Reminder: We are rebuilding not contending

[biggs]

Sorry buddy, but once we traded for IT, we ended rebuild mode and entered "compete" mode. Teams that are rebuilding build through the draft, not pulling their team in two directions to please ownership.

Bad loss, bad team. No excuses.

Bradley/Crowder/Amir are horrible starters and excellent bench players. Unfortunately, ownership is greedy and ruined our rebuild by forcing the IT trade, leaving IT to drag around this misfit team of bench players.

If we were rebuilding, we would have two lottery picks this year, with one being our own.

[__ramonezy__]

Sorry buddy, but once we traded for IT, we ended rebuild mode and entered "compete" mode. Teams that are rebuilding build through the draft, not pulling their team in two directions to please ownership.

Bad loss, bad team. No excuses.

Bradley/Crowder/Amir are horrible starters and excellent bench players. Unfortunately, ownership is greedy and ruined our rebuild by forcing the IT trade, leaving IT to drag around this misfit team of bench players.

If we were rebuilding, we would have two lottery picks this year, with one being our own.

This is wrong on so many levels. IT became an all star last season while playing for the Celtics... when we traded for him he could barely break the Suns guard rotation of Bledsoe and Knight. Your response made it seem like we traded for an all star when we actually created one and this year he continued to grow and is now an MVP candidate.

Secondly, one star doesn't create a contender... see OKC, Bulls, Pacers and unfortunately us.

[Surferdad]

We are only a rebuilding team because Ainge decided that this was another rebuilding year.  It didn't have to be that way.  He could have acquired Ibaka (or Noel) and perhaps Tucker too.  That would have made this team "contending" no doubt in my mind.

But hey, if you want to take the long view and completely ignore any hope to compete this year, that's perfectly fine.  However, we as fans have a right to complain and criticize Ainge, at least on this board.

[Moranis]

If we were rebuilding, we would have two lottery picks this year, with one being our own.

Boston has a pick swap with Brooklyn all being in the lottery this year does is give the Nets a better pick.

[Eddie20]

Sorry buddy, but once we traded for IT, we ended rebuild mode and entered "compete" mode. Teams that are rebuilding build through the draft, not pulling their team in two directions to please ownership.

Bad loss, bad team. No excuses.

Bradley/Crowder/Amir are horrible starters and excellent bench players. Unfortunately, ownership is greedy and ruined our rebuild by forcing the IT trade, leaving IT to drag around this misfit team of bench players.

If we were rebuilding, we would have two lottery picks this year, with one being our own.

This is wrong on so many levels. IT became an all star last season while playing for the Celtics... when we traded for him he could barely break the Suns guard rotation of Bledsoe and Knight. Your response made it seem like we traded for an all star when we actually created one and this year he continued to grow and is now an MVP candidate.

You're actually incorrect. The Suns started Dragic and Bledsoe and acquired Knight as part of the deal that sent Thomas to us.

[BE-Celtic]

Being a rebuilding team is one thing, being competitive if another one.

If you finish with the #1 seed, even if it was not your objective, you can legitimately expect to beat a poor #8.

I think we are in a weird spot because of the BKN pick and some players are still very young, but we can all agree that the staff is building a "Winner mentality". So if you play Chicago, wether you are "rebuilding" or not, you have to beat them, that's all.

It doens't mean we think Celtics are contenders or anything. Just that we are better than Chicago and can expect to beat them at home.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Being a rebuilding team is one thing, being competitive if another one.

If you finish with the #1 seed, even if it was not your objective, you can legitimately expect to beat a poor #8.

I think we are in a weird spot because of the BKN pick and some players are still very young, but we can all agree that the staff is building a "Winner mentality". So if you play Chicago, wether you are "rebuilding" or not, you have to beat them, that's all.

It doens't mean we think Celtics are contenders or anything. Just that we are better than Chicago and can expect to beat them at home.

I was about to say that the truth about this Celtics team is that they're somewhere in between the easy-to-label extremes of "contender" and "rebuilding," and what you wrote here hits on that truth. Boston's not winning the title this year, or coming anywhere close to it, but the Celtics are still a 1 seed, which makes them a sight more than a mere "rebuilding" team in the strictest sense of the word. This Celtics team is better than this year's Bulls team, and certainly shouldn't drop a home game to them.

[SHAQATTACK]

If Danny had added Cousins and Noel ....two bigs .....traded away the junk bigs .....we would be in the conversation EASY .


Cavs are 120 million .....we may need to,spend that to compete .....

So either the owners want to beat the Cavs or they don't want to spend to do it.

Talented Bigs ...costs expensive contracts.

[Surferdad]

If Danny had added Cousins and Noel ....two bigs .....traded away the junk bigs .....we would be in the conversation EASY .


Cavs are 120 million .....we may need to,spend that to compete .....

So either the owners want to beat the Cavs or they don't want to spend to do it.

Talented Bigs ...costs expensive contracts.

Bingo.  I am a faithful Ainge supporter.  However, just like any relationship, if you can't be honest and free to criticize where warranted, then it's not a real thing.

As someone said in the game thread, this loss is on Danny. The players and coach and fans did their best.

[LilRip]

Being a rebuilding team is one thing, being competitive if another one.

If you finish with the #1 seed, even if it was not your objective, you can legitimately expect to beat a poor #8.

I think we are in a weird spot because of the BKN pick and some players are still very young, but we can all agree that the staff is building a "Winner mentality". So if you play Chicago, wether you are "rebuilding" or not, you have to beat them, that's all.

It doens't mean we think Celtics are contenders or anything. Just that we are better than Chicago and can expect to beat them at home.

Exactly. "Rebuilding" doesn't excuse lack of effort/getting outworked. Even if we finished as the #2 seed, we should still take care of things at home.

[kraidstar]

If Danny had added Cousins and Noel ....two bigs .....traded away the junk bigs .....we would be in the conversation EASY .


Cavs are 120 million .....we may need to,spend that to compete .....

So either the owners want to beat the Cavs or they don't want to spend to do it.

Talented Bigs ...costs expensive contracts.

I disagree, we would still lack the scoring to win a championship.

IT and Cousins didn't exactly set the world on fire together in Sacto.

And the cost to acquire Cousins might be higher than people think, they reportedly loved Buddy Hield and also wanted a pick in this draft.

Getting Cousins might have hampered our ability to pursue a trade for a second scorer.

[__ramonezy__]

Being a rebuilding team is one thing, being competitive if another one.

If you finish with the #1 seed, even if it was not your objective, you can legitimately expect to beat a poor #8.

I think we are in a weird spot because of the BKN pick and some players are still very young, but we can all agree that the staff is building a "Winner mentality". So if you play Chicago, wether you are "rebuilding" or not, you have to beat them, that's all.

It doens't mean we think Celtics are contenders or anything. Just that we are better than Chicago and can expect to beat them at home.

Exactly. "Rebuilding" doesn't excuse lack of effort/getting outworked. Even if we finished as the #2 seed, we should still take care of things at home.

This is an unfair comment... there is one thing I would never criticize this team for is lack of effort. We simply don't have good rebounding players... not that they don't try.

Chicago is ranked 3rd in rebounds. If a team gets 17 more possessions than us in a game we're gonna be in trouble. Because of how we are constructed our team struggles with length... I would actually be more comfortable playing Golden State than Bucks.

 The key to this series may lie in JJ or Zeller adding some front court grit.

[CoachBo]

Being a rebuilding team is one thing, being competitive if another one.

If you finish with the #1 seed, even if it was not your objective, you can legitimately expect to beat a poor #8.

I think we are in a weird spot because of the BKN pick and some players are still very young, but we can all agree that the staff is building a "Winner mentality". So if you play Chicago, wether you are "rebuilding" or not, you have to beat them, that's all.

It doens't mean we think Celtics are contenders or anything. Just that we are better than Chicago and can expect to beat them at home.

Exactly. "Rebuilding" doesn't excuse lack of effort/getting outworked. Even if we finished as the #2 seed, we should still take care of things at home.

This is an unfair comment... there is one thing I would never criticize this team for is lack of effort. We simply don't have good rebounding players... not that they don't try.

Chicago is ranked 3rd in rebounds. If a team gets 17 more possessions than us in a game we're gonna be in trouble. Because of how we are constructed our team struggles with length... I would actually be more comfortable playing Golden State than Bucks.

 The key to this series may lie in JJ or Zeller adding some front court grit.

Uh, no.

Rebounding is 85 percent effort. Olynyk, for example, gives no effort whatsoever on the boards.

People aren't born to rebound. That's just an excuse when your favorite team doesn't care enough to rebound.

[flybono]

How many years are we the fans going to hide behind a rebuild?
Everyone talks as if Ainge is the Messiah. 1 ring with 3 Hall of Famers does not warrant "great GM" status those years of the big 3..

Again, zero bench depth much like the big 3 era..

IF? Ainge had a chance to trade for Butler at the deadline and did not, he should be fired...
If Butler wins this Series, Chicago will never trade him. Then your stuck with a Rookie if George really wants to be in LA

[flybono]

Being a rebuilding team is one thing, being competitive if another one.

If you finish with the #1 seed, even if it was not your objective, you can legitimately expect to beat a poor #8.

I think we are in a weird spot because of the BKN pick and some players are still very young, but we can all agree that the staff is building a "Winner mentality". So if you play Chicago, wether you are "rebuilding" or not, you have to beat them, that's all.

It doens't mean we think Celtics are contenders or anything. Just that we are better than Chicago and can expect to beat them at home.

Exactly. "Rebuilding" doesn't excuse lack of effort/getting outworked. Even if we finished as the #2 seed, we should still take care of things at home.

This is an unfair comment... there is one thing I would never criticize this team for is lack of effort. We simply don't have good rebounding players... not that they don't try.

Chicago is ranked 3rd in rebounds. If a team gets 17 more possessions than us in a game we're gonna be in trouble. Because of how we are constructed our team struggles with length... I would actually be more comfortable playing Golden State than Bucks.

 The key to this series may lie in JJ or Zeller adding some front court grit.

Who gets the blame, the players? Not a chance.. It's all on Ainge at the moment