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Re: James Comey fired
« Reply #150 on: September 03, 2017, 10:38:28 PM »

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Ask yourself, if this same situation happened under Trump and Sessions, how would you feel?

Some of the witnesses yet to be interviewed had been given prosecutorial immunity. The Feds don't give that away for no reason.

My feeling based on the facts of this specific case (not a hypothetical one) is that Comey was trying to complete the investigation expeditiously because he understood the importance of it.  He started to draft his final recommendation at a time when most of the evidence was in but getting a head start would allow him to get it done quicker.  He did not make any public statement until all the evidence was in (except of course the new evidence that came in causing him to reopen the case).

You seem to be grasping at straw men.  First is was "before most of the key witnesses were interviewed", which was untrue, now it is something about granting immunity.  There is nothing here.

The witnesses who were granted immunity *are* key witnesses.

But hey, if Mueller drafts a memo to his staff clearing Trump months before the investigation is complete, without hearing from key witnesses, I'm sure none of the Dems on here will object.  Especially if it turns out that there were unethical meetings between Mueller's boss and Trump's family members.
Being granted immunity doesn't make someone a key witness.  So who specifically were these key witnesses that the FBI hadn't interviewed for the 1st 10 months of the investigation?  What roles did they play that would make them key witnesses? 

Re: James Comey fired
« Reply #151 on: September 03, 2017, 10:53:30 PM »

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Ask yourself, if this same situation happened under Trump and Sessions, how would you feel?

Some of the witnesses yet to be interviewed had been given prosecutorial immunity. The Feds don't give that away for no reason.

My feeling based on the facts of this specific case (not a hypothetical one) is that Comey was trying to complete the investigation expeditiously because he understood the importance of it.  He started to draft his final recommendation at a time when most of the evidence was in but getting a head start would allow him to get it done quicker.  He did not make any public statement until all the evidence was in (except of course the new evidence that came in causing him to reopen the case).

You seem to be grasping at straw men.  First is was "before most of the key witnesses were interviewed", which was untrue, now it is something about granting immunity.  There is nothing here.

The witnesses who were granted immunity *are* key witnesses.

But hey, if Mueller drafts a memo to his staff clearing Trump months before the investigation is complete, without hearing from key witnesses, I'm sure none of the Dems on here will object.  Especially if it turns out that there were unethical meetings between Mueller's boss and Trump's family members.
Being granted immunity doesn't make someone a key witness.  So who specifically were these key witnesses that the FBI hadn't interviewed for the 1st 10 months of the investigation?  What roles did they play that would make them key witnesses?

Cheryl Mills, for starters.  Clinton herself was obviously a key witness.  Comey testified before Congress that he hadn't made his mind up until after the Clinton interview. This contradicts that.

And yes, immunized witnesses are almost by definition key witnesses, because there's at least some probability that they were involved in criminal activity. That's why they're offered immunity in the first place, as a bar to Fifth Amendment protection against self incrimination for criminal activity.

Why are Democrats so reticent to criticize Comey? Between this, his admission that he leaked stories to the press, his vague reopening f the Clinton investigation, etc., it seems like his reputation as a straight shooter was overblown. He *should* have been fired, although Trump has ulterior motives.


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