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Re: Jayson Tatum Comparison: Why he could be a really good fit
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2017, 12:14:25 PM »

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I'm more partial to Jackson because his floor is so good already.  But I can see a case for taking Tatum, as he is a year younger, and a little longer wing span.  Certainly if he is available at 4 you grab him.

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« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2017, 12:22:53 PM »

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If you end up with a top 4 pick, you don't use it to add scoring off the bench, you look for a star player who can provide mismatches.

Not saying Tatum won't be a good player but what does he do that stands out and says, I could be an elite NBA player someday?

1.303 points per possession. If that's not elite, I'm not sure what is.

His best pro comp - at maximum upside - may very well be Paul Pierce. Pierce was a 20/7 player in college from a big school who got to the FT line 6 times a game, shot 34% from 3 and 56% from 2 his Junior year. Tatum is a 20/8 player from a big school who got to the FT line 6 times a game, shot 34% from 3 and 50% from 2. Both are similar size, similar frames and had similar athleticism. It's hard to look at Tatum and not see some of Pierce's game.

Pierce was a junior though, Tatum is a freshman.  The reports about Tatum's work ethic have me convinced he is the best fit for us. 

I like the Pierce comp in terms of scoring versatility.

I truly believe that Tatum is a can't miss prospect and I would take him at number one.
Whoa Fultz is staring at you man

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« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2017, 01:15:58 PM »

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If you end up with a top 4 pick, you don't use it to add scoring off the bench, you look for a star player who can provide mismatches.

Not saying Tatum won't be a good player but what does he do that stands out and says, I could be an elite NBA player someday?

1.303 points per possession. If that's not elite, I'm not sure what is.

His best pro comp - at maximum upside - may very well be Paul Pierce. Pierce was a 20/7 player in college from a big school who got to the FT line 6 times a game, shot 34% from 3 and 56% from 2 his Junior year. Tatum is a 20/8 player from a big school who got to the FT line 6 times a game, shot 34% from 3 and 50% from 2. Both are similar size, similar frames and had similar athleticism. It's hard to look at Tatum and not see some of Pierce's game.

Pierce was a junior though, Tatum is a freshman.  The reports about Tatum's work ethic have me convinced he is the best fit for us. 

I like the Pierce comp in terms of scoring versatility.

I truly believe that Tatum is a can't miss prospect and I would take him at number one.

This is what I know. He has been working with a skills trainer for the last 6 years. He has done skill work with that coach during the season. I know that he has worked against nba players during the summer. My guess is he has worked against Beal and Wiggins as they have the same trainer.

What I hear is he is working out twoadays.

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« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2017, 01:17:00 PM »

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I'm more partial to Jackson because his floor is so good already.  But I can see a case for taking Tatum, as he is a year younger, and a little longer wing span.  Certainly if he is available at 4 you grab him.

I can see taking Tatum at 2. I dont have Ball infront of him. I dont see why Ball would be put infront of him especially on this team.

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« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2017, 02:30:40 PM »

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I'm more partial to Jackson because his floor is so good already.  But I can see a case for taking Tatum, as he is a year younger, and a little longer wing span.  Certainly if he is available at 4 you grab him.

I can see taking Tatum at 2. I dont have Ball infront of him. I dont see why Ball would be put infront of him especially on this team.

To be frank, I am currently leaning Tatum at 2 as well!! His defense scares me a little bit but if he can focus on it and show improvement in the workouts and embrace our bulldog mentality of aggressive perimeter defense, then he is my clear #2 (even maybe #1)

I definitely dont want everything to do with Ball!!! I would take Markkanen before Ball!! My ideal top 4 is :
1 Flutz
2 Tatum
3 Jackson
4 Markkanen

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« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2017, 03:40:47 PM »

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Tatum appears to me as a faceup/postmove specialist, but PP is a freethrow machine and killer shooter.
and i think the later is somewhat better than the former..

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« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2017, 05:07:55 PM »

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To be frank, I am currently leaning Tatum at 2 as well!! His defense scares me a little bit but if he can focus on it and show improvement in the workouts and embrace our bulldog mentality of aggressive perimeter defense, then he is my clear #2 (even maybe #1)

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« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2017, 05:19:05 PM »

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I think Jayson Tatum has a very high floor and a ceiling of a multiple all-star (though not a superstar).

I haven't gotten much agreement on here. But I do think Tatum will be the best going back and forth from a 2 to a 3. He could guard a 4 at times also, but i'd prefer not to. I think his defense will be very good at the 2, adequate to good at the 3 and poor to adequate at the 4.

I think he has the foot speed to guard quick players and will have strength/size to over power them.. He also has a very wide stride that makes him deceptively quick driving to the hoop and creating space  on the offensive end.

Since I project him as a guard and will compare him to guards in my comparisons which I believe are:

Floor: Khris Middleton with just slightly worse defense.
Ceiling: Klay Thompson

Klay Thompson may not be a superstar, but can take over games for stretches like a superstar. That's the kind of play I think Tatum is. I've watching him in interviews, he's a very intelligent player and thought of as a hard worker. Which is evident in his consistency all year for Duke. I felt like any time a read the box score he had 16-20 points, and that was even when his 3-point shot wasn't falling.

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« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2017, 02:59:27 AM »

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Danny said he likes shot creators  and that's what Tatum is.

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« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2017, 04:54:14 AM »

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Danny said he likes shot creators  and that's what Tatum is.
Yeah just a worse one than Fultz
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« Reply #25 on: May 27, 2017, 11:47:55 AM »

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Danny said he likes shot creators  and that's what Tatum is.
Yeah just a worse one than Fultz

Tatum step backs are better. 

But Fultz slashing to the basket is better.  Spins, herky jerky

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« Reply #26 on: May 27, 2017, 12:16:09 PM »

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Danny said he likes shot creators  and that's what Tatum is.
Yeah just a worse one than Fultz

Tatum step backs are better. 

But Fultz slashing to the basket is better.  Spins, herky jerky
Yeah, plus Fultz is elite in the pick & roll, both scoring and finding passing options. Perfect for what we run.
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« Reply #27 on: May 27, 2017, 05:05:23 PM »

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If you end up with a top 4 pick, you don't use it to add scoring off the bench, you look for a star player who can provide mismatches.

Not saying Tatum won't be a good player but what does he do that stands out and says, I could be an elite NBA player someday?
Tatum is a 20/8 player from a big school who got to the FT line 6 times a game.
Tatum didn't actually put up any of those numbers.

He put up 17/7 with 5 fts a game.

Edit: I'm assuming those are per 40 numbers?
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« Reply #28 on: May 27, 2017, 05:44:01 PM »

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Danny said he likes shot creators  and that's what Tatum is.
Yeah just a worse one than Fultz

Tatum step backs are better. 

But Fultz slashing to the basket is better.  Spins, herky jerky
Yeah, plus Fultz is elite in the pick & roll, both scoring and finding passing options. Perfect for what we run.
idk Filtz has some pretty nice step backs.

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« Reply #29 on: May 27, 2017, 05:45:57 PM »

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I'm more partial to Jackson because his floor is so good already.  But I can see a case for taking Tatum, as he is a year younger, and a little longer wing span.  Certainly if he is available at 4 you grab him.
Jackson has the higher ceiling but idk about higher floor.