This trade helps both teams short and long term I feel. Yes, trading IT in the East might hurt us short term but long term will work in this trade.
Celtics Trade
Isaiah Thomas
Tyler Zeller
Jordan Mickey
Boston 2018 1st
Boston 2019 1st
Pacers Trade
Myles Turner
Monta Ellis
Celtics get a great young center in Turner. Yes, the Pacers don't want to give up Turner as a young star but they might be willing to part with him for another star to put next to George. In hope they can keep George but if he leaves they can sign Thomas and have money to bring on someone, plus have 2 first round picks. If I'm the Celtics I'm not giving up the Brooklyn pick next year cause had good big talent.
Celtics are able to draft Fultz this year. Sign Hayward to a max or close to it deal. Plus give extensions to both Bradley and Smart. You try to trade Monta Ellis if possible or keep him as a veteran bench scorer and trade Rozier for a young bench player.
Center - Turner
Power Forward - Horford
Small Forward - Hayward
Shooting Guard - Bradley
Point Guard - Smart
Center - Zizic
Power Forward - Yabusele
Small Forward - Crowder
Shooting Guard - Brown
Point Guard - Fultz
Point Guard - Terry Rozier
Shooting Guard - Monta Ellis
If we trade away Zeller and take back guaranteed salaries (Monta), we can no longer go after Hayward.
TP for the idea though! I would really like us to trade for Turner!
My idea for a Turner trade would be
IT + Memphis 2019 first + rights to Zizic for Turner
Not sure Indy has any interest in this, but I guess it's worth a try.
You would have the money because you're trading IT and Mickey which salary are equal to just not keeping Zeller. Yes you take on Ellis contact so you'd have to figure out how to structure the deal but still can sign a max.
No we wouldn't. Assuming we do the following
- trade Jackson, Rozier for future pick(s)/salary relief
- renounce Kelly, Zeller
- let Amir, Jerebko, Green, Young walk
- decline team option on Mickey
- stash Yabu in China/Europe/the D-League/whatever
...we would still be a little bit short of the 7-9 year vet max.
Trading away IT saves us $6,261,394.
Trading away Zeller saves us nothing cause we would have to release him anyway. Same thing goes for Mickey.
Monta is on a $11,227,000 contract for 2017-2018.
Turner will be on the books for $2,483,040.
Not to mention you have Yabu as our backup PF as well (picks have cap holds).
By the way we couldn't extend Bradley - Smart either. If we sign Hayward we won't have enough cap space for anything else, so contract extensions will be out of the question.
You can make it work but it would be real tight and not the best idea. So the trade I'd be waiting is to simply trade Thomas for Turner. We'd have to give up a couple draft picks for sure. But I'm thinking if we trade the 18 Brooklyn pick and the 19 Celtics first this could work. The Pacers get a star to put next to George in hope to keep him, we get the young big and actually use the last Brooklyn pick to get its a need. Then the ability to sign Hayward and be our number 1 option, resign both Smart, Bradley and KO.
Again, you cannot make it work. It's not even close.
Here is a look of what our payroll would look like after the trade :
Horford - $27,734,405
Bradley - $8,808,989
Crowder - $6,796,117
Brown - $4,956,480
Smart - $4,538,019
Rozier - $1,988,520
Turner - $2,483,040
Monta - $11,227,000
cap hold for Fultz (#1) : $7,026,240
cap hold for Yabusele (#16) : $2,247,480
cap hold for Zizic (#23) : $1,645,200
That's a total of $79,451,490 for 11 players.
Teams are assessed a $815,615 roster charge for each open spot below 12 players.
$79,451,490 + $815,615 = $80,267,105
The latest salary cap projection has the cap at $101,000,000.
$101,000,000 - $80,267,105 = $20,732,895 available in cap space
The max contract for 7-year vets starts at 30% of the cap.
101,000,000 x 30% = $30,300,000
20,732,895 - 30,300,000 = -9,567,105
That is $9,567,105 short of Hayward's max!!!!