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Best draft options : Top 4
« on: April 15, 2017, 03:25:48 PM »

Online drogbagarnett

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To keep it simple I will say :

1 Flutz
2 Tatum
3 Jackson
4 Markkanen

Now to elaborate a little :

1 Flutz : Ideal
Best player in the draft superstar potential. He solves our "second go to scorer with size that can handle the ball, create space and get shot of over defense and create for others" issue.

Potential Team :
Thomas Smart Rozier
Flutz Bradley Young
Crowder Brown Nader
Olynyk Yabusele Mickey
Horford Zizic Free Agent

2 Tatum : No need for Hayward
Superstar potential. Solves the same issue as Flutz but from the wing position.

Potential Team:
Thomas Smart Rozier
Brown Bradley Young
Crowder Tatum Nader
Olynyk Yabusele Mickey
Horford Zizic Free Agent

3 Jackson : No need for Butler
Star potential. Fits into the team mantra of aggressive perimeter defense. Perfect Ainge type pick.

Potential Team:
Thomas Smart Rozier
Brown Bradley Young
Crowder Jackson Nader
Olynyk Yabusele Mickey
Horford Zizic Free Agent

4 Markkanen : Especially if KO is leaving
Great Role Player, Unicorn potential. Becomes our deadly 3pt shooter with size.

Potential Team:
Thomas Smart Rozier
Brown Bradley Free Agent
Crowder Young Nader
Olynyk Markkanen Yabusele
Horford Zizic Mickey

Overall I will be happy in any of the scenario.
I dont like Ball (nothing to do with his father)
I think Bradley should come from the bench.
I dont think we need to add a max contract but if it should happen then scenario 4 could be where we go for Hayward...

Re: Best draft options : Top 4
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2017, 04:34:31 PM »

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Fultz
Ball
Tatum
Jackson


Fultz looks like a special pick.  Assuming there are no concerns he is the top guy.

With all the talk surrounding his family it is easy to forget that Ball is one of the top prospects.  He has the potential to be a Jason Kidd type of player and that is truly special.  I wouldn't be surprised if he was higher on Bostons list than we might think.

I think Tatum would be a great fit in Boston, and if he added some size could be a solid stretch 4 in smaller line ups.  Only problem is that we are crowded at the wing.  No reason to pass on him if he is the guy but worth mentioning.

Jackson seems like a Danny Ainge type of player.  I don't think any of us would be too surprised if Ainge took him at two or three, but his offensive game and some of the off the court stuff is a bit of a concern to me.

I think so much of it is going to come down to the team workouts and interviews to see who would be the best fit.  Can't wait to see where we end up in the draft.

One nice thing about both Fultz and Ball is their size.  Either one could could play alongside any of our other guards,and I bet Stevens would love to have either one of them.

Re: Best draft options : Top 4
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2017, 04:40:23 PM »

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Markelle Fultz
Josh Jackson
Jayson Tatum
Dennis Smith, Jr.

The first three is pretty much self explanatory, 3 of the top 4 players projected.

Dennis Smith is a very interesting prospect for me. Super athletic, can get his own shot, can get to wherever he wants. There are some motor issues but he's as talented, maybe the most athletic and has as high an upside as the rest.

I don't want anything to do with Lonzo Ball. Very talented kid, but I don't want to deal with that circus of a dad he has.
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Re: Best draft options : Top 4
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2017, 05:02:37 PM »

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3 Jackson : No need for Butler
Star potential. Fits into the team mantra of aggressive perimeter defense. Perfect Ainge type pick

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2 Tatum : No need for Hayward
Superstar potential. Solves the same issue as Flutz but from the wing positio

Most every draft thing I can get my hands on, says the exact opposite that Jackson has the most potential in this draft.  What in heavens name did you base the star the superstar on?  You went to Duke perhaps?

Re: Best draft options : Top 4
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2017, 05:02:50 PM »

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Fultz
Jackson
Tatum
Ball

I have Fox 5th fwiw, then a big dropoff.

Fultz seems the total package. Should be able to score at will from anywhere on the court, can play on and off the ball and has the physical tools to be a plus defender. Downside is that he is a point guard and thats the easiest position in the league to find talent at.

Jackson is a stud defender, fits perfectly into the identity we have here. He is an unbelievable athlete and a good finisher and makes "winning plays" His shot and off court issues are concerning.

Tatum projects as an elite iso scorer which is really important in this game. he can play the 4, should stretch his range out to 3-point territory and doesnt have any glaring weaknesses.

I dont love Ball but you cant deny his talent. His inability to defend concerns me.

Fox I think has John Wall level upside. He is also virtually impossible to fit onto this team.
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Re: Best draft options : Top 4
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2017, 05:28:24 PM »

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1. Fultz
2. Jackson
3. Tatum
4. Monk
5. Fox
6. Issac
7. DSJR

no I didnt forget Ball

Re: Best draft options : Top 4
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2017, 03:05:02 PM »

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To keep it simple I will say :

1 Flutz
2 Tatum
3 Jackson
4 Markkanen

Now to elaborate a little :

1 Flutz : Ideal
Best player in the draft superstar potential. He solves our "second go to scorer with size that can handle the ball, create space and get shot of over defense and create for others" issue.

Potential Team :
Thomas Smart Rozier
Flutz Bradley Young
Crowder Brown Nader
Olynyk Yabusele Mickey
Horford Zizic Free Agent

2 Tatum : No need for Hayward
Superstar potential. Solves the same issue as Flutz but from the wing position.

Potential Team:
Thomas Smart Rozier
Brown Bradley Young
Crowder Tatum Nader
Olynyk Yabusele Mickey
Horford Zizic Free Agent

3 Jackson : No need for Butler
Star potential. Fits into the team mantra of aggressive perimeter defense. Perfect Ainge type pick.

Potential Team:
Thomas Smart Rozier
Brown Bradley Young
Crowder Jackson Nader
Olynyk Yabusele Mickey
Horford Zizic Free Agent

4 Markkanen : Especially if KO is leaving
Great Role Player, Unicorn potential. Becomes our deadly 3pt shooter with size.

Potential Team:
Thomas Smart Rozier
Brown Bradley Free Agent
Crowder Young Nader
Olynyk Markkanen Yabusele
Horford Zizic Mickey

Overall I will be happy in any of the scenario.
I dont like Ball (nothing to do with his father)
I think Bradley should come from the bench.
I dont think we need to add a max contract but if it should happen then scenario 4 could be where we go for Hayward...


I like your top three in the order you listed but I really really really dont like the idea of KO starting. I just dont see how that helps this team.

Re: Best draft options : Top 4
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2017, 11:50:16 AM »

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1. Fultz
2. Jackson
3. Tatum
4. Monk
5. Fox
6. Issac
7. DSJR

no I didnt forget Ball
The Ball hate is thick around here.  I consider myself a Ball hater too but I wouldn't slot him below #4.  In fact, that is where I have him, firmly in the second tier with Jackson and Tatum.  There is a drop off after those three.

Re: Best draft options : Top 4
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2017, 11:58:18 AM »

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Why do you write FLUTZ? Is it a joke or double sense that I am missing?  :-[

Also, Ball is a great prospect. I know all the stuff about his father, the Lakers and so on, but in a pure basketball debate he shouldn't be so low.

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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2017, 12:10:02 PM »

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My preference is as follows.
Fultz. Best prospect since LeBron
Jackson. Cut from the same cloth as Smart, Brown, Crowder with HUGE potential offensively.
Tatum. Melo with none of the salary or attitude issues? Yes please. I switch between taking Tatum 2nd and Jackson 3rd daily. I think Tatum could score for us on the 2nd unit from day 1.
Isaac. A better Brandon Ingram. A bit of a project in the making, but the potential is way too high to pass up.
Fultz (12) >>> Ball(9) = Jackson(9) = Tatum(9) > Isaac(8 )
Last year for context:
Simmons (10) >>>>>>>>Ingram (7) = Brown(7)

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Pro-Smart, Pro-Brown, Pro-Crowder, Pro-IT

Re: Best draft options : Top 4
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2017, 12:18:41 PM »

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Jackson
Ball
Tatum


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Fultz. Best prospect since LeBron

Better than Durant, Davis, KAT?


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Re: Best draft options : Top 4
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2017, 01:30:59 PM »

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Fultz. Best prospect since LeBron

Better than Durant, Davis, KAT?
Yeah, I wouldn't go that far.  In terms of prospects, Davis, Oden, and Durant were higher.  I'd put fultz about the same as KAT.

Re: Best draft options : Top 4
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2017, 02:18:36 PM »

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Fultz
Jackson
Tatum
Ball

That's what I expect to be the top 4. Fultz is obvious top pick for me. Offensive guard who can score and would be a good fit on this team.

Jackson has Celtic written all over. NBA ready body, elite defender, potential to be good scorer. Basically sounds like Smart/Brown/Bradley in a way. Ainge seems to have obsession with these types of players.

Tatum I like too. Worried about his actual position in NBA and if he can defend since he isn't an uber athlete. I like players that have the isolation game. Feel like it's going extinct with the way the game is going.

I think Ball slides. Not really anything to do with his dad. Just feel like he won't be able the score well or defend at the NBA level. Not questioning his passing ability.

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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2017, 02:20:01 PM »

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Fultz. Best prospect since LeBron

Better than Durant, Davis, KAT?

If this was true Id imagine Washington would have had a much better record this year
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