Celtics (2-1) at Wizards (1-2) Round 2 Game 4 5/7/17

[inverselock]

Disgraceful.     Can't even make the slightest comeback.     Lucky its not Cleveland.

[celticinorlando]

Bradley hurt again

what happened? cant find anything on it.

Limped to lockerrom with ice around midsection

[Ogaju]

People seriously think this is about effort?  Seriously?  And brown is in during garbage time.  His play right now is less than meaningless.

You don't think the 3rd 1/4 massacre was at least partly due to effort?
We were passive beyond belief, we were practically bending over for the Wiz.

I absolutely don't think it's about effort.  What kind of sense does that make anyway?  You prefer to think that our guys choose not to try hard when the obvious answer is that we're at a serious talent disadvantage.  They have had huge runs in every game.  That's not an accident and it's not because the team isn't trying.

I went to a game this morning where my kids team beat the other one by 50 points.  They were trying as hard as they could but were outmanned.

Look effort isn't just about running as fast as you can down the court.  It is a mental approach as well.  The mentality to say we are going to stop this 15 point run right now while we are still in the game.  Part of that is effort.  The mental weakness allows the poor effort to continue.  We just don't have guys who are mentally tough.

We obviously have talented players on our team, maybe not good enough to win series with the cavs, but good enough to respond better than they did today.

Let me explain something, and I'll use my kids team as an analogy.  When they play they cons usually tell before the game starts whether the other team is better, worse, our about the same.  When a team is better, everything falls into plays and they look great.  When they aren't, things tend to fall apart. 

All that stuff about heart is garbage because talent wins out.

Lol I don't know how someone can watch this particular team struggle with "showing up" to certain games all season long and come away with such a non-sensical opinion.

This team was only as good as it was the last couple of years because of our heart. We simply don't have it this year due to an entitled attitude.

Yep, both the team and the coach feel entitled.

[jpotter33]

Bradley hurt again

what happened? cant find anything on it.

Limped to lockerrom with ice around midsection

Great, so will that be his excuse this year?

[Smitty77]

People seriously think this is about effort?  Seriously?  And brown is in during garbage time.  His play right now is less than meaningless.

You don't think the 3rd 1/4 massacre was at least partly due to effort?
We were passive beyond belief, we were practically bending over for the Wiz.

I absolutely don't think it's about effort.  What kind of sense does that make anyway?  You prefer to think that our guys choose not to try hard when the obvious answer is that we're at a serious talent disadvantage.  They have had huge runs in every game.  That's not an accident and it's not because the team isn't trying.

I went to a game this morning where my kids team beat the other one by 50 points.  They were trying as hard as they could but were outmanned.

Look effort isn't just about running as fast as you can down the court.  It is a mental approach as well.  The mentality to say we are going to stop this 15 point run right now while we are still in the game.  Part of that is effort.  The mental weakness allows the poor effort to continue.  We just don't have guys who are mentally tough.

We obviously have talented players on our team, maybe not good enough to win series with the cavs, but good enough to respond better than they did today.

Let me explain something, and I'll use my kids team as an analogy.  When they play they cons usually tell before the game starts whether the other team is better, worse, our about the same.  When a team is better, everything falls into plays and they look great.  When they aren't, things tend to fall apart. 

All that stuff about heart is garbage because talent wins out.

They might have more over-all talent RIGHT NOW, but they do NOT have hardly ANY CAP room after they give Porter a virtual MAX.  They are what they are.  We have or should have room to sign a MAX and we are GUARANTEED a top 4 pick this year and a almost GUARANTEED top 7 pick NEXT YEAR.  We WILL have size next year as Zizic is coming.  I am NOT sold on Yabusele.  Nadar SHOULD make our team (Saw him play in person twice!!  He is LEGIT!!)

We were NOT built to win this year.

IF the Wiz beat us, I doubt they win ONE freaking game vs. the Cavs!!!

Smitty77

[Ogaju]

Bradley hurt again

what happened? cant find anything on it.

Limped to lockerrom with ice around midsection

probably the hip injury from the last game.

[droopdog7]

People seriously think this is about effort?  Seriously?  And brown is in during garbage time.  His play right now is less than meaningless.

You don't think the 3rd 1/4 massacre was at least partly due to effort?
We were passive beyond belief, we were practically bending over for the Wiz.

I absolutely don't think it's about effort.  What kind of sense does that make anyway?  You prefer to think that our guys choose not to try hard when the obvious answer is that we're at a serious talent disadvantage.  They have had huge runs in every game.  That's not an accident and it's not because the team isn't trying.

I went to a game this morning where my kids team beat the other one by 50 points.  They were trying as hard as they could but were outmanned.

Look effort isn't just about running as fast as you can down the court.  It is a mental approach as well.  The mentality to say we are going to stop this 15 point run right now while we are still in the game.  Part of that is effort.  The mental weakness allows the poor effort to continue.  We just don't have guys who are mentally tough.

We obviously have talented players on our team, maybe not good enough to win series with the cavs, but good enough to respond better than they did today.

Let me explain something, and I'll use my kids team as an analogy.  When they play they cons usually tell before the game starts whether the other team is better, worse, our about the same.  When a team is better, everything falls into plays and they look great.  When they aren't, things tend to fall apart. 

All that stuff about heart is garbage because talent wins out.

Lol I don't know how someone can watch this particular team struggle with "showing up" to certain games all season long and come away with such a non-sensical opinion.

This team was only as good as it was the last couple of years because of our heart. We simply don't have it this year due to an entitled attitude.

Yep, both the team and the coach feel entitled.

Clearly the fans will entitled...and are clueless as usual. 

[hpantazo]

Bradley hurt again

what happened? cant find anything on it.

Limped to lockerrom with ice around midsection

probably the hip injury from the last game.

Yeah, Bradley looked terrible tonight. That hip has to be bothering him.

[jpotter33]

People seriously think this is about effort?  Seriously?  And brown is in during garbage time.  His play right now is less than meaningless.

You don't think the 3rd 1/4 massacre was at least partly due to effort?
We were passive beyond belief, we were practically bending over for the Wiz.

I absolutely don't think it's about effort.  What kind of sense does that make anyway?  You prefer to think that our guys choose not to try hard when the obvious answer is that we're at a serious talent disadvantage.  They have had huge runs in every game.  That's not an accident and it's not because the team isn't trying.

I went to a game this morning where my kids team beat the other one by 50 points.  They were trying as hard as they could but were outmanned.

Look effort isn't just about running as fast as you can down the court.  It is a mental approach as well.  The mentality to say we are going to stop this 15 point run right now while we are still in the game.  Part of that is effort.  The mental weakness allows the poor effort to continue.  We just don't have guys who are mentally tough.

We obviously have talented players on our team, maybe not good enough to win series with the cavs, but good enough to respond better than they did today.

Let me explain something, and I'll use my kids team as an analogy.  When they play they cons usually tell before the game starts whether the other team is better, worse, our about the same.  When a team is better, everything falls into plays and they look great.  When they aren't, things tend to fall apart. 

All that stuff about heart is garbage because talent wins out.

Lol I don't know how someone can watch this particular team struggle with "showing up" to certain games all season long and come away with such a non-sensical opinion.

This team was only as good as it was the last couple of years because of our heart. We simply don't have it this year due to an entitled attitude.

Yep, both the team and the coach feel entitled.

And literally none of us can figure out why, too. We've been asking this same exact question all season long, yet none of us have come up with a satisfactory answer as to how this team's philosophy and whole attitude/demeanor has changed so drastically in just one year.

We've seen spots of it throughout the season and in the playoffs, but nothing has been sustained for longer than a game at a time.

[Ogaju]

People seriously think this is about effort?  Seriously?  And brown is in during garbage time.  His play right now is less than meaningless.

You don't think the 3rd 1/4 massacre was at least partly due to effort?
We were passive beyond belief, we were practically bending over for the Wiz.

I absolutely don't think it's about effort.  What kind of sense does that make anyway?  You prefer to think that our guys choose not to try hard when the obvious answer is that we're at a serious talent disadvantage.  They have had huge runs in every game.  That's not an accident and it's not because the team isn't trying.

I went to a game this morning where my kids team beat the other one by 50 points.  They were trying as hard as they could but were outmanned.

Look effort isn't just about running as fast as you can down the court.  It is a mental approach as well.  The mentality to say we are going to stop this 15 point run right now while we are still in the game.  Part of that is effort.  The mental weakness allows the poor effort to continue.  We just don't have guys who are mentally tough.

We obviously have talented players on our team, maybe not good enough to win series with the cavs, but good enough to respond better than they did today.

Let me explain something, and I'll use my kids team as an analogy.  When they play they cons usually tell before the game starts whether the other team is better, worse, our about the same.  When a team is better, everything falls into plays and they look great.  When they aren't, things tend to fall apart. 

All that stuff about heart is garbage because talent wins out.

They might have more over-all talent RIGHT NOW, but they do NOT have hardly ANY CAP room after they give Porter a virtual MAX.  They are what they are.  We have or should have room to sign a MAX and we are GUARANTEED a top 4 pick this year and a almost GUARANTEED top 7 pick NEXT YEAR.  We WILL have size next year as Zizic is coming.  I am NOT sold on Yabusele.  Nadar SHOULD make our team (Saw him play in person twice!!  He is LEGIT!!)

We were NOT built to win this year.

IF the Wiz beat us, I doubt they win ONE freaking game vs. the Cavs!!!

Smitty77

If we beat the Cavs do we win one freaking game against the CAVS?

[blink]

Bradley hurt again

what happened? cant find anything on it.

Limped to lockerrom with ice around midsection

probably the hip injury from the last game.

Yeah he was holding it off and on during the game.  Hip pointer.  Trying to play through it, I give him that, AB is pretty tough.

[Smitty77]

I think the TURNING POINT in this series was when Morris threw Horford to the floor (No flagrant on that blatantly non-basketball move!!!) and NOT a SINGLE CELTIC had his back.

I think the series turned at that point.  The Wiz realized that we are SOFT and have NO BACKBONE and at that point they smelled blood in the water!!

Smitty77

Enough with the toughness and effort.  They have better players.

They have tougher players and refs that give the calls to Wall and NOT to the third leading scorer in the NBA!!!!

Smitty77

You need to anoint your star a superstar before he gets superstar calls. Apparently the refs have no problems issuing technical fouls to IT.

What?

Smitty77

[Ilikesports17]

People seriously think this is about effort?  Seriously?  And brown is in during garbage time.  His play right now is less than meaningless.

You don't think the 3rd 1/4 massacre was at least partly due to effort?
We were passive beyond belief, we were practically bending over for the Wiz.

I absolutely don't think it's about effort.  What kind of sense does that make anyway?  You prefer to think that our guys choose not to try hard when the obvious answer is that we're at a serious talent disadvantage.  They have had huge runs in every game.  That's not an accident and it's not because the team isn't trying.

I went to a game this morning where my kids team beat the other one by 50 points.  They were trying as hard as they could but were outmanned.

Look effort isn't just about running as fast as you can down the court.  It is a mental approach as well.  The mentality to say we are going to stop this 15 point run right now while we are still in the game.  Part of that is effort.  The mental weakness allows the poor effort to continue.  We just don't have guys who are mentally tough.

We obviously have talented players on our team, maybe not good enough to win series with the cavs, but good enough to respond better than they did today.

Let me explain something, and I'll use my kids team as an analogy.  When they play they cons usually tell before the game starts whether the other team is better, worse, our about the same.  When a team is better, everything falls into plays and they look great.  When they aren't, things tend to fall apart. 

All that stuff about heart is garbage because talent wins out.

They might have more over-all talent RIGHT NOW, but they do NOT have hardly ANY CAP room after they give Porter a virtual MAX.  They are what they are.  We have or should have room to sign a MAX and we are GUARANTEED a top 4 pick this year and a almost GUARANTEED top 7 pick NEXT YEAR.  We WILL have size next year as Zizic is coming.  I am NOT sold on Yabusele.  Nadar SHOULD make our team (Saw him play in person twice!!  He is LEGIT!!)

We were NOT built to win this year.

IF the Wiz beat us, I doubt they win ONE freaking game vs. the Cavs!!!

Smitty77

they cant make any big additions, but Beal and Porter are just 23. Plenty of room for the Wiz to improve.

[jpotter33]

People seriously think this is about effort?  Seriously?  And brown is in during garbage time.  His play right now is less than meaningless.

You don't think the 3rd 1/4 massacre was at least partly due to effort?
We were passive beyond belief, we were practically bending over for the Wiz.

I absolutely don't think it's about effort.  What kind of sense does that make anyway?  You prefer to think that our guys choose not to try hard when the obvious answer is that we're at a serious talent disadvantage.  They have had huge runs in every game.  That's not an accident and it's not because the team isn't trying.

I went to a game this morning where my kids team beat the other one by 50 points.  They were trying as hard as they could but were outmanned.

Look effort isn't just about running as fast as you can down the court.  It is a mental approach as well.  The mentality to say we are going to stop this 15 point run right now while we are still in the game.  Part of that is effort.  The mental weakness allows the poor effort to continue.  We just don't have guys who are mentally tough.

We obviously have talented players on our team, maybe not good enough to win series with the cavs, but good enough to respond better than they did today.

Let me explain something, and I'll use my kids team as an analogy.  When they play they cons usually tell before the game starts whether the other team is better, worse, our about the same.  When a team is better, everything falls into plays and they look great.  When they aren't, things tend to fall apart. 

All that stuff about heart is garbage because talent wins out.

Lol I don't know how someone can watch this particular team struggle with "showing up" to certain games all season long and come away with such a non-sensical opinion.

This team was only as good as it was the last couple of years because of our heart. We simply don't have it this year due to an entitled attitude.

Yep, both the team and the coach feel entitled.

Clearly the fans will entitled...and are clueless as usual.

This is quite hilarious coming from the guy comparing the NBA to a pee-wee team...

[Smitty77]

People seriously think this is about effort?  Seriously?  And brown is in during garbage time.  His play right now is less than meaningless.

You don't think the 3rd 1/4 massacre was at least partly due to effort?
We were passive beyond belief, we were practically bending over for the Wiz.

I absolutely don't think it's about effort.  What kind of sense does that make anyway?  You prefer to think that our guys choose not to try hard when the obvious answer is that we're at a serious talent disadvantage.  They have had huge runs in every game.  That's not an accident and it's not because the team isn't trying.

I went to a game this morning where my kids team beat the other one by 50 points.  They were trying as hard as they could but were outmanned.

Look effort isn't just about running as fast as you can down the court.  It is a mental approach as well.  The mentality to say we are going to stop this 15 point run right now while we are still in the game.  Part of that is effort.  The mental weakness allows the poor effort to continue.  We just don't have guys who are mentally tough.

We obviously have talented players on our team, maybe not good enough to win series with the cavs, but good enough to respond better than they did today.

Let me explain something, and I'll use my kids team as an analogy.  When they play they cons usually tell before the game starts whether the other team is better, worse, our about the same.  When a team is better, everything falls into plays and they look great.  When they aren't, things tend to fall apart. 

All that stuff about heart is garbage because talent wins out.

They might have more over-all talent RIGHT NOW, but they do NOT have hardly ANY CAP room after they give Porter a virtual MAX.  They are what they are.  We have or should have room to sign a MAX and we are GUARANTEED a top 4 pick this year and a almost GUARANTEED top 7 pick NEXT YEAR.  We WILL have size next year as Zizic is coming.  I am NOT sold on Yabusele.  Nadar SHOULD make our team (Saw him play in person twice!!  He is LEGIT!!)

We were NOT built to win this year.

IF the Wiz beat us, I doubt they win ONE freaking game vs. the Cavs!!!

Smitty77

If we beat the Cavs do we win one freaking game against the CAVS?

We have a BETTER chance than do the WIZ!!  Are you a Celtics' fan?

Smitty77