first, they need to have scouted out the other options.  This could also be a bit of gamesmanship by the lakers. Jackson could be their number two guy behind fultz, but by promising Jackson he cancels his workout with us and perhaps have us have some wonder or doubt - or simply don't get to ever meet with him which we know Danny likes to do for down the road.