Will Marcus Smart ever shoot 40%? Part 3

[crimson_stallion]

Simple answer is I sure hope so,  because right now he's on track to be the worst-shooting guard ive seen earn 25+ minutes on an NBA team,  and if he can't move up from there he's got serious problems.

His shooting is so bad right now that he makes young Rajon Rondo look like a sharpshooter.

[td450]

The most important factor here is how long he can hold onto major minutes while he is still not shooting 40%. His best chance may be on another team.

For now, the unique things he does do is enough, because there is no one that has proven they can do more. When Jaylen Brown is 22, can you still give Marcus those minutes? We also know this team is poised to add considerably more talent in the next 18 months. He could just lose the intra-team competition for time.

Smart is still on track to evolve to be about as useful all-around as Ron Artest, who barely shot 40, barely 30 from 3, his first three years. Smart is possibly as special a defensive presence as Artest. Artest is the kind of defensive stud who can start for a championship team as its 4th or so best player overall. I think Smart will be that, too.

There is a huge difference between what Marcus has accomplished in his first 3 years on offense and what Artest did. By his 3rd year, Artest was clearly turning the corner and starting to produce as an offensive player.

Marcus Smart hasn't "barely shot 40, barely 30 from 3" in his first 3 years. Those types of numbers would be a major improvement for him. And even worse, there is zero evidence that he is improving.

[celtics2030]

so do we count that 3 down 40 ?

Take away the heaves but don't take away a 3 pointer down 40 to the scrubs of the bench ? 

[Ilikesports17]

so do we count that 3 down 40 ?

Take away the heaves but don't take away a 3 pointer down 40 to the scrubs of the bench ? 

degree of difficulty on that shot was really high.

Smart makes like 10% of those. If you want to discount those, his percentage goes up again.

[celtics2030]

so do we count that 3 down 40 ?

Take away the heaves but don't take away a 3 pointer down 40 to the scrubs of the bench ? 

degree of difficulty on that shot was really high.

Smart makes like 10% of those. If you want to discount those, his percentage goes up again.

True, i did not see

but even tough shots become easy when nothing is on the line. Nonetheless it was a joke :

[inverselock]

Smart's 1st instinct is to flop instead of shooting the ball when the game is on the line.   LOL.

[Dino Pitino]

The most important factor here is how long he can hold onto major minutes while he is still not shooting 40%. His best chance may be on another team.

For now, the unique things he does do is enough, because there is no one that has proven they can do more. When Jaylen Brown is 22, can you still give Marcus those minutes? We also know this team is poised to add considerably more talent in the next 18 months. He could just lose the intra-team competition for time.

Smart is still on track to evolve to be about as useful all-around as Ron Artest, who barely shot 40, barely 30 from 3, his first three years. Smart is possibly as special a defensive presence as Artest. Artest is the kind of defensive stud who can start for a championship team as its 4th or so best player overall. I think Smart will be that, too.

There is a huge difference between what Marcus has accomplished in his first 3 years on offense and what Artest did. By his 3rd year, Artest was clearly turning the corner and starting to produce as an offensive player.

Marcus Smart hasn't "barely shot 40, barely 30 from 3" in his first 3 years. Those types of numbers would be a major improvement for him. And even worse, there is zero evidence that he is improving.

One difference is that Artest was more of a SF wing and Smart is more of a G wing. Artest's percentages are slightly better, but there's a slightly higher baseline percentage expected out of a SF, no?. Their TS% in the first three years is similar, anyway, in the 48-49% range except for Smart last season.

[guava_wrench]

The most important factor here is how long he can hold onto major minutes while he is still not shooting 40%. His best chance may be on another team.

For now, the unique things he does do is enough, because there is no one that has proven they can do more. When Jaylen Brown is 22, can you still give Marcus those minutes? We also know this team is poised to add considerably more talent in the next 18 months. He could just lose the intra-team competition for time.

Smart is still on track to evolve to be about as useful all-around as Ron Artest, who barely shot 40, barely 30 from 3, his first three years. Smart is possibly as special a defensive presence as Artest. Artest is the kind of defensive stud who can start for a championship team as its 4th or so best player overall. I think Smart will be that, too.

There is a huge difference between what Marcus has accomplished in his first 3 years on offense and what Artest did. By his 3rd year, Artest was clearly turning the corner and starting to produce as an offensive player.

Marcus Smart hasn't "barely shot 40, barely 30 from 3" in his first 3 years. Those types of numbers would be a major improvement for him. And even worse, there is zero evidence that he is improving.

One difference is that Artest was more of a SF wing and Smart is more of a G wing. Artest's percentages are slightly better, but there's a slightly higher baseline percentage expected out of a SF, no?. Their TS% in the first three years is similar, anyway, in the 48-49% range except for Smart last season.

How old was Artest in his 3rd season?

[nickagneta]

The most important factor here is how long he can hold onto major minutes while he is still not shooting 40%. His best chance may be on another team.

For now, the unique things he does do is enough, because there is no one that has proven they can do more. When Jaylen Brown is 22, can you still give Marcus those minutes? We also know this team is poised to add considerably more talent in the next 18 months. He could just lose the intra-team competition for time.

Smart is still on track to evolve to be about as useful all-around as Ron Artest, who barely shot 40, barely 30 from 3, his first three years. Smart is possibly as special a defensive presence as Artest. Artest is the kind of defensive stud who can start for a championship team as its 4th or so best player overall. I think Smart will be that, too.

There is a huge difference between what Marcus has accomplished in his first 3 years on offense and what Artest did. By his 3rd year, Artest was clearly turning the corner and starting to produce as an offensive player.

Marcus Smart hasn't "barely shot 40, barely 30 from 3" in his first 3 years. Those types of numbers would be a major improvement for him. And even worse, there is zero evidence that he is improving.

One difference is that Artest was more of a SF wing and Smart is more of a G wing. Artest's percentages are slightly better, but there's a slightly higher baseline percentage expected out of a SF, no?. Their TS% in the first three years is similar, anyway, in the 48-49% range except for Smart last season.

How old was Artest in his 3rd season?

22, the same age as Smart

Here is their player comparison for their first 3 years.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=1&player_id1_hint=Marcus+Smart&player_id1_select=Marcus+Smart&y1=2017&player_id1=smartma01&player_id2_hint=Metta+World+Peace&player_id2_select=Metta+World+Peace&y2=2002&player_id2=artesro01

Artest was a better offensive player but not by a whole lot and he was a bad offensive player so I could see where he could be a good comparison for Smart.

[CelticsJG]

Ron Artest was getting better each of his three seasons. Smart is regressing. Not a good comparison.

[Dino Pitino]

If Smart starts shooting around 33-35% from three and closer to or above 40 overall while keeping his FT% at or above 80, all while ably taking a share of point guard duties, then he becomes a significant asset on offense, right? I think that'll happen as soon as next season. Maybe sooner, might even see him raise his game like that in the small sample of a playoffs series or two. If you see the Celtics winning a series or two, can you imagine them doing it without Smart basically winning a couple games with gamechanging clutchness? I can't.

[celtics2030]

If Smart starts shooting around 33-35% from three and closer to or above 40 overall while keeping his FT% at or above 80, all while ably taking a share of point guard duties, then he becomes a significant asset on offense, right? I think that'll happen as soon as next season. Maybe sooner, might even see him raise his game like that in the small sample of a playoffs series or two. If you see the Celtics winning a series or two, can you imagine them doing it without Smart basically winning a couple games with gamechanging clutchness? I can't.

And lol?

You can say that about anybody. Although Smart has shown no improvement in the shooting or FG % areas

He has improved FT% but shooting wise he is horrible

[Dino Pitino]

His shot sure looks wet tonight.

And one of his misses was a desperation runner, lol.

[Ilikesports17]

His shot sure looks wet tonight.

And one of his misses was a desperation runner, lol.

9 threes is waaaay to much tho

[celtics2030]

His shot sure looks wet tonight.

And one of his misses was a desperation runner, lol.

Dude, just admit you are a homer lol

Unreal, one game in the span of what a month and a half lapse

I am not trying to be a douch at all, it's just that how can we have a back and forth basketball discussion when one game is what you bring forth to the discussion

still he took wht 10 threes?

so we need him to get lucky and hit from deep

the guy cant get to the hole at all, and it will hinder him, he cant finish, he cant drive


what he lacks in those is what all love, that he tries hard and plays elite defense

but it will keep him where he is, as a super role player

not as a starting all star, which is what you guys act like he is after he does this