Fultz is 2nd longest PG...EVER from lotto

[droopdog7]

I love the length, but I must admit, I am a little concerned about his lack of quickness and burst.

Same concern. 

Some parts of these highlights concern me

Not fighting through picks, inability to turn the corner/diffulty finishing near the basket

Fultz defense
https://youtu.be/ODqr6NeDpFg

Fultz penetration
https://youtu.be/uy4K5hbjW0c

Are statements about his offense true?  Does he have difficulty finishing near the basket?  Does he have difficulty turning the corner?  What do the numbers show?

[Tr1boy]

I love the length, but I must admit, I am a little concerned about his lack of quickness and burst.

Same concern. 

Some parts of these highlights concern me

Not fighting through picks, inability to turn the corner/diffulty finishing near the basket

Fultz defense
https://youtu.be/ODqr6NeDpFg

Fultz penetration
https://youtu.be/uy4K5hbjW0c

Are statements about his offense true?  Does he have difficulty finishing near the basket?  Does he have difficulty turning the corner?  What do the numbers show?

Some times (judge for yourself)

Especially against solid defenders...

[Ogaju]

His all-time best length ( standing reach and wingspan) is actually longer than many SF's who stand at 6'8''-6'10''.  Due to his length he will have the potential to defend the 1 -3 in  NBA(given he progresses defensively). The only player to have longer measurements at pg is Shaun Livingston, who stands at 6'8''.

All players drafted at PG in lottery since 2000:
Wingspan: 2nd all time behind Shuan Livingston
Standing Reach: 2nd all time behind Livingston

All players drafted in first round at PG since 2000:
Standing Reach: 3rd overall
Wingspan: 0.25'' away from 2nd overall. Ties for 4th overall.


To put this into better perspective....If Fultz ever gets a 38'' max vertical( which he could already posses), he would have the same defensive range as KAWHI LEANARD when he came into the league at 3200 square feet.....

Fultz (measurements could very well be longer now)
8'6'' Standing Reach
6'10'' Wingspan
***Standing Reach seems to always be left out/inconsequential when length is discussed. Standing Reach is just as important though. Among many things, it also factors in with: height of release point for jumper, makes it difficult for players to disturb your jumper, rebounding, contesting shots, blocking shots, picking off high passes, and etc.

Lillard: 6'7.75'' wingspan and 7'11.5'' standing reach
MCW: 6'7.25'' wingspan and 8'5'' standing reach
Jae Crowder: 6'9.25'' wingspan and 8'3.5'' standing reach
Chris Paul:6'4.25'' wingspan and 7'9'' standing reach
Mike Conley: 6'5.75'' wingspan and 7'10.5'' standing reach
D-Rose: 6'8'' wingspan and 8'2'' standing reach
Westbrook: 6'7.75'' wingspan and 8'4'' standing reach
George Hill: 6'9'' wingspan and 8'1'' standing reach
Steph Curry: 6'3.5'' wingspan and 8'1'' standing reach
Derozan: 6'9'' wingspan and 8'6'' standing reach
Kyrie: 6'3.5'' wingspan and 8'3'' standing reach
Kemba Walker: 6'3.5'' wingspan and 7'7'' standing reach
KCP: 6'8'' wingspan and 8'4'' standing reach
Beal: 6'8'' wingspan and 8'4'' standing reach
John Wall: 6'9.25'' wingspan and 8'5'' standing reach
CJ McCollum: 6'6.25'' wingspan and 8'0.25'' standing reach
Oladipo: 6'9.25'' wingspan and 8'4.5'' standing reach
Jimmy Butler: 6'8'' wingspan and 8'5'' standing reach
D. Wade: 6'10.75'' wingspan and 8'6'' standing reach

Defensive NBA potential
Is off the charts, but it is not guaranteed. He gave up a lot of drives when in isolation defense against other guards. Scouts believe he was carrying a tremendous load for the team, which demanded a lot of energy, but he also had a very fixable/coachable defensive fundamental:

-Location of arms while in defensive stance: He keeps his arms behind him which makes him off-balance and lass athletic. See for yourself in any of the videos from college. Whenever he was in isolation defense the placement of his arms put him at a huge disadvantage on the drive & contesting the shot. This is something that is extremely fixable. It also helps that we have great defenders, a defensive culture, and a great coach. There is no way CBS always Fultz to play defense with his arms in that position.....which IMO means Fultz will change if he ever wants to play in the NBA.
- Getting bumped by defender on drive: one more thing Fultz can do is get better core strength so he does not get bumped off while his defender is driving. Fultz has a history of making huge strides in short periods of time. Young players are naturally the most likely to make physical gains. Getting plugged into a PRO STRENGTH AND CONDITIONING PROGRAM and having zero classes/ academic responsibilities are 2 of the more significant factors, along with natural boosts in testosterone/etc. IMO Fultz will improve both core and overall strength by the start of the season...which is like 5 months away.

Here is a good breakdown of his game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHYCFBASl_4

love the breakdown, but I just went by the eyeball test and saw that Fultz is better than the field.

[Chris22]

I'm sold.
Plug him into the PG slot for the next 12 years.

Fixed. He can play 3 in the long run too

Please don't change my posts. I prefer Fultz at the point.

This team needs no PG. They need scorers and he's better off as SG, unless both IT and Smart are gone.

Smart is not a point guard and IT is gone.
No need to pay a tiny point guard max money when you have Fultz.

[CelticsElite]

Video that'll make you not want to trade fultz ever: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cY6x5KAxfLc&feature=youtu.be

[obnoxiousmime]

I second that the only remaining concern is his drive, work ethic, competitiveness, etc. I realize that some amazing players actually coast on their talent and still end up pretty great or have HOF careers even. Still, I would rather not our potential best player for the next 8 years to be too casual and indifferent to working hard. To be a championship team, your best player really needs to set the tone for everyone.

They probably have to take him anyway, I'm just mentioning it. I'd be a little disappointed if he turned out like an Iverson or Harden though. Puts up great numbers, but selfish and doesn't play hard on defense.

[Beat LA]

I second that the only remaining concern is his drive, work ethic, competitiveness, etc. I realize that some amazing players actually coast on their talent and still end up pretty great or have HOF careers even. Still, I would rather not our potential best player for the next 8 years to be too casual and indifferent to working hard. To be a championship team, your best player really needs to set the tone for everyone.

They probably have to take him anyway, I'm just mentioning it. I'd be a little disappointed if he turned out like an Iverson or Harden though. Puts up great numbers, but selfish and doesn't play hard on defense.

I don't think it's a work ethic problem, but I've seen various comments/reports that don't reflect positively on his motor, which is a YUGE red flag, imo.  I hate players like James Harden, but of course Ainge will take Fultz.  He's a combo guard, is he not? Oh well, at least this one can shoot...from the field , as long as his knee holds up, that is . Not good.

[Tr1boy]

I second that the only remaining concern is his drive, work ethic, competitiveness, etc. I realize that some amazing players actually coast on their talent and still end up pretty great or have HOF careers even. Still, I would rather not our potential best player for the next 8 years to be too casual and indifferent to working hard. To be a championship team, your best player really needs to set the tone for everyone.

They probably have to take him anyway, I'm just mentioning it. I'd be a little disappointed if he turned out like an Iverson or Harden though. Puts up great numbers, but selfish and doesn't play hard on defense.

I don't think it's a work ethic problem, but I've seen various comments/reports that don't reflect positively on his motor, which is a YUGE red flag, imo.  I hate players like James Harden, but of course Ainge will take Fultz.  He's a combo guard, is he not? Oh well, at least this one can shoot...from the field , as long as his knee holds up, that is . Not good.

If this is true...a little concerning

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

Nice summary for those of us too lazy to look it up.   

There's good reason he is consensus #1.

yet we have people here saying to trade the pick. silliness. unless we get AD.

[Tr1boy]

Doesnt Fultz have a pretty similar height to wingspan ratio to Smarts?

[jambr380]

Oops - I made the infamous wrong thread mistake. Sorry guys.

Still loving Fultz, though!

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

I'm sold.
Plug him into the PG slot for the next 12 years.

Fixed. He can play 3 in the long run too

Please don't change my posts. I prefer Fultz at the point.

This team needs no PG. They need scorers and he's better off as SG, unless both IT and Smart are gone.

Smart is not a point guard and IT is gone.
No need to pay a tiny point guard max money when you have Fultz.

agreed 100%

[action781]

Where does Lonzo Ball rank on the list?  I imagine he must have quite a long standing reach as well.

[Smokeeye123]

Where does Lonzo Ball rank on the list?  I imagine he must have quite a long standing reach as well.

Ball has a Standing reach of 8'4.5 and a wingspan of 6'7. Compared to Fultz's 8'6 and 6'10

Still very good.

[kozlodoev]

That's all nice, but Fultz is not a PG.