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Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017-2018 season watch thread
« Reply #120 on: July 12, 2017, 07:18:49 PM »

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In that Bogdanovic trade with Washington, Andrew Nicholson looks like a bad contract that they took on along with the Wizards lottery protected pick (#22). He has 19.9 million and three years left.

Edit: Didn't realize the second rounder they got along with Carroll and the 1st is an early 2nd though.
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Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017-2018 season watch thread
« Reply #121 on: July 14, 2017, 11:40:20 PM »

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Magic got better with simmons signing.  Magic were one of only 3-4 teams that I thought would be worse than the Lakers (even with KCP). Nets and Bulls are the only teams that are clearly worse than the Lakers now imo.

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« Reply #122 on: July 15, 2017, 06:51:42 AM »

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Magic got better with simmons signing.  Magic were one of only 3-4 teams that I thought would be worse than the Lakers (even with KCP). Nets and Bulls are the only teams that are clearly worse than the Lakers now imo.

Hawks?  Bulls?  Suns?  Kings?
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Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017-2018 season watch thread
« Reply #123 on: July 15, 2017, 06:56:11 AM »

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Magic got better with simmons signing.  Magic were one of only 3-4 teams that I thought would be worse than the Lakers (even with KCP). Nets and Bulls are the only teams that are clearly worse than the Lakers now imo.

Hawks?  Bulls?  Suns?  Kings?
Not the Kings, they've has a great off-season.  Maybe not the Suns either.

Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017-2018 season watch thread
« Reply #124 on: July 15, 2017, 07:20:49 AM »

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Magic got better with simmons signing.  Magic were one of only 3-4 teams that I thought would be worse than the Lakers (even with KCP). Nets and Bulls are the only teams that are clearly worse than the Lakers now imo.

Hawks?  Bulls?  Suns?  Kings?
Not the Kings, they've has a great off-season.  Maybe not the Suns either.

I was going to say this, but the Kings' FO can always ruin things  ;D

From what the rosters are now, it's quite safe to say we'll land a top-8 pick.

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« Reply #125 on: July 15, 2017, 08:30:30 AM »

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Magic got better with simmons signing.  Magic were one of only 3-4 teams that I thought would be worse than the Lakers (even with KCP). Nets and Bulls are the only teams that are clearly worse than the Lakers now imo.

Hawks?  Bulls?  Suns?  Kings?
The Bulls should be pretty terrible.

I think the Suns/Kings will show some improvement as their young players grow (Suns) + FA additions they made (Kings).

Not sure where I stand with the Hawks. They won't be anywhere as good as last year but they still have some nice players (Schroder/Bazemore/Prince/Collins) and a good coach. Don't think they will be as bad as everyone thinks.

Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017-2018 season watch thread
« Reply #126 on: July 24, 2017, 01:47:48 PM »

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BROOKLYN (July 21, 2017) – The Brooklyn Nets have signed Yakuba Ouattara to a two-way contract. Per team policy, terms of the deal were not released.

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ESPN's Fran Fraschilla said the Brooklyn Nets are at @thetournament (in Brooklyn) today watching former #Buckeyes big man Jared Sullinger.

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Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017-2018 season watch thread
« Reply #127 on: July 24, 2017, 02:04:21 PM »

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Magic got better with simmons signing.  Magic were one of only 3-4 teams that I thought would be worse than the Lakers (even with KCP). Nets and Bulls are the only teams that are clearly worse than the Lakers now imo.

Hawks?  Bulls?  Suns?  Kings?

.. And Pacers and Mavericks.

The Lakers will be bad, but I would bet they are 6-10 bad not 1-5 bad.

Again it's still a lottery though

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« Reply #128 on: July 24, 2017, 02:10:58 PM »

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Magic got better with simmons signing.  Magic were one of only 3-4 teams that I thought would be worse than the Lakers (even with KCP). Nets and Bulls are the only teams that are clearly worse than the Lakers now imo.

Hawks?  Bulls?  Suns?  Kings?

.. And Pacers and Mavericks.

The Lakers will be bad, but I would bet they are 6-10 bad not 1-5 bad.

Again it's still a lottery though

Mavericks are significantly better than the Lakers.  It's not even close.

Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017-2018 season watch thread
« Reply #129 on: July 24, 2017, 02:28:05 PM »

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Magic got better with simmons signing.  Magic were one of only 3-4 teams that I thought would be worse than the Lakers (even with KCP). Nets and Bulls are the only teams that are clearly worse than the Lakers now imo.

Hawks?  Bulls?  Suns?  Kings?

.. And Pacers and Mavericks.

The Lakers will be bad, but I would bet they are 6-10 bad not 1-5 bad.

Again it's still a lottery though

Mavericks are significantly better than the Lakers.  It's not even close.

People need to take a gander at the Lakers roster. They will be starting the worst defensive guard and C in the league. Brandon Ingram and Julius Randle will be relied on for heavy minutes and scoring. KCP will be their best 2-way player. They will be abysmal

Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017-2018 season watch thread
« Reply #130 on: July 24, 2017, 02:30:11 PM »

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Magic got better with simmons signing.  Magic were one of only 3-4 teams that I thought would be worse than the Lakers (even with KCP). Nets and Bulls are the only teams that are clearly worse than the Lakers now imo.

Hawks?  Bulls?  Suns?  Kings?

.. And Pacers and Mavericks.

The Lakers will be bad, but I would bet they are 6-10 bad not 1-5 bad.

Again it's still a lottery though

Mavericks are significantly better than the Lakers.  It's not even close.

I'm not seeing the Mavericks being a lot better than anyone. They have a rookie PG with Barnes as their #1 option, and a 39 year-old Dirk in the starting lineup. Noel clogging up the lane on offense. No bench (Seth Curry?).

Lonzo Ball ~ Dennis Smith
KCP ~ Barnes
Ingram ~ Matthews
Randle ~ 39 year-old Dirk
Lopez ~ Noel

Both teams should lose a lot of games, but I'm not seeing the big discrepancy between the two.

Lakers won 26 games last year and swapped Russell, Young, L Williams, Mozgov for Ball, KCP and Lopez. Randle, Ingram, Zubac should all be expected to only improve.

Mavericks won 33 games last year and swapped Deron Williams for Dennis Smith and more games with Noel (who I like, but really hurts to play as a starter with a weak offense).

Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017-2018 season watch thread
« Reply #131 on: July 24, 2017, 02:32:08 PM »

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Magic got better with simmons signing.  Magic were one of only 3-4 teams that I thought would be worse than the Lakers (even with KCP). Nets and Bulls are the only teams that are clearly worse than the Lakers now imo.

Hawks?  Bulls?  Suns?  Kings?

.. And Pacers and Mavericks.

The Lakers will be bad, but I would bet they are 6-10 bad not 1-5 bad.

Again it's still a lottery though

Mavericks are significantly better than the Lakers.  It's not even close.

I'm not seeing the Mavericks being a lot better than anyone. They have a rookie PG with Barnes as their #1 option, and a 39 year-old Dirk in the starting lineup. Noel clogging up the lane on offense. No bench (Seth Curry?).

Lonzo Ball ~ Dennis Smith
KCP ~ Barnes
Ingram ~ Matthews
Randle ~ 39 year-old Dirk
Lopez ~ Noel

Both teams should lose a lot of games, but I'm not seeing the big discrepancy between the two.

Lakers won 26 games last year and swapped Russell, Young, L Williams, Mozgov for Ball, KCP and Lopez. Randle, Ingram, Zubac should all be expected to only improve.

Mavericks won 33 games last year and swapped Deron Williams for Dennis Smith and more games with Noel (who I like, but really hurts to play as a starter with a weak offense).

Lakers overchieved last year given their league-worst defense. They won 5-6 more games than they should have. I'd say 28 wins is their ceiling this year unless the D radically improves..

Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017-2018 season watch thread
« Reply #132 on: July 24, 2017, 02:32:37 PM »

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Magic got better with simmons signing.  Magic were one of only 3-4 teams that I thought would be worse than the Lakers (even with KCP). Nets and Bulls are the only teams that are clearly worse than the Lakers now imo.

Hawks?  Bulls?  Suns?  Kings?

.. And Pacers and Mavericks.

The Lakers will be bad, but I would bet they are 6-10 bad not 1-5 bad.

Again it's still a lottery though

Mavericks are significantly better than the Lakers.  It's not even close.

People need to take a gander at the Lakers roster. They will be starting the worst defensive guard and C in the league. Brandon Ingram and Julius Randle will be relied on for heavy minutes and scoring. KCP will be their best 2-way player. They will be abysmal

Lopez is an above average center, and an upgrade from Mozgov, even if defense isn't his primary trait. Ball should be no worse than Russell. KCP is an upgrade from Nick Young and Louis Williams. Ingram and Randle got heavy minutes last year.

I hope they bomb, but they are better than last year's 26 win team.

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« Reply #133 on: July 24, 2017, 02:34:39 PM »

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Magic got better with simmons signing.  Magic were one of only 3-4 teams that I thought would be worse than the Lakers (even with KCP). Nets and Bulls are the only teams that are clearly worse than the Lakers now imo.

Hawks?  Bulls?  Suns?  Kings?

.. And Pacers and Mavericks.

The Lakers will be bad, but I would bet they are 6-10 bad not 1-5 bad.

Again it's still a lottery though

Mavericks are significantly better than the Lakers.  It's not even close.

I'm not seeing the Mavericks being a lot better than anyone. They have a rookie PG with Barnes as their #1 option, and a 39 year-old Dirk in the starting lineup. Noel clogging up the lane on offense. No bench (Seth Curry?).

Lonzo Ball ~ Dennis Smith
KCP ~ Barnes
Ingram ~ Matthews
Randle ~ 39 year-old Dirk
Lopez ~ Noel

Both teams should lose a lot of games, but I'm not seeing the big discrepancy between the two.

Lakers won 26 games last year and swapped Russell, Young, L Williams, Mozgov for Ball, KCP and Lopez. Randle, Ingram, Zubac should all be expected to only improve.

Mavericks won 33 games last year and swapped Deron Williams for Dennis Smith and more games with Noel (who I like, but really hurts to play as a starter with a weak offense).

Lakers overchieved last year given their league-worst defense. They won 5-6 more games than they should have. I'd say 28 wins is their ceiling this year unless the D radically improves..

I think 5-6 games is a stretch, but I see your point. Some teams have more volatility that the stats would predict. So maybe they are 5-10 games more talented this year, but their luck may even out in the other direction.

Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017-2018 season watch thread
« Reply #134 on: July 24, 2017, 02:35:02 PM »

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Magic got better with simmons signing.  Magic were one of only 3-4 teams that I thought would be worse than the Lakers (even with KCP). Nets and Bulls are the only teams that are clearly worse than the Lakers now imo.

Hawks?  Bulls?  Suns?  Kings?

.. And Pacers and Mavericks.

The Lakers will be bad, but I would bet they are 6-10 bad not 1-5 bad.

Again it's still a lottery though

Mavericks are significantly better than the Lakers.  It's not even close.

People need to take a gander at the Lakers roster. They will be starting the worst defensive guard and C in the league. Brandon Ingram and Julius Randle will be relied on for heavy minutes and scoring. KCP will be their best 2-way player. They will be abysmal

Lopez is an above average center, and an upgrade from Mozgov, even if defense isn't his primary trait. Ball should be no worse than Russell. KCP is an upgrade from Nick Young and Louis Williams. Ingram and Randle got heavy minutes last year.

I hope they bomb, but they are better than last year's 26 win team.

Doubtful unless their D improves massively. The leagues worst defensive team averages about 20 wins in the NBA. 2nd and 3rd worst average 24. Something special will need to happen for them to climb out of the bottom 3