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Quote from: wdleehi on May 09, 2017, 10:32:32 AMQuote from: JBcat on May 09, 2017, 10:24:58 AMOne idea I brought up in another thread is Derrick Favors. His numbers were down this year, and only played 50 games so maybe we can get cheaper than we normally would, and he only 25.If we steal Hayward from the Jazz they will be desperate for wing help. Maybe one of Crowder/Bradley and one of Smart/Rozier for Favors. You can even make the argument that's an overpay because of Favors down year.That's close to my thought. Crowder and Smart for Favors and a future pick. Yep, and that's a typical Ainge trade possibly buying low, and extracting a future pick.
Quote from: JBcat on May 09, 2017, 10:24:58 AMOne idea I brought up in another thread is Derrick Favors. His numbers were down this year, and only played 50 games so maybe we can get cheaper than we normally would, and he only 25.If we steal Hayward from the Jazz they will be desperate for wing help. Maybe one of Crowder/Bradley and one of Smart/Rozier for Favors. You can even make the argument that's an overpay because of Favors down year.That's close to my thought. Crowder and Smart for Favors and a future pick.
One idea I brought up in another thread is Derrick Favors. His numbers were down this year, and only played 50 games so maybe we can get cheaper than we normally would, and he only 25.If we steal Hayward from the Jazz they will be desperate for wing help. Maybe one of Crowder/Bradley and one of Smart/Rozier for Favors. You can even make the argument that's an overpay because of Favors down year.
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Presuming we come away from the lottery with the #1 pick which we will use on Fultz, in order to give Hayward the max we are going to have to clear an additional ~$3mil in cap space on top of renouncing all of our free agents (according to a CB article from a few weeks ago).Swapping Jackson, Bradley and Crowder for Nik Vucevic and the 25th pick should do the trick. Then use the pick on Caleb Swanigan. I know a lot of people don't like Vuc, but you aren't bringing him in to be a star. He's an elite rebounder, and Swanigan has the potential to be a high level rebounder as well. On top of that, both are more than competent offensively. If you look at the end roster, we have addressed our 2 main weaknesses - scoring help and rebounding. IT / RozierFultz / Smart (or flip flop Smart to be the starter)Hayward / BrownHorford / Swanigan Vucevic / ZizicYou can do whatever you want with the wing rotation (start Hayward & Brown, if you prefer). Either way, we have balance across the lineup. Much better scoring options and significantly better rebounders. You can complain about footspeed in the post when it comes to switching ball screens, but are Vuc and Swanigan measurably slower than the guys they are replacing (Johnson & Zeller)? And if you think so (I don't), is the small difference in footspeed worth the rebounding and offensive efficiency we would gain? You can still go small ball when desired, with Hayward at the 4.For deep bench, you have your choice of Yabusele, Nader, 3 second rounders this year (less likely to have that many rookies on the roster) and vet minimum guys. You could possibly even bring back a guy like JJ, Amir or Zeller if they would agree to deals that would work within the cap. That would save you from relying on rookies for significant post minutes.In no way am I arguing that this creates a team with no weaknesses, but I think it's much more equipped for playoff success than this year's roster, plus it provides balance across positions and across skill sets.
Quote from: JBcat on May 09, 2017, 10:42:45 AMQuote from: wdleehi on May 09, 2017, 10:32:32 AMQuote from: JBcat on May 09, 2017, 10:24:58 AMOne idea I brought up in another thread is Derrick Favors. His numbers were down this year, and only played 50 games so maybe we can get cheaper than we normally would, and he only 25.If we steal Hayward from the Jazz they will be desperate for wing help. Maybe one of Crowder/Bradley and one of Smart/Rozier for Favors. You can even make the argument that's an overpay because of Favors down year.That's close to my thought. Crowder and Smart for Favors and a future pick. Yep, and that's a typical Ainge trade possibly buying low, and extracting a future pick.Crowder and Smart doesnt seem like buying low.
Get Nerlens Noel for around 10-12Mill... fill out the rest of the roster with D-League players.. do you really need more than this?IT,Smart,Bradley,Crowder,Hayward,Zizic,Horford,Noel,1st round pick,maybe Rozier
Quote from: Ilikesports17 on May 09, 2017, 10:48:31 AMQuote from: JBcat on May 09, 2017, 10:42:45 AMQuote from: wdleehi on May 09, 2017, 10:32:32 AMQuote from: JBcat on May 09, 2017, 10:24:58 AMOne idea I brought up in another thread is Derrick Favors. His numbers were down this year, and only played 50 games so maybe we can get cheaper than we normally would, and he only 25.If we steal Hayward from the Jazz they will be desperate for wing help. Maybe one of Crowder/Bradley and one of Smart/Rozier for Favors. You can even make the argument that's an overpay because of Favors down year.That's close to my thought. Crowder and Smart for Favors and a future pick. Yep, and that's a typical Ainge trade possibly buying low, and extracting a future pick.Crowder and Smart doesnt seem like buying low.I meant buying low on Favors with his down year.On the flip side you could say selling high in Crowder and his great contract, and Smart if he doesn't improve much.
Quote from: JBcat on May 09, 2017, 10:53:34 AMQuote from: Ilikesports17 on May 09, 2017, 10:48:31 AMQuote from: JBcat on May 09, 2017, 10:42:45 AMQuote from: wdleehi on May 09, 2017, 10:32:32 AMQuote from: JBcat on May 09, 2017, 10:24:58 AMOne idea I brought up in another thread is Derrick Favors. His numbers were down this year, and only played 50 games so maybe we can get cheaper than we normally would, and he only 25.If we steal Hayward from the Jazz they will be desperate for wing help. Maybe one of Crowder/Bradley and one of Smart/Rozier for Favors. You can even make the argument that's an overpay because of Favors down year.That's close to my thought. Crowder and Smart for Favors and a future pick. Yep, and that's a typical Ainge trade possibly buying low, and extracting a future pick.Crowder and Smart doesnt seem like buying low.I meant buying low on Favors with his down year.On the flip side you could say selling high in Crowder and his great contract, and Smart if he doesn't improve much.or you could call it a panic sell after a bad week of playoff games, because 3 weeks ago Crowder + Smart was a huge overpay. Now its "buying low".
Quote from: Ilikesports17 on May 09, 2017, 10:59:13 AMQuote from: JBcat on May 09, 2017, 10:53:34 AMQuote from: Ilikesports17 on May 09, 2017, 10:48:31 AMQuote from: JBcat on May 09, 2017, 10:42:45 AMQuote from: wdleehi on May 09, 2017, 10:32:32 AMQuote from: JBcat on May 09, 2017, 10:24:58 AMOne idea I brought up in another thread is Derrick Favors. His numbers were down this year, and only played 50 games so maybe we can get cheaper than we normally would, and he only 25.If we steal Hayward from the Jazz they will be desperate for wing help. Maybe one of Crowder/Bradley and one of Smart/Rozier for Favors. You can even make the argument that's an overpay because of Favors down year.That's close to my thought. Crowder and Smart for Favors and a future pick. Yep, and that's a typical Ainge trade possibly buying low, and extracting a future pick.Crowder and Smart doesnt seem like buying low.I meant buying low on Favors with his down year.On the flip side you could say selling high in Crowder and his great contract, and Smart if he doesn't improve much.or you could call it a panic sell after a bad week of playoff games, because 3 weeks ago Crowder + Smart was a huge overpay. Now its "buying low".Is it if it includes both Favors and a future pick? Especially of this is the follow up to say signing Hayward (taking a starting spot from Crowder and expecting Brown's minutes to increase) and drafting another G (likely a PG) taking time from Smart with Rozier being able to absorb more minutes as well.