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Who should win NBA MVP 2016-2017?

James Harden
16 (22.9%)
Kawhi Leonard
9 (12.9%)
Russell Westbrook
30 (42.9%)
LeBron James
5 (7.1%)
Steph Curry
0 (0%)
Isaiah Thomas
8 (11.4%)
John Wall
0 (0%)
Other
2 (2.9%)

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Re: Who Is Your Choice for 2016-2017 NBA MVP?
« Reply #30 on: April 04, 2017, 07:31:25 PM »

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Re: Who Is Your Choice for 2016-2017 NBA MVP?
« Reply #31 on: April 04, 2017, 07:46:06 PM »

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You're still picking LeBron despite how bad his team has been since the All-Star break?
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Re: Who Is Your Choice for 2016-2017 NBA MVP?
« Reply #32 on: April 04, 2017, 07:48:57 PM »

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You're still picking LeBron despite how bad his team has been since the All-Star break?
That's expected, it's moranis
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Re: Who Is Your Choice for 2016-2017 NBA MVP?
« Reply #33 on: April 04, 2017, 07:50:18 PM »

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You're still picking LeBron despite how bad his team has been since the All-Star break?

Yeah. Lebron has had a great season, underrated even, but despite having Kyrie and Love and being the defending champs, they are struggling to beat us out for the #1 seed. That doesn't earn you league MVP imo.

Re: Who Is Your Choice for 2016-2017 NBA MVP?
« Reply #34 on: April 04, 2017, 07:54:52 PM »

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You're still picking LeBron despite how bad his team has been since the All-Star break?
That's expected, it's moranis
At least he didn't pick Covington.

Re: Who Is Your Choice for 2016-2017 NBA MVP?
« Reply #35 on: April 04, 2017, 07:56:26 PM »

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You're still picking LeBron despite how bad his team has been since the All-Star break?
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At least he didn't pick Covington.
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Re: Who Is Your Choice for 2016-2017 NBA MVP?
« Reply #36 on: April 04, 2017, 08:20:46 PM »

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Harden, he's putting up numbers almost identical to Westbrook, but doing it much more efficiently. Just compare their usage percentages and you'll see why Harden has been the clearly better player.

Harden has also actually been a better defensive player this year too. People just seem to casually ignore the fact Westbrook has been slacking on that end of the court this year as badly as Harden has in the past.

I'd put Kawhi above Westbrook as well. His all around game deserves more credit than it gets.

Re: Who Is Your Choice for 2016-2017 NBA MVP?
« Reply #37 on: April 04, 2017, 08:20:58 PM »

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Re: Who Is Your Choice for 2016-2017 NBA MVP?
« Reply #38 on: April 04, 2017, 08:46:29 PM »

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No player is as important to their team's success as Lebron is to any of his teams for over a decade. He is still the absolute best player on the planet. He should have won 8-10 MVPs already but like MJ before him, he hasn't because the voters just won't do it. Lebron is the MVP.

Re: Who Is Your Choice for 2016-2017 NBA MVP?
« Reply #39 on: April 04, 2017, 08:47:46 PM »

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You're still picking LeBron despite how bad his team has been since the All-Star break?

Yeah. Lebron has had a great season, underrated even, but despite having Kyrie and Love and being the defending champs, they are struggling to beat us out for the #1 seed. That doesn't earn you league MVP imo.
The Cavs are absolutely terrible when James isn't on the court. He has by far the largest discrepancy in the league in the on/off Court numbers.  James is also setting career highs in both rpg and apg and is having a top 3 shooting season for his career.  You could realistically argue this is in fact James best season.  Couple that with the fact that he actually plays defense unlike both Harden and Westbrook and James gets my vote.

Let's not forget the only other time someone averaged a triple double someone else went for 50 and 23 and neither one of them was the league MVP.  That honor went to the guy that played on both ends of the floor i.e. Russell and Chamberlain and Robertson were both on top 4 teams as well so it wasn't just about winning.  Defense matters.
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Re: Who Is Your Choice for 2016-2017 NBA MVP?
« Reply #40 on: April 04, 2017, 09:34:57 PM »

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I have to go with Harden. What Westbrook is doing with averaging a triple double is really cool, but it's not like his stats are markedly better. The Rockets are clearly a better team this year and that matters - not only because Harden is doing more for his team, but also he is putting up huge stats on a considerably better team, which is more difficult to do.

I also think that Harden got pretty ripped off a couple of years ago when Steph won his first MVP. I realize this should not factor in at all - luckily I am not a voter.

Re: Who Is Your Choice for 2016-2017 NBA MVP?
« Reply #41 on: April 04, 2017, 09:40:31 PM »

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No player is as important to their team's success as Lebron is to any of his teams for over a decade. He is still the absolute best player on the planet. He should have won 8-10 MVPs already but like MJ before him, he hasn't because the voters just won't do it. Lebron is the MVP.

I don't think that's what the award is, though.  It's not a recognition of which player is the most talented or who is at their best when giving full effort.  The history of the award doesn't square with the notion that it's meant to go to the agreed-upon alpha dog of the NBA.

The bottom line for me with LeBron and the MVP is that it's a regular season award and he very obviously is not playing at his full effort during the regular season.  He hasn't for a few years now.  I don't blame him at all for that, but I don't think he is the MVP of the league for the regular season.

He's certainly capable of playing great on both ends, but during the regular season he has operated mostly as an offensive star with limited defensive responsibilities.  His team doesn't have the personnel to get by on the defensive end without him in superstar mode on that side of things, which is why they aren't playing to their potential.
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Re: Who Is Your Choice for 2016-2017 NBA MVP?
« Reply #42 on: April 04, 2017, 09:56:35 PM »

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I'd go Harden/Kawhi.

It's definitely not Westbrook, if humans had 12 fingers instead of 10 nobody would care about the stupid arbitrary nature of triple doubles or his stat padding joke of a season.

His play style is a major reason Durant left, that is 10x more of a negative than anything he does for his team on the court.

Re: Who Is Your Choice for 2016-2017 NBA MVP?
« Reply #43 on: April 04, 2017, 10:01:31 PM »

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Id go I.T. before Kawhi if were even mentioning these individuals

Re: Who Is Your Choice for 2016-2017 NBA MVP?
« Reply #44 on: April 04, 2017, 10:04:07 PM »

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 MVP of this season? Entertainment concidered. I have to go with Lavar Ball. :o