Poll: Avery, Jae, Nets 2018 for George

[Eja117]

He doesn't want to be here

[A Future of Stevens]

Subtract Bradley and replace the 18 pick with the 17 pick

This is like the exact opposite of what I think should happen in this scenario. Bradley is going to cost absurd amounts to keep, while Fultz or who we take with this years pick is cost controlled. This is especially important given we will have to toss a max at PG13 in like a year, and big money at IT4 on top of Horfords max.

[Geo123]

Not unless he agrees to an extension, just too much for only 1 year of George.  Plus as someone else said it doesn't work cap wise.

[jambr380]

How could we still sign Hayward in free agency after that trade? We will already struggle to open the necessary space, making a trade where we take on money makes it even harder. Milsap's max is higher than Hayward's as well.

So the teams wouldn't look like you describe. You'd have to send the Nets 17 in this trade instead of the Nets 18.

Would I make that trade? Tempting for the upgrade in talent but no not without George agreeing to an extension, which I doubt he does.

Paul George will make $19.3M

AB will make $8.8M
Crowder will make $6.8M
The #3 pick (for instance) will make $4.7

For a total of $20.3M

I am sure my numbers are off and I will be corrected, but a basic trade that KGLL has laid out, plus a signing of Hayward should be able to be completed later in the summer after the 30 days has gone by for our rookie signing. Trading for Butler in this scenario is actually a lot easier since he will only make $17.5M next year and, of course, is signed for an extra year.

Anyway, if trading for either George or Butler guaranteed us Hayward, then yes, of course I do the deal (although losing Crowder and our 2017 pick will absolutely obliterate our future cap).

[SHAQATTACK]

So basically, we're just going to buy an nba title

Sounds good to me

[SHAQATTACK]

Not unless he agrees to an extension, just too much for only 1 year of George.  Plus as someone else said it doesn't work cap wise.

The cap does not matter, it's play now time  , you are committing like the Cavs to winning ......you don't stop short of the prize . And loose because you did not want to spend to compete.

You bring George to the finals ....that's reason for him to stay and like the Cavs and LeBron , you keep pouring in the money to get over that hump. 

LeBron would not stay on the Cavs team,  if they would stay under the cap. He d go insane ,  and leave.   Paul George will go to Lakers because they are willing to spend above the cap to assemble a team to compete. 

You bring George , he is not gonna stay , if you **** foot around for years waiting on the draft to produce the next Irving or Wade .

If you bring him .....you are now all in ,  same as KD , you have to expect to exceed the cap to keep a core of players there .

Pacers don't have forever to put other stars around George .  They have most likely have  dily dally too long already to seriously upgrade to hold on to George .  Now they may have to go back to tank seasons.

[Darío SpanishFan]

Not unless he agrees to an extension, just too much for only 1 year of George.  Plus as someone else said it doesn't work cap wise.

The cap does not matter, it's play now time  , you are committing like the Cavs to winning ......you don't stop short of the prize . And loose because you did not want to spend to compete.

LeBron would not stay on the Cavs team,  if they would stay under the cap. He d go insane ,  and leave.   Paul George will go to Lakers because they are willing to spend above the cap to assemble a team to compete. 

You bring George , he is not gonna stay , if you **** foot around for years waiting on the draft to produce the next Irving or Wade .

If you bring him .....you are now all in ,  same as KD , you have to expect to exceed the cap to keep a core of players there .

Apart from the cap, you are not addressing our main concern, he'll maybe leave after a year. A year when nobody guarantees you a championship even with him and Hayward.

So...if he doesn't sign an extension, no trade.

[Smokeeye123]

Call me crazy but I might do this trade without any guarantee he'd sign long term. We aren't resigning bradley anyways so the trade is basically crowder and 2018 for george. With GSW getting worse and the cavs getting worse each year it's our time to pounce the next 2 years.

[saltlover]

How could we still sign Hayward in free agency after that trade? We will already struggle to open the necessary space, making a trade where we take on money makes it even harder. Milsap's max is higher than Hayward's as well.

So the teams wouldn't look like you describe. You'd have to send the Nets 17 in this trade instead of the Nets 18.

Would I make that trade? Tempting for the upgrade in talent but no not without George agreeing to an extension, which I doubt he does.

Paul George will make $19.3M

AB will make $8.8M
Crowder will make $6.8M
The #3 pick (for instance) will make $4.7

For a total of $20.3M

I am sure my numbers are off and I will be corrected, but a basic trade that KGLL has laid out, plus a signing of Hayward should be able to be completed later in the summer after the 30 days has gone by for our rookie signing. Trading for Butler in this scenario is actually a lot easier since he will only make $17.5M next year and, of course, is signed for an extra year.

Anyway, if trading for either George or Butler guaranteed us Hayward, then yes, of course I do the deal (although losing Crowder and our 2017 pick will absolutely obliterate our future cap).

KGLL is proposing that we trade the 2018 pick and keep the 2017 pick.  That is the problem with his numbers.

[slamtheking]

voted no for 2 reasons.
1. there's no commitment from PG that he stays past next year instead of bolting the to Lakers (or somewhere else).  No way I part with 3 of our 6 top trade assets for a 1 year rental of George.

2. IF PG agreed to extent here (very big IF), I'd be more inclined to include the 2017 pick for 2 reasons--> A) because we already know it's a top 4 pick at worst, we may be able to hang on to either AB or Crowder and substitute a lesser asset in their place.  (B) This draft has primarily guards which is what we have the most of.  2018 has more big man prospects which we sorely need.  Even though I strongly believe the 2018 pick will be top 8 at worst, that's not a guarantee (although I've pegged the range of the Nets picks accurately so far) but a risk I'd be willing to take to get a good big man to build with for the future.

[td450]

A trade for the 2018 pick is a bad idea because it costs us a free agent signing too.

So if its the 2017 pick, we would be making such a trade already knowing draft position. I'd be OK with it only if we knew we couldn't get Fultz, and we had high confidence in signing Hayward, Griffin or Milsap. If we couldn't get one of those guys, we wouldn't have enough to compete for a title. We'd be better off loading up for the future.

[Evantime34]

He doesn't want to be here

He wants to win, he'll like it here just fine if it's as part of one of the best teams in the league.

[Somebody]

Subtract Bradley and replace the 18 pick with the 17 pick

This is like the exact opposite of what I think should happen in this scenario. Bradley is going to cost absurd amounts to keep, while Fultz or who we take with this years pick is cost controlled. This is especially important given we will have to toss a max at PG13 in like a year, and big money at IT4 on top of Horfords max.

Well if we're going to include Bradley and Crowder, I would want to replace the 18 Brooklyn pick with the Memphis pick, Clippers pick, our '18 first round pick and 3 second round draft picks of their choice (ofc they can take Mickey or Jackson as one 2nd each)

[colincb]

George will opt out this summer and play for the Fakers at the max.

[LilRip]

I would do this trade. I don't buy the rumors that PG wants to play for the Lakers. The dude wants to play for a winner and he wants to beat Lebron. The Lakers don't give him an opportunity to do that. Looking far ahead, if we make it to the ECF and go down against Cleveland in 6 games, I think he'd be very intrigued to join us.