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Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017-2018 season watch thread
« Reply #150 on: July 25, 2017, 03:02:27 PM »

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Will just say that we are getting two top 5 picks next year. No doubt in my mind, regardless of all the drama that will occur in this thread during next season. Brooklyn and LA are just that bad.

I am being the pessimist here, but what is the best case scenario for our lottery %? BRK first and LAL 2nd? There still are 1/5 (19.9%) chances LAL gets the first pick. The chances that this combines with BRK getting the 4th (35.7) are roughly 1/15.

Even with the best  season results, there is a significant chance we end up being disappointed, assuming the expectation is what I've read repeatedly in the Forums these days (two top 5 picks).

Clearly we want BKN #1. Nothing to lose there, as it's the best pick possible and anything top-3 is guaranteed to stay top-6 anyway.

Lakers as high as possible but theoretically #3 or #4 #1 could would be more "safe" deliciously satisfying in terms of conveyance should their pick slide to #2 while the Nets jump to the top pick.

#1 pick: 25% chance of #1, 75% chance of 2-4
#2 pick: 20% chance of #1, 80% chance of 2-5
#3 pick: 16% chance of #1, 84% chance of 2-6
#4 pick: 12% chance of #1, 86% chance of 2-6, 2% chance of #7*

* Roughly:
28% chance of 1st pick going to any team in 5-14 position
~25% chance of the next pick doing the same
~23% chance of the next pick doing the same
there, fixed it for you

Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017-2018 season watch thread
« Reply #151 on: July 25, 2017, 03:16:47 PM »

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Will just say that we are getting two top 5 picks next year. No doubt in my mind, regardless of all the drama that will occur in this thread during next season. Brooklyn and LA are just that bad.

I am being the pessimist here, but what is the best case scenario for our lottery %? BRK first and LAL 2nd? There still are 1/5 (19.9%) chances LAL gets the first pick. The chances that this combines with BRK getting the 4th (35.7) are roughly 1/15.

Even with the best  season results, there is a significant chance we end up being disappointed, assuming the expectation is what I've read repeatedly in the Forums these days (two top 5 picks).

Clearly we want BKN #1. Nothing to lose there, as it's the best pick possible and anything top-3 is guaranteed to stay top-6 anyway.

Lakers as high as possible but theoretically #3 or #4 #1 could would be more "safe" deliciously satisfying in terms of conveyance should their pick slide to #2 while the Nets jump to the top pick.

#1 pick: 25% chance of #1, 75% chance of 2-4
#2 pick: 20% chance of #1, 80% chance of 2-5
#3 pick: 16% chance of #1, 84% chance of 2-6
#4 pick: 12% chance of #1, 86% chance of 2-6, 2% chance of #7*

* Roughly:
28% chance of 1st pick going to any team in 5-14 position
~25% chance of the next pick doing the same
~23% chance of the next pick doing the same
there, fixed it for you

Looks like it's going to be a combined BKN and LAL lottery watch thread this year.

Mike

Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017-2018 season watch thread
« Reply #152 on: July 25, 2017, 04:08:55 PM »

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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20155116/the-portland-trail-blazers-trading-guard-allen-crabbe-brooklyn-nets-sources-said
They just added another player Allen Crabbe to the mix. They will have a better bench.
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Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017-2018 season watch thread
« Reply #153 on: July 25, 2017, 04:11:04 PM »

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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20155116/the-portland-trail-blazers-trading-guard-allen-crabbe-brooklyn-nets-sources-said
They just added another player Allen Crabbe to the mix. They will have a better bench.

LOL at the worst team in the league having a "better bench".

Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017-2018 season watch thread
« Reply #154 on: July 25, 2017, 04:12:27 PM »

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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20155116/the-portland-trail-blazers-trading-guard-allen-crabbe-brooklyn-nets-sources-said
They just added another player Allen Crabbe to the mix. They will have a better bench.

LOL at the worst team in the league having a "better bench".

Haha, yeah.  Although if Crabbe isn't starting I don't know why they made this trade.

Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017-2018 season watch thread
« Reply #155 on: July 25, 2017, 04:12:51 PM »

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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20155116/the-portland-trail-blazers-trading-guard-allen-crabbe-brooklyn-nets-sources-said
They just added another player Allen Crabbe to the mix. They will have a better bench.
The kids is deadly for 3 pt. 44% last season and he played in 79 games! It's an ugly contract for a pretty good player. Does make them better, unfortunately.

Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017-2018 season watch thread
« Reply #156 on: July 25, 2017, 04:26:22 PM »

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As long as it's a top 10 pick...I'm good.

Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017-2018 season watch thread
« Reply #157 on: July 25, 2017, 04:31:04 PM »

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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20155116/the-portland-trail-blazers-trading-guard-allen-crabbe-brooklyn-nets-sources-said
They just added another player Allen Crabbe to the mix. They will have a better bench.
The kids is deadly for 3 pt. 44% last season and he played in 79 games! It's an ugly contract for a pretty good player. Does make them better, unfortunately.

Still a terrible team.

Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017-2018 season watch thread
« Reply #158 on: July 25, 2017, 04:46:04 PM »

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Portland has traded Allen Crabbe to Brooklyn for Andrew Nicholson, league sources tell ESPN.

can someone tell me why brooklyn did this? unless there's a pick involved, why did they want to just absorb the crabbe contract?

Because they think Allen Crabbe is a good basketball player, and they'll be paying him a net of $12 million a year (when you take the difference of his contract and Nicholson's).  They think Crabbe is worth $12 million a year (approximately) for three more years.

I mostly agree.  Much more upside than downside at his age, and you might discover he's ready for a leading role.  And if he's not, he's reasonably paid for a 6th man.

It shouldn't be much of a surprise.  They gave Crabbe an offer sheet for the same contract last offseason, so they clearly thought he was worth it (yes, they expected Portland to match when they made the offer, but I can't see Marks risking the team's cap long term unless he was willing to pay that contract)
I'm bitter.

Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017-2018 season watch thread
« Reply #159 on: July 25, 2017, 04:47:26 PM »

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Will just say that we are getting two top 5 picks next year. No doubt in my mind, regardless of all the drama that will occur in this thread during next season. Brooklyn and LA are just that bad.

I am being the pessimist here, but what is the best case scenario for our lottery %? BRK first and LAL 2nd? There still are 1/5 (19.9%) chances LAL gets the first pick. The chances that this combines with BRK getting the 4th (35.7) are roughly 1/15.

Even with the best  season results, there is a significant chance we end up being disappointed, assuming the expectation is what I've read repeatedly in the Forums these days (two top 5 picks).

Clearly we want BKN #1. Nothing to lose there, as it's the best pick possible and anything top-3 is guaranteed to stay top-6 anyway.

Lakers as high as possible but theoretically #3 or #4 could be more "safe" in terms of conveyance.

#1 pick: 25% chance of #1, 75% chance of 2-4
#2 pick: 20% chance of #1, 80% chance of 2-5
#3 pick: 16% chance of #1, 84% chance of 2-6
#4 pick: 12% chance of #1, 86% chance of 2-6, 2% chance of #7*

* Roughly:
28% chance of 1st pick going to any team in 5-14 position
~25% chance of the next pick doing the same
~23% chance of the next pick doing the same

Why include the chance that it's 2-6? We only get it if it's 2-5
I'm bitter.

Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017-2018 season watch thread
« Reply #160 on: July 25, 2017, 05:22:31 PM »

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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20155116/the-portland-trail-blazers-trading-guard-allen-crabbe-brooklyn-nets-sources-said
They just added another player Allen Crabbe to the mix. They will have a better bench.

LOL at the worst team in the league having a "better bench".
Benchs win games ask Cleveland when they were beat by Atlanta's bench. The Celtics Bench won us some games last year, too
The Nets are going to surprise some people. They upgraded and got rid of a bad contract. Marks is a smart cookie. After this year I hope the do great!!! This could cause us no. 5 instead of 4.
"People look at players, watch them dribble between their legs and they say, 'There's a superstar.'  Well John Havlicek is a superstar, and most of the others are figments of writers' imagination."
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Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017-2018 season watch thread
« Reply #161 on: July 25, 2017, 06:43:08 PM »

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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20155116/the-portland-trail-blazers-trading-guard-allen-crabbe-brooklyn-nets-sources-said
They just added another player Allen Crabbe to the mix. They will have a better bench.

LOL at the worst team in the league having a "better bench".
Benchs win games ask Cleveland when they were beat by Atlanta's bench. The Celtics Bench won us some games last year, too
The Nets are going to surprise some people. They upgraded and got rid of a bad contract. Marks is a smart cookie. After this year I hope the do great!!! This could cause us no. 5 instead of 4.

LOL what on earth. Crabbe is a garbage contract that Portland unloaded on these poor saps and the Nets didnt even get a pick out of it. If the Celtics made this trash trade Ainge would be getting murdered.

Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017-2018 season watch thread
« Reply #162 on: July 25, 2017, 06:46:25 PM »

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Crabbe, Russell and LeVert are 3 pretty good offensive players.

RHJ is as pretty good player.

The talent is getting better....no defense, though.,

I think they have only 2 guys over 6'8, Mozgov and Jarrett Allen. One's a dinosaur and the other a young rookie who didn't play up to his early season hype at UT and got off to a slow start.

Allen did have a MONSTER game vs Kansas (22/19) once conference play started, but he is at least a year away from helping, which is good for us.

Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017-2018 season watch thread
« Reply #163 on: July 25, 2017, 06:57:23 PM »

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Is anyone else nervous about our Nets pick?

Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017-2018 season watch thread
« Reply #164 on: July 25, 2017, 07:00:06 PM »

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Is anyone else nervous about our Nets pick?

LOL. Nets will win less than 20 games. REEEELLLLAAAXXXXX