Celtics (2-1) at Wizards (1-2) Round 2 Game 4 5/7/17

[chambers]

We need more offensive fire power.
We shot well from 3pt% but just not enough scoring options once Isaiah went quiet.
Olynyk and Rozier off our bench were the 2nd and 3rd highest scorers.

[droopdog7]

People seriously think this is about effort?  Seriously?  And brown is in during garbage time.  His play right now is less than meaningless.

You don't think the 3rd 1/4 massacre was at least partly due to effort?
We were passive beyond belief, we were practically bending over for the Wiz.

I absolutely don't think it's about effort.  What kind of sense does that make anyway?  You prefer to think that our guys choose not to try hard when the obvious answer is that we're at a serious talent disadvantage.  They have had huge runs in every game.  That's not an accident and it's not because the team isn't trying.

I went to a game this morning where my kids team beat the other one by 50 points.  They were trying as hard as they could but were outmanned.

Look effort isn't just about running as fast as you can down the court.  It is a mental approach as well.  The mentality to say we are going to stop this 15 point run right now while we are still in the game.  Part of that is effort.  The mental weakness allows the poor effort to continue.  We just don't have guys who are mentally tough.

We obviously have talented players on our team, maybe not good enough to win series with the cavs, but good enough to respond better than they did today.

Let me explain something, and I'll use my kids team as an analogy.  When they play they cons usually tell before the game starts whether the other team is better, worse, our about the same.  When a team is better, everything falls into plays and they look great.  When they aren't, things tend to fall apart. 

All that stuff about heart is garbage because talent wins out.

Lol I don't know how someone can watch this particular team struggle with "showing up" to certain games all season long and come away with such a non-sensical opinion.

This team was only as good as it was the last couple of years because of our heart. We simply don't have it this year due to an entitled attitude.

Yep, both the team and the coach feel entitled.

Clearly the fans will entitled...and are clueless as usual.

This is quite hilarious coming from the guy comparing the NBA to a pee-wee team...

Are you suggesting that nba players are not human?  Or that they don't have better players?  And that our players don't care?  When did we stop caring because we did beat Chicago?  Did Chicago not care?

As for a pee wee team, obviously you don't understand that either.  Been watching ultra competitive "pee wee" games for six years.  Even at the youngest levels, these kids have heart and go all out.  You'd be amazed frankly.  There is a lot of similarities between those games and the nba.  You just have no idea.

lol I am glad you enjoy coaching the young kids, but I will have whatever you are smoking.  Pee wee league has literally no similarities to the NBA.  Wow

For your information, my sons not a pee wee team.  He's on a gold level AAU team that has multiple (future) college players on it.  The same AAU that bred all the players in the nba now.  Will my kid and anyone on his team make it to the nba?  Odds are against it but like I said, you have no clue about being an actual competitive athlete.  They are all human.  They try hard but when you're coming up against someone that's better than you, sometimes things fall apart.

[mr. dee]

Talent breeds heart, effort, toughness, makes great coaches and whatever else you people want to say.

Yeah, because guys like Darko, Beasley, Mayo, Dwill are world beaters

[tenn_smoothie]

How does a professional basketball team allow a 26-0 run ??

So, Gerald Green, by himself, gets the Chicago series momentum turned back in Boston's favor and now he is MIA ? I am not suggesting he needs to always start, but at least the guy brings some offense when Thomas is not scoring. Maybe he helps prevent a 26-0 run.
Olynyk is USELESS - play Jalen Brown over him anyday.

No rhyme or reason to these rotations - it's like Stevens is throwing darts and hoping one hits.

[blink]

People seriously think this is about effort?  Seriously?  And brown is in during garbage time.  His play right now is less than meaningless.

You don't think the 3rd 1/4 massacre was at least partly due to effort?
We were passive beyond belief, we were practically bending over for the Wiz.

I absolutely don't think it's about effort.  What kind of sense does that make anyway?  You prefer to think that our guys choose not to try hard when the obvious answer is that we're at a serious talent disadvantage.  They have had huge runs in every game.  That's not an accident and it's not because the team isn't trying.

I went to a game this morning where my kids team beat the other one by 50 points.  They were trying as hard as they could but were outmanned.

Look effort isn't just about running as fast as you can down the court.  It is a mental approach as well.  The mentality to say we are going to stop this 15 point run right now while we are still in the game.  Part of that is effort.  The mental weakness allows the poor effort to continue.  We just don't have guys who are mentally tough.

We obviously have talented players on our team, maybe not good enough to win series with the cavs, but good enough to respond better than they did today.

Let me explain something, and I'll use my kids team as an analogy.  When they play they cons usually tell before the game starts whether the other team is better, worse, our about the same.  When a team is better, everything falls into plays and they look great.  When they aren't, things tend to fall apart. 

All that stuff about heart is garbage because talent wins out.

Lol I don't know how someone can watch this particular team struggle with "showing up" to certain games all season long and come away with such a non-sensical opinion.

This team was only as good as it was the last couple of years because of our heart. We simply don't have it this year due to an entitled attitude.

Yep, both the team and the coach feel entitled.

Clearly the fans will entitled...and are clueless as usual.

This is quite hilarious coming from the guy comparing the NBA to a pee-wee team...

Are you suggesting that nba players are not human?  Or that they don't have better players?  And that our players don't care?  When did we stop caring because we did beat Chicago?  Did Chicago not care?

As for a pee wee team, obviously you don't understand that either.  Been watching ultra competitive "pee wee" games for six years.  Even at the youngest levels, these kids have heart and go all out.  You'd be amazed frankly.  There is a lot of similarities between those games and the nba.  You just have no idea.

lol I am glad you enjoy coaching the young kids, but I will have whatever you are smoking.  Pee wee league has literally no similarities to the NBA.  Wow

For your information, my sons not a pee wee team.  He's on a gold level AAU team that has multiple (future) college players on it.  The same AAU that bred all the players in the nba now.  Will my kid and anyone on his team make it to the nba?  Odds are against it but like I said, you have no clue about being an actual competitive athlete.  They are all human.  They try hard but when you're coming up against someone that's better than you, sometimes things fall apart.

Dude just can the 'you have no clue about being an actual competitive athlete' crap.  You have no idea my background or anything about me.  Thanks

[JOMVP]

How does a professional basketball team allow a 26-0 run ??

So, Gerald Green, by himself, gets the Chicago series momentum turned back in Boston's favor and now he is MIA ? I am not suggesting he needs to always start, but at least the guy brings some offense when Thomas is not scoring. Maybe he helps prevent a 26-0 run.
Olynyk is USELESS - play Jalen Brown over him anyday.

No rhyme or reason to these rotations - it's like Stevens is throwing darts and hoping one hits.

Kelly Olynyk was pretty good in game 1 and 2, but he is up and down just like he was all year - its just who he is. You cant ignore him in case he decides to assert himself into the game, but Brad needs a shorter leash when its clear he isnt.

I do think we need less Crowder. He just isnt helping, and his defense is overrated.

[Eja117]

People seriously think this is about effort?  Seriously?  And brown is in during garbage time.  His play right now is less than meaningless.

You don't think the 3rd 1/4 massacre was at least partly due to effort?
We were passive beyond belief, we were practically bending over for the Wiz.

I absolutely don't think it's about effort.  What kind of sense does that make anyway?  You prefer to think that our guys choose not to try hard when the obvious answer is that we're at a serious talent disadvantage.  They have had huge runs in every game.  That's not an accident and it's not because the team isn't trying.

I went to a game this morning where my kids team beat the other one by 50 points.  They were trying as hard as they could but were outmanned.

Look effort isn't just about running as fast as you can down the court.  It is a mental approach as well.  The mentality to say we are going to stop this 15 point run right now while we are still in the game.  Part of that is effort.  The mental weakness allows the poor effort to continue.  We just don't have guys who are mentally tough.

We obviously have talented players on our team, maybe not good enough to win series with the cavs, but good enough to respond better than they did today.

Let me explain something, and I'll use my kids team as an analogy.  When they play they cons usually tell before the game starts whether the other team is better, worse, our about the same.  When a team is better, everything falls into plays and they look great.  When they aren't, things tend to fall apart. 

All that stuff about heart is garbage because talent wins out.

Lol I don't know how someone can watch this particular team struggle with "showing up" to certain games all season long and come away with such a non-sensical opinion.

This team was only as good as it was the last couple of years because of our heart. We simply don't have it this year due to an entitled attitude.

Yep, both the team and the coach feel entitled.

Clearly the fans will entitled...and are clueless as usual.

This is quite hilarious coming from the guy comparing the NBA to a pee-wee team...

Are you suggesting that nba players are not human?  Or that they don't have better players?  And that our players don't care?  When did we stop caring because we did beat Chicago?  Did Chicago not care?

As for a pee wee team, obviously you don't understand that either.  Been watching ultra competitive "pee wee" games for six years.  Even at the youngest levels, these kids have heart and go all out.  You'd be amazed frankly.  There is a lot of similarities between those games and the nba.  You just have no idea.

lol I am glad you enjoy coaching the young kids, but I will have whatever you are smoking.  Pee wee league has literally no similarities to the NBA.  Wow

For your information, my sons not a pee wee team.  He's on a gold level AAU team that has multiple (future) college players on it.  The same AAU that bred all the players in the nba now.  Will my kid and anyone on his team make it to the nba?  Odds are against it but like I said, you have no clue about being an actual competitive athlete.  They are all human.  They try hard but when you're coming up against someone that's better than you, sometimes things fall apart.

Wouldn't people being evaluated try harder than people that have signed huge contracts? I'm not sure I'm buying the argument that because their opponent is good truly competitive players won't bring their A game or something

[jambr380]

How does a professional basketball team allow a 26-0 run ??

So, Gerald Green, by himself, gets the Chicago series momentum turned back in Boston's favor and now he is MIA ? I am not suggesting he needs to always start, but at least the guy brings some offense when Thomas is not scoring. Maybe he helps prevent a 26-0 run.
Olynyk is USELESS - play Jalen Brown over him anyday.

No rhyme or reason to these rotations - it's like Stevens is throwing darts and hoping one hits.

Kelly Olynyk was pretty good in game 1 and 2, but he is up and down just like he was all year - its just who he is. You cant ignore him in case he decides to assert himself into the game, but Brad needs a shorter leash when its clear he isnt.

I do think we need less Crowder. He just isnt helping, and his defense is overrated.

I am going to go out on a limb and say that Olynyk wasn't the problem tonight (see 3rd quarter 26-0 run).

[droopdog7]

People seriously think this is about effort?  Seriously?  And brown is in during garbage time.  His play right now is less than meaningless.

You don't think the 3rd 1/4 massacre was at least partly due to effort?
We were passive beyond belief, we were practically bending over for the Wiz.

I absolutely don't think it's about effort.  What kind of sense does that make anyway?  You prefer to think that our guys choose not to try hard when the obvious answer is that we're at a serious talent disadvantage.  They have had huge runs in every game.  That's not an accident and it's not because the team isn't trying.

I went to a game this morning where my kids team beat the other one by 50 points.  They were trying as hard as they could but were outmanned.

Look effort isn't just about running as fast as you can down the court.  It is a mental approach as well.  The mentality to say we are going to stop this 15 point run right now while we are still in the game.  Part of that is effort.  The mental weakness allows the poor effort to continue.  We just don't have guys who are mentally tough.

We obviously have talented players on our team, maybe not good enough to win series with the cavs, but good enough to respond better than they did today.

Let me explain something, and I'll use my kids team as an analogy.  When they play they cons usually tell before the game starts whether the other team is better, worse, our about the same.  When a team is better, everything falls into plays and they look great.  When they aren't, things tend to fall apart. 

All that stuff about heart is garbage because talent wins out.

Lol I don't know how someone can watch this particular team struggle with "showing up" to certain games all season long and come away with such a non-sensical opinion.

This team was only as good as it was the last couple of years because of our heart. We simply don't have it this year due to an entitled attitude.

Yep, both the team and the coach feel entitled.

Clearly the fans will entitled...and are clueless as usual.

This is quite hilarious coming from the guy comparing the NBA to a pee-wee team...

Are you suggesting that nba players are not human?  Or that they don't have better players?  And that our players don't care?  When did we stop caring because we did beat Chicago?  Did Chicago not care?

As for a pee wee team, obviously you don't understand that either.  Been watching ultra competitive "pee wee" games for six years.  Even at the youngest levels, these kids have heart and go all out.  You'd be amazed frankly.  There is a lot of similarities between those games and the nba.  You just have no idea.

lol I am glad you enjoy coaching the young kids, but I will have whatever you are smoking.  Pee wee league has literally no similarities to the NBA.  Wow

For your information, my sons not a pee wee team.  He's on a gold level AAU team that has multiple (future) college players on it.  The same AAU that bred all the players in the nba now.  Will my kid and anyone on his team make it to the nba?  Odds are against it but like I said, you have no clue about being an actual competitive athlete.  They are all human.  They try hard but when you're coming up against someone that's better than you, sometimes things fall apart.

Dude just can the 'you have no clue about being an actual competitive athlete' crap.  You have know idea my background or anything about me.  Thanks

I know you have no idea what it means to be a competitive athlete.  Because if you did, you'd acknowledge what I am saying is true.  The competitive kids are programed at a very young age.  They face pressure every game that feels the same at every stage.

So yeah, I don't know what you are.  But I do know what you are not.

[jpotter33]

People seriously think this is about effort?  Seriously?  And brown is in during garbage time.  His play right now is less than meaningless.

You don't think the 3rd 1/4 massacre was at least partly due to effort?
We were passive beyond belief, we were practically bending over for the Wiz.

I absolutely don't think it's about effort.  What kind of sense does that make anyway?  You prefer to think that our guys choose not to try hard when the obvious answer is that we're at a serious talent disadvantage.  They have had huge runs in every game.  That's not an accident and it's not because the team isn't trying.

I went to a game this morning where my kids team beat the other one by 50 points.  They were trying as hard as they could but were outmanned.

Look effort isn't just about running as fast as you can down the court.  It is a mental approach as well.  The mentality to say we are going to stop this 15 point run right now while we are still in the game.  Part of that is effort.  The mental weakness allows the poor effort to continue.  We just don't have guys who are mentally tough.

We obviously have talented players on our team, maybe not good enough to win series with the cavs, but good enough to respond better than they did today.

Let me explain something, and I'll use my kids team as an analogy.  When they play they cons usually tell before the game starts whether the other team is better, worse, our about the same.  When a team is better, everything falls into plays and they look great.  When they aren't, things tend to fall apart. 

All that stuff about heart is garbage because talent wins out.

Lol I don't know how someone can watch this particular team struggle with "showing up" to certain games all season long and come away with such a non-sensical opinion.

This team was only as good as it was the last couple of years because of our heart. We simply don't have it this year due to an entitled attitude.

Yep, both the team and the coach feel entitled.

Clearly the fans will entitled...and are clueless as usual.

This is quite hilarious coming from the guy comparing the NBA to a pee-wee team...

Are you suggesting that nba players are not human?  Or that they don't have better players?  And that our players don't care?  When did we stop caring because we did beat Chicago?  Did Chicago not care?

As for a pee wee team, obviously you don't understand that either.  Been watching ultra competitive "pee wee" games for six years.  Even at the youngest levels, these kids have heart and go all out.  You'd be amazed frankly.  There is a lot of similarities between those games and the nba.  You just have no idea.

lol I am glad you enjoy coaching the young kids, but I will have whatever you are smoking.  Pee wee league has literally no similarities to the NBA.  Wow

For your information, my sons not a pee wee team.  He's on a gold level AAU team that has multiple (future) college players on it.  The same AAU that bred all the players in the nba now.  Will my kid and anyone on his team make it to the nba?  Odds are against it but like I said, you have no clue about being an actual competitive athlete.  They are all human.  They try hard but when you're coming up against someone that's better than you, sometimes things fall apart.

Dude just can the 'you have no clue about being an actual competitive athlete' crap.  You have know idea my background or anything about me.  Thanks

I know you have no idea what it means to be a competitive athlete.  Because if you did, you'd acknowledge what I am saying is true.  The competitive kids are programed at a very young age.  They face pressure every game that feels the same at every stage.

So yeah, I don't know what you are.  But I do know what you are not.

Lol wow, you're pretty delusional (and arrogant), huh? It's pretty smug and delusional to act like you definitively know someone on an internet blog that you've never met.

You should probably just take a step back and sit down; your ignorance is showing here.

[blink]

People seriously think this is about effort?  Seriously?  And brown is in during garbage time.  His play right now is less than meaningless.

You don't think the 3rd 1/4 massacre was at least partly due to effort?
We were passive beyond belief, we were practically bending over for the Wiz.

I absolutely don't think it's about effort.  What kind of sense does that make anyway?  You prefer to think that our guys choose not to try hard when the obvious answer is that we're at a serious talent disadvantage.  They have had huge runs in every game.  That's not an accident and it's not because the team isn't trying.

I went to a game this morning where my kids team beat the other one by 50 points.  They were trying as hard as they could but were outmanned.

Look effort isn't just about running as fast as you can down the court.  It is a mental approach as well.  The mentality to say we are going to stop this 15 point run right now while we are still in the game.  Part of that is effort.  The mental weakness allows the poor effort to continue.  We just don't have guys who are mentally tough.

We obviously have talented players on our team, maybe not good enough to win series with the cavs, but good enough to respond better than they did today.

Let me explain something, and I'll use my kids team as an analogy.  When they play they cons usually tell before the game starts whether the other team is better, worse, our about the same.  When a team is better, everything falls into plays and they look great.  When they aren't, things tend to fall apart. 

All that stuff about heart is garbage because talent wins out.

Lol I don't know how someone can watch this particular team struggle with "showing up" to certain games all season long and come away with such a non-sensical opinion.

This team was only as good as it was the last couple of years because of our heart. We simply don't have it this year due to an entitled attitude.

Yep, both the team and the coach feel entitled.

Clearly the fans will entitled...and are clueless as usual.

This is quite hilarious coming from the guy comparing the NBA to a pee-wee team...

Are you suggesting that nba players are not human?  Or that they don't have better players?  And that our players don't care?  When did we stop caring because we did beat Chicago?  Did Chicago not care?

As for a pee wee team, obviously you don't understand that either.  Been watching ultra competitive "pee wee" games for six years.  Even at the youngest levels, these kids have heart and go all out.  You'd be amazed frankly.  There is a lot of similarities between those games and the nba.  You just have no idea.

lol I am glad you enjoy coaching the young kids, but I will have whatever you are smoking.  Pee wee league has literally no similarities to the NBA.  Wow

For your information, my sons not a pee wee team.  He's on a gold level AAU team that has multiple (future) college players on it.  The same AAU that bred all the players in the nba now.  Will my kid and anyone on his team make it to the nba?  Odds are against it but like I said, you have no clue about being an actual competitive athlete.  They are all human.  They try hard but when you're coming up against someone that's better than you, sometimes things fall apart.

Dude just can the 'you have no clue about being an actual competitive athlete' crap.  You have know idea my background or anything about me.  Thanks

I know you have no idea what it means to be a competitive athlete.  Because if you did, you'd acknowledge what I am saying is true.  The competitive kids are programed at a very young age.  They face pressure every game that feels the same at every stage.

So yeah, I don't know what you are.  But I do know what you are not.

So because I disagree with you, you know all there is to know about me.  you win at arrogance I will admit that.

[makaveli]

How is it possible to watch a 20something - 0 run every freaking game...
And talk about a slum, you do a great job in the first half, and then amir johnson scores the only 5 points in the first 6 minutes...how!!!!??

[droopdog7]

People seriously think this is about effort?  Seriously?  And brown is in during garbage time.  His play right now is less than meaningless.

You don't think the 3rd 1/4 massacre was at least partly due to effort?
We were passive beyond belief, we were practically bending over for the Wiz.

I absolutely don't think it's about effort.  What kind of sense does that make anyway?  You prefer to think that our guys choose not to try hard when the obvious answer is that we're at a serious talent disadvantage.  They have had huge runs in every game.  That's not an accident and it's not because the team isn't trying.

I went to a game this morning where my kids team beat the other one by 50 points.  They were trying as hard as they could but were outmanned.

Look effort isn't just about running as fast as you can down the court.  It is a mental approach as well.  The mentality to say we are going to stop this 15 point run right now while we are still in the game.  Part of that is effort.  The mental weakness allows the poor effort to continue.  We just don't have guys who are mentally tough.

We obviously have talented players on our team, maybe not good enough to win series with the cavs, but good enough to respond better than they did today.

Let me explain something, and I'll use my kids team as an analogy.  When they play they cons usually tell before the game starts whether the other team is better, worse, our about the same.  When a team is better, everything falls into plays and they look great.  When they aren't, things tend to fall apart. 

All that stuff about heart is garbage because talent wins out.

Lol I don't know how someone can watch this particular team struggle with "showing up" to certain games all season long and come away with such a non-sensical opinion.

This team was only as good as it was the last couple of years because of our heart. We simply don't have it this year due to an entitled attitude.

Yep, both the team and the coach feel entitled.

Clearly the fans will entitled...and are clueless as usual.

This is quite hilarious coming from the guy comparing the NBA to a pee-wee team...

Are you suggesting that nba players are not human?  Or that they don't have better players?  And that our players don't care?  When did we stop caring because we did beat Chicago?  Did Chicago not care?

As for a pee wee team, obviously you don't understand that either.  Been watching ultra competitive "pee wee" games for six years.  Even at the youngest levels, these kids have heart and go all out.  You'd be amazed frankly.  There is a lot of similarities between those games and the nba.  You just have no idea.

lol I am glad you enjoy coaching the young kids, but I will have whatever you are smoking.  Pee wee league has literally no similarities to the NBA.  Wow

For your information, my sons not a pee wee team.  He's on a gold level AAU team that has multiple (future) college players on it.  The same AAU that bred all the players in the nba now.  Will my kid and anyone on his team make it to the nba?  Odds are against it but like I said, you have no clue about being an actual competitive athlete.  They are all human.  They try hard but when you're coming up against someone that's better than you, sometimes things fall apart.

Dude just can the 'you have no clue about being an actual competitive athlete' crap.  You have know idea my background or anything about me.  Thanks

I know you have no idea what it means to be a competitive athlete.  Because if you did, you'd acknowledge what I am saying is true.  The competitive kids are programed at a very young age.  They face pressure every game that feels the same at every stage.

So yeah, I don't know what you are.  But I do know what you are not.

So because I disagree with you, you know all there is to know about me.  you win at arrogance I will admit that.

Hey, this isn't an Internet threat.  But I've laid out my background for why I know what I know.  Shockingly, you have not.  So yeah, that's pretty much all I need to know.

And no, it's not because you disagree with me that you're wrong.  It's because you've laid out zero reasoning behind your stance except to say that you can't compare youth sports to the nba.  No substance behind that statement.

[Ilikesports17]

People seriously think this is about effort?  Seriously?  And brown is in during garbage time.  His play right now is less than meaningless.

You don't think the 3rd 1/4 massacre was at least partly due to effort?
We were passive beyond belief, we were practically bending over for the Wiz.

I absolutely don't think it's about effort.  What kind of sense does that make anyway?  You prefer to think that our guys choose not to try hard when the obvious answer is that we're at a serious talent disadvantage.  They have had huge runs in every game.  That's not an accident and it's not because the team isn't trying.

I went to a game this morning where my kids team beat the other one by 50 points.  They were trying as hard as they could but were outmanned.

Look effort isn't just about running as fast as you can down the court.  It is a mental approach as well.  The mentality to say we are going to stop this 15 point run right now while we are still in the game.  Part of that is effort.  The mental weakness allows the poor effort to continue.  We just don't have guys who are mentally tough.

We obviously have talented players on our team, maybe not good enough to win series with the cavs, but good enough to respond better than they did today.

Let me explain something, and I'll use my kids team as an analogy.  When they play they cons usually tell before the game starts whether the other team is better, worse, our about the same.  When a team is better, everything falls into plays and they look great.  When they aren't, things tend to fall apart. 

All that stuff about heart is garbage because talent wins out.

Lol I don't know how someone can watch this particular team struggle with "showing up" to certain games all season long and come away with such a non-sensical opinion.

This team was only as good as it was the last couple of years because of our heart. We simply don't have it this year due to an entitled attitude.

Yep, both the team and the coach feel entitled.

Clearly the fans will entitled...and are clueless as usual.

This is quite hilarious coming from the guy comparing the NBA to a pee-wee team...

Are you suggesting that nba players are not human?  Or that they don't have better players?  And that our players don't care?  When did we stop caring because we did beat Chicago?  Did Chicago not care?

As for a pee wee team, obviously you don't understand that either.  Been watching ultra competitive "pee wee" games for six years.  Even at the youngest levels, these kids have heart and go all out.  You'd be amazed frankly.  There is a lot of similarities between those games and the nba.  You just have no idea.

lol I am glad you enjoy coaching the young kids, but I will have whatever you are smoking.  Pee wee league has literally no similarities to the NBA.  Wow

For your information, my sons not a pee wee team.  He's on a gold level AAU team that has multiple (future) college players on it.  The same AAU that bred all the players in the nba now.  Will my kid and anyone on his team make it to the nba?  Odds are against it but like I said, you have no clue about being an actual competitive athlete.  They are all human.  They try hard but when you're coming up against someone that's better than you, sometimes things fall apart.

Dude just can the 'you have no clue about being an actual competitive athlete' crap.  You have know idea my background or anything about me.  Thanks

I know you have no idea what it means to be a competitive athlete.  Because if you did, you'd acknowledge what I am saying is true.  The competitive kids are programed at a very young age.  They face pressure every game that feels the same at every stage.

So yeah, I don't know what you are.  But I do know what you are not.

Im not sure if heart is the right term, but there are certainly a lot of things other than talent and coaching that go into winning.

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People seriously think this is about effort?  Seriously?  And brown is in during garbage time.  His play right now is less than meaningless.

You don't think the 3rd 1/4 massacre was at least partly due to effort?
We were passive beyond belief, we were practically bending over for the Wiz.

I absolutely don't think it's about effort.  What kind of sense does that make anyway?  You prefer to think that our guys choose not to try hard when the obvious answer is that we're at a serious talent disadvantage.  They have had huge runs in every game.  That's not an accident and it's not because the team isn't trying.

I went to a game this morning where my kids team beat the other one by 50 points.  They were trying as hard as they could but were outmanned.

Look effort isn't just about running as fast as you can down the court.  It is a mental approach as well.  The mentality to say we are going to stop this 15 point run right now while we are still in the game.  Part of that is effort.  The mental weakness allows the poor effort to continue.  We just don't have guys who are mentally tough.

We obviously have talented players on our team, maybe not good enough to win series with the cavs, but good enough to respond better than they did today.

Let me explain something, and I'll use my kids team as an analogy.  When they play they cons usually tell before the game starts whether the other team is better, worse, our about the same.  When a team is better, everything falls into plays and they look great.  When they aren't, things tend to fall apart. 

All that stuff about heart is garbage because talent wins out.

Lol I don't know how someone can watch this particular team struggle with "showing up" to certain games all season long and come away with such a non-sensical opinion.

This team was only as good as it was the last couple of years because of our heart. We simply don't have it this year due to an entitled attitude.

Yep, both the team and the coach feel entitled.

Clearly the fans will entitled...and are clueless as usual.

This is quite hilarious coming from the guy comparing the NBA to a pee-wee team...

Are you suggesting that nba players are not human?  Or that they don't have better players?  And that our players don't care?  When did we stop caring because we did beat Chicago?  Did Chicago not care?

As for a pee wee team, obviously you don't understand that either.  Been watching ultra competitive "pee wee" games for six years.  Even at the youngest levels, these kids have heart and go all out.  You'd be amazed frankly.  There is a lot of similarities between those games and the nba.  You just have no idea.

lol I am glad you enjoy coaching the young kids, but I will have whatever you are smoking.  Pee wee league has literally no similarities to the NBA.  Wow

For your information, my sons not a pee wee team.  He's on a gold level AAU team that has multiple (future) college players on it.  The same AAU that bred all the players in the nba now.  Will my kid and anyone on his team make it to the nba?  Odds are against it but like I said, you have no clue about being an actual competitive athlete.  They are all human.  They try hard but when you're coming up against someone that's better than you, sometimes things fall apart.

Dude just can the 'you have no clue about being an actual competitive athlete' crap.  You have know idea my background or anything about me.  Thanks

I know you have no idea what it means to be a competitive athlete.  Because if you did, you'd acknowledge what I am saying is true.  The competitive kids are programed at a very young age.  They face pressure every game that feels the same at every stage.

So yeah, I don't know what you are.  But I do know what you are not.

So because I disagree with you, you know all there is to know about me.  you win at arrogance I will admit that.

Hey, this isn't an Internet threat.  But I've laid out my background for why I know what I know.  Shockingly, you have not.  So yeah, that's pretty much all I need to know.

And no, it's not because you disagree with me that you're wrong.  It's because you've laid out zero reasoning behind your stance except to say that you can't compare youth sports to the nba.  No substance behind that statement.

Look, I think it is idiotic to compare AAU ball and the NBA.  They literally aren't comparable.   I don't have to give you a freaking thesis to disagree with you on that.  You are the one that is making this thing personal so why don't you just stop ok?