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Draft Markelle Fultz and Jordan Bell - offense + defense
« on: May 21, 2017, 09:54:54 AM »

Offline Tr1boy

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It would be like adding Irving and Tristant Thompson

PF Bell is for real on the defensive end. Offensive rebounding machine also.  Imo could give someone like Lebron problems. Has the attitude this team is lacking

Fultz a scoring machine + 6'10 wingspan

It would be satisfying if Danny ends up drafting these two players.  Help for another playoff run. Better equipped to battle the Cavs

Jordan Bell highlights

https://youtu.be/ewWLJtmH9iM
https://youtu.be/yWCq5ZQSDi0

Markelle Fultz
https://youtu.be/T2DHVAnrNlk


Re: Draft Markelle Fultz and Jordan Bell - offense + defense
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2017, 10:05:02 AM »

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It would be like adding Irving and Tristant Thompson

PF Bell is for real on the defensive end. Offensive rebounding machine also.  Imo could give someone like Lebron problems. Has the attitude this team is lacking

Fultz a scoring machine + 6'10 wingspan

It would be satisfying if Danny ends up drafting these two players.  Help for another playoff run. Better equipped to battle the Cavs

Jordan Bell highlights

https://youtu.be/ewWLJtmH9iM
https://youtu.be/yWCq5ZQSDi0

Markelle Fultz
https://youtu.be/T2DHVAnrNlk

I have loved the Bell kid since watching him get 8 blocks in the NCAA tourney.  He also seems to have a solid spiritual foundation as well!!

That being said, we would have to trade all of our second rounders and get into the first round to get him!!  There is virtually NO WAY he drops out of the first round after his testing at the combine!!!

Smitty77

Re: Draft Markelle Fultz and Jordan Bell - offense + defense
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2017, 10:11:43 AM »

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It would be like adding Irving and Tristant Thompson

PF Bell is for real on the defensive end. Offensive rebounding machine also.  Imo could give someone like Lebron problems. Has the attitude this team is lacking

Fultz a scoring machine + 6'10 wingspan

It would be satisfying if Danny ends up drafting these two players.  Help for another playoff run. Better equipped to battle the Cavs

Jordan Bell highlights

https://youtu.be/ewWLJtmH9iM
https://youtu.be/yWCq5ZQSDi0

Markelle Fultz
https://youtu.be/T2DHVAnrNlk


And how many playoff games did the Cavs win with Irving and Thompson before Lebron joined?

Re: Draft Markelle Fultz and Jordan Bell - offense + defense
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2017, 10:27:17 AM »

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It would be like adding Irving and Tristant Thompson

PF Bell is for real on the defensive end. Offensive rebounding machine also.  Imo could give someone like Lebron problems. Has the attitude this team is lacking

Fultz a scoring machine + 6'10 wingspan

It would be satisfying if Danny ends up drafting these two players.  Help for another playoff run. Better equipped to battle the Cavs

Jordan Bell highlights

https://youtu.be/ewWLJtmH9iM
https://youtu.be/yWCq5ZQSDi0

Markelle Fultz
https://youtu.be/T2DHVAnrNlk


And how many playoff games did the Cavs win with Irving and Thompson before Lebron joined?

well Irving and Thompson was enough to entice Lebron to leave the Heat

Don't forget Celtics also have Brown and potential top 5 2018 pick

Re: Draft Markelle Fultz and Jordan Bell - offense + defense
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2017, 10:29:20 AM »

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It would be like adding Irving and Tristant Thompson

PF Bell is for real on the defensive end. Offensive rebounding machine also.  Imo could give someone like Lebron problems. Has the attitude this team is lacking

Fultz a scoring machine + 6'10 wingspan

It would be satisfying if Danny ends up drafting these two players.  Help for another playoff run. Better equipped to battle the Cavs

Jordan Bell highlights

https://youtu.be/ewWLJtmH9iM
https://youtu.be/yWCq5ZQSDi0

Markelle Fultz
https://youtu.be/T2DHVAnrNlk


And how many playoff games did the Cavs win with Irving and Thompson before Lebron joined?

well Irving and Thompson was enough to entice Lebron to leave the Heat

Don't forget Celtics also have Brown and potential top 5 2018 pick


His hometown of Cleveland and making amends for leaving them was the main factor, not Irving and Thompson. That team never made the playoffs without Lebron. Our team has gotten to the ECF.

Re: Draft Markelle Fultz and Jordan Bell - offense + defense
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2017, 10:30:55 AM »

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It would be like adding Irving and Tristant Thompson

PF Bell is for real on the defensive end. Offensive rebounding machine also.  Imo could give someone like Lebron problems. Has the attitude this team is lacking

Fultz a scoring machine + 6'10 wingspan

It would be satisfying if Danny ends up drafting these two players.  Help for another playoff run. Better equipped to battle the Cavs

Jordan Bell highlights

https://youtu.be/ewWLJtmH9iM
https://youtu.be/yWCq5ZQSDi0

Markelle Fultz
https://youtu.be/T2DHVAnrNlk

I have loved the Bell kid since watching him get 8 blocks in the NCAA tourney.  He also seems to have a solid spiritual foundation as well!!

That being said, we would have to trade all of our second rounders and get into the first round to get him!!  There is virtually NO WAY he drops out of the first round after his testing at the combine!!!

Smitty77

absolutely. He controlled that game ... just by being a guard dog on the defensive end.  He was a pain in the butt grabbing offensive rebounds

Not only quite the athlete (even developing 3 pt shooting) but instantaneously would become the Celtics enforcer

Re: Draft Markelle Fultz and Jordan Bell - offense + defense
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2017, 10:33:52 AM »

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Would love to end up with those two players.

We would have to trade up for Bell, but we have enough seconds to get the job done I think.

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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2017, 10:42:38 AM »

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I knew this was a Triboy thread without having to click on it. Nobody loves an undersized PF with a limited offensive game more than him.

Triboy, is Bell better than Mickey?
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Re: Draft Markelle Fultz and Jordan Bell - offense + defense
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2017, 10:45:06 AM »

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I knew this was a Triboy thread without having to click on it. Nobody loves an undersized with a limited offensive game more than him.

Triboy, is Bell better than Mickey?

he is much better then your no show Cliff Alexandre


Re: Draft Markelle Fultz and Jordan Bell - offense + defense
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2017, 10:49:38 AM »

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I knew this was a Triboy thread without having to click on it. Nobody loves an undersized with a limited offensive game more than him.

Triboy, is Bell better than Mickey?

he is much better then your no show Cliff Alexandre

Okay, but is he replacing Mickey in your scenario? Since, you know, Mickey, who you were foaming at the mouth about for a few years, is still on our roster as unfortunate as that might be.

Re: Draft Markelle Fultz and Jordan Bell - offense + defense
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2017, 10:58:23 AM »

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Considering how poorly PF's that have a limited perimeter game have fit in Stevens' system (see Lee, Mickey, B. Wright, etc.) why does anyone believe Bell would fare any differently?

DX on Bell

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Skill wise, Bell's offensive production as a scorer is very much a work in progress.  While he has shown improvement with his back to the basket, he lacks any real advanced moves and relies on short jump hooks around the rim.  His touch around the basket comes and goes, and he can be turnover prone creating on the low block when faced with pressure.  He shot just 10 for 31 on jumpers this year, with the majority of those makes coming inside of 17 feet.  He struggles with consistency on his perimeter shot, and often passes up open looks without creating any real high percentage opportunities off the bounce.  His release is on the slow side and he gets an inconsistent trajectory on his shot outside of mid-range areas.  His ability to improve on his jump shot will be key to opening up the rest of his offensive game, and allowing for better team spacing as defenses don't currently have to worry about him stretching the floor.

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I knew this was a Triboy thread without having to click on it. Nobody loves an undersized PF with a limited offensive game more than him.

Triboy, is Bell better than Mickey?
hey. triboy spotted mickey early one and the celtics agreed. so a good call by triboy on that one. that mickey did not work out is not the fault of triboy, anymore than it is the fault of the celtics.

let's give triboy a break on this.
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Re: Draft Markelle Fultz and Jordan Bell - offense + defense
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2017, 11:49:42 AM »

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Considering how poorly PF's that have a limited perimeter game have fit in Stevens' system (see Lee, Mickey, B. Wright, etc.) why does anyone believe Bell would fare any differently?

DX on Bell

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Skill wise, Bell's offensive production as a scorer is very much a work in progress.  While he has shown improvement with his back to the basket, he lacks any real advanced moves and relies on short jump hooks around the rim.  His touch around the basket comes and goes, and he can be turnover prone creating on the low block when faced with pressure.  He shot just 10 for 31 on jumpers this year, with the majority of those makes coming inside of 17 feet.  He struggles with consistency on his perimeter shot, and often passes up open looks without creating any real high percentage opportunities off the bounce.  His release is on the slow side and he gets an inconsistent trajectory on his shot outside of mid-range areas.  His ability to improve on his jump shot will be key to opening up the rest of his offensive game, and allowing for better team spacing as defenses don't currently have to worry about him stretching the floor.

because Bell is a more versatile defender than those players. 

Bells toughness + explosiveness will be a welcome addition to the team.   

Yes he doesn't bring much to the table on the offensive end.  But he is not a clutz.  He has decent passing skills and able to find the open shooter.   Straight line drives are not easy to stop due to his quickness/explosiveness. Able to finish through contract. Drop offs usually turn into easy slams/buckets.    FT percentage has improved to 70 percent

Celtics have too many soft front court players like KO and in some ways Horford.   Yes CBS likes these stretch bigs ...but this Cavs series should make him realize (Bell or whoever else) you need a frontcourt player like Bell to be able to battle likes of Thompson and make Lebron/Irving think twice before driving in
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Re: Draft Markelle Fultz and Jordan Bell - offense + defense
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2017, 11:54:58 AM »

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Undersized big with zero offensive game doesn't sound like something the C's would go after. This guy seems like a good D league development guy or maybe a few years overseas to figure out his game.

Re: Draft Markelle Fultz and Jordan Bell - offense + defense
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I knew this was a Triboy thread without having to click on it. Nobody loves an undersized PF with a limited offensive game more than him.

Triboy, is Bell better than Mickey?


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