Finally figured out Fultz and Simmons strategy

[KG Living Legend]

 Why did these players who could go to school anywhere, choose pathetic schools. Here is why. If your the concensus #1 pick the only place you can move is down.

 Ball was locked in at #2 all year long until Fox dropped 39 points on him and UCLA lost in the sweet 16. Fox may have leaped above ball on some draft boards.

 To solve that problem here is the answer, don't play in the tournament, don't let people rip you apart when you will eventually lose a game as a freshman against guys three years older than you.

 It all makes perfect sense now. It's operation maintain your super high stock. KGLL solving problems one day at a time. Your welcome.

[kozlodoev]

Why did these players who could go to school anywhere, choose pathetic schools. Here is why. If your the concensus #1 pick the only place you can move is down.

 Ball was locked in at #2 all year long until Fox dropped 39 points on him and UCLA lost in the sweet 16. Fox may have leaped above ball on some draft boards.

 To solve that problem here is the answer, don't play in the tournament, don't let people rip you apart when you will eventually lose a game as a freshman against guys three years older than you.

 It all makes perfect sense now. It's operation maintain your super high stock. KGLL solving problems one day at a time. Your welcome.

Also, be the guy and put together a horribly padded stat sheet. Seems like a win-win.

[action781]

The even more lucrative strategy is the one that LSU and Washington employed.  Find the player you want and get his father/uncle/relative a spot on your coaching staff.

EDIT - Wondering now... which end got more benefit, the colleges or the players?  The players probably earned $5-$10 mil total by going #1 rather than slipping a few spots.  Did the colleges gain more than that?

[BitterJim]

The even more lucrative strategy is the one that LSU and Washington employed.  Find the player you want and get his father/uncle/relative a spot on your coaching staff.

EDIT - Wondering now... which end got more benefit, the colleges or the players?  The players probably earned $5-$10 mil total by going #1 rather than slipping a few spots.  Did the colleges gain more than that?

Between increased revenue this year and the possibility that having a "legit" player makes them seem like a more serious basketball school, I'd say yes

[clevelandceltic]

When has it been a lock that Ball was 2nd? There are some people who have him at 1 some have him at 3 or 4. Some have Smith infront of him. I think the general media has put forward that narrative but Im not really sure that Ball has ever been a lock.

[liam]

or play in Australia like Exum or in China like Mudiay, then you don't get exposed against your peers.

[clevelandceltic]

or play in Australia like Exum or in China like Mudiay, then you don't get exposed against your peers.

Those two situations are not the same. Mudiay played in the US for years. He just didnt go to college here. Exum strictly played in Australia.

[A Future of Stevens]

Fultz was also under the impression that Dejounte Murray and M. Chriss were coming back for another year. When both bolted for the draft, he didn't weasel out of his commitment and went to one of the least talented schools in D1.

Imagine a team with Fultz, Chriss and Murray? That team would have been a lot better. So it isn't necessarily accurate to say that Fultz purposely went to a crappy team. He was angling for at least a decent team.

[liam]

or play in Australia like Exum or in China like Mudiay, then you don't get exposed against your peers.

Those two situations are not the same. Mudiay played in the US for years. He just didnt go to college here. Exum strictly played in Australia.

Both didn't play in American College basketball.

[clevelandceltic]

or play in Australia like Exum or in China like Mudiay, then you don't get exposed against your peers.

Those two situations are not the same. Mudiay played in the US for years. He just didnt go to college here. Exum strictly played in Australia.

Both didn't play in American College basketball.

Yes but again their situations are different. Mudiay had eligibility questions surrounding his ability to even play on that level. Exum was like every other foreign player who didnt play in the US. The only difference is that he had a chance to come over for like 2 months to play for a college and decided not to.

All of these guys had been seen by NBA guys in international tourneys. If we draft strictly on what a player showed in college Brown would not be on this team right now and Im not finding many fans who would want to get rid of him.

[Denis998]

Both Simmons and Fultz had close relationships with the coaching staff. Simmons's godfather was on the coaching staff at LSU. Fultz was first ever recruitment to a big college school was from Washington. If anything it shows loyalty.

[spikelovetheCelts]

Fultz was also under the impression that Dejounte Murray and M. Chriss were coming back for another year. When both bolted for the draft, he didn't weasel out of his commitment and went to one of the least talented schools in D1.

Imagine a team with Fultz, Chriss and Murray? That team would have been a lot better. So it isn't necessarily accurate to say that Fultz purposely went to a crappy team. He was angling for at least a decent team.

Correct, He is man of character and will make a great Celtic. All the Top 6 look good to me. We are going to have another Stud.

[liam]

or play in Australia like Exum or in China like Mudiay, then you don't get exposed against your peers.

Those two situations are not the same. Mudiay played in the US for years. He just didnt go to college here. Exum strictly played in Australia.

Both didn't play in American College basketball.

Yes but again their situations are different. Mudiay had eligibility questions surrounding his ability to even play on that level. Exum was like every other foreign player who didnt play in the US. The only difference is that he had a chance to come over for like 2 months to play for a college and decided not to.

All of these guys had been seen by NBA guys in international tourneys. If we draft strictly on what a player showed in college Brown would not be on this team right now and Im not finding many fans who would want to get rid of him.

Yes, there situations were different.

[A Future of Stevens]

Fultz was also under the impression that Dejounte Murray and M. Chriss were coming back for another year. When both bolted for the draft, he didn't weasel out of his commitment and went to one of the least talented schools in D1.

Imagine a team with Fultz, Chriss and Murray? That team would have been a lot better. So it isn't necessarily accurate to say that Fultz purposely went to a crappy team. He was angling for at least a decent team.

Correct, He is man of character and will make a great Celtic. All the Top 6 look good to me. We are going to have another Stud.

That is what I am saying. Like its weird having a kid who is that skilled at offense at that young of an age, who has no personality red flags. Very stand up kid.

[KG Living Legend]

When has it been a lock that Ball was 2nd? There are some people who have him at 1 some have him at 3 or 4. Some have Smith infront of him. I think the general media has put forward that narrative but Im not really sure that Ball has ever been a lock.

 Drafted press is the most accurate. They have had ball all year at #2, they still do, and for a short time he was #1.

 He still may go #2, but I doubt it right now.