Trade #1 for Porzingis

[max215]

I don't have the slightest reservation about MF's height, as far as I'm concerned, he has good size and is about the closest thing to a flawless prospect as we could hope for.

Flawless than Porzingis? Does Porzingis have any major flaws?

Um... can't rebound all that well, can be muscled around, is somewhat fragile, tends to wear down over the course of a full 82 game season... there is plenty to see if you'd look.

Can't create offense for himself, isn't a particularly efficient scorer nor near the shooter he's made out to be, doesn't project to be an effective defender at either big spot. His flaws are numerous to say the least.

[CsBanner18]

No. We're drafting Markelle Fultz. Porzingis' rookie contract is almost up, so he'll need to be PAID soon. Fultz has star potential and we'll have him for 4 years on a rookie deal. Which stills allows us to pay Hayward. We can use the Room exception to sign a veteran big man. And we'll add Zizic. Hopefully we can create enough cap space to sign Yabusele.

[Darío SpanishFan]

I don't have the slightest reservation about MF's height, as far as I'm concerned, he has good size and is about the closest thing to a flawless prospect as we could hope for.

Flawless than Porzingis? Does Porzingis have any major flaws?

Um... can't rebound all that well, can be muscled around, is somewhat fragile, tends to wear down over the course of a full 82 game season... there is plenty to see if you'd look.

Can't create offense for himself, isn't a particularly efficient scorer nor near the shooter he's made out to be, doesn't project to be an effective defender at either big spot. His flaws are numerous to say the least.

I don't think you've seen Porzingis play regularly 

[kozlodoev]

Dirk is 7'0 and is still killing it.
Kevin Durant is 7'0 and is an MVP candidate for the next 5 years.

Dirk has been just ok for 3-4 years now and Durant is 6'9. Way to rewrite the facts.

[max215]

Dirk is 7'0 and is still killing it.
Kevin Durant is 7'0 and is an MVP candidate for the next 5 years.

Dirk has been just ok for 3-4 years now and Durant is 6'9. Way to rewrite the facts.

Durant is listed at 6'9. It's widely accepted that he's grown.

[max215]

I don't have the slightest reservation about MF's height, as far as I'm concerned, he has good size and is about the closest thing to a flawless prospect as we could hope for.

Flawless than Porzingis? Does Porzingis have any major flaws?

Um... can't rebound all that well, can be muscled around, is somewhat fragile, tends to wear down over the course of a full 82 game season... there is plenty to see if you'd look.

Can't create offense for himself, isn't a particularly efficient scorer nor near the shooter he's made out to be, doesn't project to be an effective defender at either big spot. His flaws are numerous to say the least.

I don't think you've seen Porzingis play regularly 

I actually have, which is why I don't think he's flawless. He's a very, very good prospect. He's not as good as Markelle.

[kozlodoev]

Dirk is 7'0 and is still killing it.
Kevin Durant is 7'0 and is an MVP candidate for the next 5 years.

Dirk has been just ok for 3-4 years now and Durant is 6'9. Way to rewrite the facts.

Durant is listed at 6'9. It's widely accepted that he's grown.

It's not widely accepted that he's seven feet tall.

[CelticsFan166]

Dirk is 7'0 and is still killing it.
Kevin Durant is 7'0 and is an MVP candidate for the next 5 years.

Dirk has been just ok for 3-4 years now and Durant is 6'9. Way to rewrite the facts.

Durant is listed at 6'9. It's widely accepted that he's grown.

It's not widely accepted that he's seven feet tall.

No I've heard this too. Look at pictures of him next to Demarcus Cousins. Durant is a legit 7'.

[Dannys Chipotle Guy]

Dirk is 7'0 and is still killing it.
Kevin Durant is 7'0 and is an MVP candidate for the next 5 years.

Dirk has been just ok for 3-4 years now and Durant is 6'9. Way to rewrite the facts.

Durant is listed at 6'9. It's widely accepted that he's grown.

It's not widely accepted that he's seven feet tall.

KD is 6'9" without shoes and has probably grown since then. Most guys KD's size would be listed at 6'11" or 7'

[Dannys Chipotle Guy]

I don't have the slightest reservation about MF's height, as far as I'm concerned, he has good size and is about the closest thing to a flawless prospect as we could hope for.

Flawless than Porzingis? Does Porzingis have any major flaws?

Um... can't rebound all that well, can be muscled around, is somewhat fragile, tends to wear down over the course of a full 82 game season... there is plenty to see if you'd look.

Can't create offense for himself, isn't a particularly efficient scorer nor near the shooter he's made out to be, doesn't project to be an effective defender at either big spot. His flaws are numerous to say the least.

I don't think you've seen Porzingis play regularly 

I actually have, which is why I don't think he's flawless. He's a very, very good prospect. He's not as good as Markelle.

Havent seen enough of the Zinger to make a really good evaluation, but based on what I have seen, I think hes a terrific prospect. Ive seen nothing from him to suggest hes a superstar. He doesnt seem to really be able to create his own offense, hes shockingly bad on defense and he is also remarkably bad on the boards.

Plus, I am factoring in the New York hype machine and just assuming he is at least a little bit overrated.

[max215]

I don't have the slightest reservation about MF's height, as far as I'm concerned, he has good size and is about the closest thing to a flawless prospect as we could hope for.

Flawless than Porzingis? Does Porzingis have any major flaws?

Um... can't rebound all that well, can be muscled around, is somewhat fragile, tends to wear down over the course of a full 82 game season... there is plenty to see if you'd look.

Can't create offense for himself, isn't a particularly efficient scorer nor near the shooter he's made out to be, doesn't project to be an effective defender at either big spot. His flaws are numerous to say the least.

I don't think you've seen Porzingis play regularly 

I actually have, which is why I don't think he's flawless. He's a very, very good prospect. He's not as good as Markelle.

Havent seen enough of the Zinger to make a really good evaluation, but based on what I have seen, I think hes a terrific prospect. Ive seen nothing from him to suggest hes a superstar. He doesnt seem to really be able to create his own offense, hes shockingly bad on defense and he is also remarkably bad on the boards.

Plus, I am factoring in the New York hype machine and just assuming he is at least a little bit overrated.

I believe you have a pretty good understanding of his game. Even if you haven't watched him "enough," you've probably seen a lot more of him than those who think he's a franchise-shaping superstar.

[kozlodoev]

No I've heard this too. Look at pictures of him next to Demarcus Cousins. Durant is a legit 7'.

Cousins is not even 6'11 in shoes...

edit: Either way, this argument is largely semantic. I'll grant you that Durant is likely closer to 6'11 than to 6'9, but his inclusion in this example is odd either way.

Tall guys have durability issues not because they're tall, but because they're generally heavier and jumping up and down for a living when you're ~300 lbs. can do a number on your lower body and your ankles and knees in specific.

For Durant, this isn't really an issue for obvious reasons. Although for really tall guys being rail-thin isn't too good either -- you're more likely to get injured when there isn't enough muscle to support the joints.

[footey]

I don't have the slightest reservation about MF's height, as far as I'm concerned, he has good size and is about the closest thing to a flawless prospect as we could hope for.

Flawless than Porzingis? Does Porzingis have any major flaws?

Um... can't rebound all that well, can be muscled around, is somewhat fragile, tends to wear down over the course of a full 82 game season... there is plenty to see if you'd look.

Can't create offense for himself, isn't a particularly efficient scorer nor near the shooter he's made out to be, doesn't project to be an effective defender at either big spot. His flaws are numerous to say the least.

I don't think you've seen Porzingis play regularly 

I actually have, which is why I don't think he's flawless. He's a very, very good prospect. He's not as good as Markelle.

Apples and oranges really. Porzingis fills greater current need.

[Quetzalcoatl]

I'm on the keep Fultz train all the way, but if there were any way we could get Porzingis without giving up Fultz I would jump on it.

It seems like it is getting more likely, too: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/meeting-porzingis-brother-phil-accomplishes-article-1.3181876

[coffee425]

There's really only two realistic trades for Porzingis.

If NYK wants to build long-term: This year's and Jaylen Brown, Jae Crowder for KP.


If NYK wants to compete next year: IT4, Jae Crowder, next year's brooklyn pick for KP